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Character Personalities; Why so serious?
Topic Started: Nov 4 2008, 06:34 AM (3,756 Views)
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Seraphil
Nov 16 2008, 07:20 AM
...Ina lost an actual deep rivalry(Kunoichi. Yeah, surprise surprise, the one SW girl I don't like is involved in one of the things I liked about my favorite gal.) I'm not really up to calling her relation with Ginchiyo much of a rivalry.
I'd agree with this. It's much more idol-worship & identity politics in practice (Ginchiyo's existence re-affirms that it's alright for Ina to be who she is, even if they became enemies) more than anything (I'd go as far as to call it a crush, but that's just me).
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I see nothing wrong with Gracia in SW2XL so I guess I'm with Seraphil?

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That's biased as well. I think some are better in SW2 than in SW1. It's all a matter of opinion.

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gross. the fact that EVERYONE's refering to him as MAGO is SCARY


Mago! :rolleyes: Seriously, how's that gross? ;)
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I see nothing wrong with Gracia in SW2XL so I guess I'm with Seraphil?


It's all a matter of opinion like you said. Some like her. Some hate her. Some don't care? She had potential but just got annoying to me, but then again I am bias and very unforgiving to the female characters in media. Sorry, I think I have a beta fish syndrome. A guy could be doing the same things as her and chances are I'd find him less annoying, only because he's, well, a he.

I'm bias. Totally, I admit it. Everyone is.
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Nov 17 2008, 10:27 PM
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gross. the fact that EVERYONE's refering to him as MAGO is SCARY


Mago! :rolleyes: Seriously, how's that gross? ;)
I think he means the "threesome" is gross... *shivers*
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Mago is awsome!! ^_^ Honda was so serious he needed to lighten up a bit. I wish Hanzo would say more than just "darkness, darkness, darkness" Imagine howhis generation family feels when they play this game.
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From what I think, Kojiro's personality does not match him at all.
I thought that he is supposed to be kind of arrogant, strong and impatient but not sadistic or girlish.
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Nov 19 2008, 09:29 AM
From what I think, Kojiro's personality does not match him at all.
I thought that he is supposed to be kind of arrogant, strong and impatient but not sadistic or girlish.
And since when did Koei go with accuracy? XD

I wouldn't say he's girlish. There's probably a reason for his white facepaint and bright red lipstick, and if anything, while he does look a little... feminine... he's still one scary-as-sin character. If anything, make him even more arrogant, because he's already strong and impatient.

I won't lie, when I first saw him, I screamed 'HOLY MOTHER OF JEEBUS IT'S A FRUITY JIANG WEI!!!'
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The best word to describe Kojiro's physical appearance is "bishi". I can't think of any other words. He only bothered me because of his fetish to butcher people and "feed his sword" (see WO2). His ending made it seem that he was in a daze, and that killing Musashi caused reality to come rushing in and hit the SOB with the hard truth: Musashi's not coming back.

Hanzo could probably tone down on the "darkness and shadow" repetition, as I'm sure there's no way in hell that ninjas continuously talk like that >_>

I like Musashi's determination to prove that swords can also protect people, not just kill them in gruesome ways (*points to Kojiro*).
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Nov 20 2008, 01:56 AM
Hanzo could probably tone down on the "darkness and shadow" repetition, as I'm sure there's no way in hell that ninjas continuously talk like that >_>
Or he could revert back to his SW1 persona, that was epic in my opinion. Combined with an awesome VA he was awesome. His lines and everything basically.
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I dunno. Make Musashi less of an arrogant bumhole and I'll be content. He didn't get so bad in SW2, so maybe it's just a WO2 thing. Ugh... reasons NOT to play with Musashi as your ally is to be constantly reminded that he's the 'BEST'.

Hence why I allowed him to DIE. HA HA HA. Take that, you arrogant jerk. It's not cute, it's not funny, it's ANNOYING. At least Masamune had reality hit him a few times with the 'you're not so perfect' stick a few times. Apparently Musashi is just too good to be hit by that...
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Hanzo in SW1 would definitely be great to see in SW3, as that persona totally kicks the SW2's ass.

Maybe if Masamune were a little older, he wouldn't annoy me as much.
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Nov 20 2008, 01:56 AM
The best word to describe Kojiro's physical appearance is "bishi". I can't think of any other words. He only bothered me because of his fetish to butcher people and "feed his sword" (see WO2). His ending made it seem that he was in a daze, and that killing Musashi caused reality to come rushing in and hit the SOB with the hard truth: Musashi's not coming back.

Hanzo could probably tone down on the "darkness and shadow" repetition, as I'm sure there's no way in hell that ninjas continuously talk like that >_>

I like Musashi's determination to prove that swords can also protect people, not just kill them in gruesome ways (*points to Kojiro*).
Kojiro needs to be a bit more... Serious... He's personality is a bit... creepy <_<
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While I can say I actually like the look of Kojirou, as well as his voice in Japanese.

I hate his personality. I don't care if he's obsessed with killing Musashi or being better than Musashi. What bothers me is that he's shown as being a crazed psycho about it. I love eccentric characters, but he's just a little too much.
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Yes all characters definately need to tone down on their stereotyping, they should be more serious like in Sw1, less fantasy, more authentic.
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I don't mind about anyone's personality, save for one. Kanetsugu Naoe's constant babbling about Honour and Justice makes me puke (Just like Ma Chao). Although, he is one of my most favorite characters :/

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I want to see Keiji appear with his strong Tiger personality that he had at SW1.
Tadakatsu with his SW1 personality as well.
Nobunaga with his Evil Demon Lord personality that he had at SW1.
Hanzo also with his silent SW1 personality.
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i liked oichi in sw2 more than sw1, i thought she suffered more from the fighting between nagamassa and nobunaga. i wouldnt have mind to see her fight more to stop them both but the fact that she loses nagamassa at the end of her story mode made it feel more emotional and i think its what made her story one of the better storys.

nohs character in sw2 isnt that great, but i didnt really like her sw1 story character much either. i know a lot of people will dislike me saying this but she lacked emotion. she was good for a side character but for a main story person their just wasnt enough conflict within herself for me

now i liked kanetsuga, but they overdid the honor talk. scenes like the one when he finds out about mitsunaris death was great and showed him as a person affected by all the conflict.

for the most part i think they should tone down the over use of words cause that just downplays what can be done with all the charcters.
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I really liked Kojirou character. He seemed to me to be the only really malicious character, even worse than Nobunaga and Kotaru. He really just wanted to slaughter people and that made him unique and a very nice binary character to Musashi, in my opinion.

I am not exactly sure what it is but the only real character I have a problem with was Tokugawa. I can not place my finger on it. Every time I fight a level with him in it it just drives me nuts. I dont know, maybe he is just too bland.
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Maybe it's bad translation to English, but Shibata Katsuie's and Chousokabe Motochika's constaint babbling about "History this" "History that" was kinda dumb, its like they are trying to break 4th wall or something lol...

Overall, I think the SW roster has more variety in terms of character personality in comparison to the DW roster but it would be nice if there was more character development in the Story Mode, some characters just stay completely static... but maybe i'm just asking too much :P
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i agree with you. i think the characters need more development in their storys. that would probably be one of my biggest complaints even in sw1 their was not enogh development except for the xl characters
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Nov 19 2008, 04:30 PM
I won't lie, when I first saw him, I screamed 'HOLY MOTHER OF JEEBUS IT'S A FRUITY JIANG WEI!!!'
When I first saw him, I said "Wow, this guy makes Zhang He look straight!"

Of course, that was before DW 6 came out....
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My hats off to Koei, the problems I had in Samurai Warriors 1, they fixed in 2. The problems I had in 2, they appear to be fixing in 3!

Oichi was always a character whose personality just never completely clicked with me. Maybe it was her youth (ESPECIALLY in SW1) or that ball and cup weapon, but SW3 has made her seem more like a young lady than 1 or 2 did in my opinion.

Yoshimoto Imagawa's character is of course a bit demeaning, but he's QUITE serious in SW2XL Okehazama when you start fighting him man to man. His comments about how it wasn't just kemari that allowed him to rise to leadership in the Imagawa clan and the others about a miserable death and tradition made up for his goofy appearance in my view.

The one thing I can think of right now that always bugged me was Yoshihiro Shimazu in his role as :Crazy Old Risk Taker. If I remember correctly, didn't the Shimazu clan keep their soldiers a good distance away from the main conflicts of Sekigahara because of a disagreement in tactics with Mitsunari Ishida?

But that's the beauty of Samurai Warriors. The way the characters are portrayed is memorable and interesting. That's why I love it so.
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You are mistaken on the Shimazu. They were well-known for taking risks(like raids on the enemy camp with few men) in battle. One of the most important events of the Sekigahara battle was the Shimazu army's charge through the center of the Eastern army's formation with only a couple thousand troops in order to both reach and intimidate Ieyasu and to escape, which involved squads of troops lingering behind to stall the enemy as the other survivors escaped. Ultimately only a few hundred Shimazu men escaped alive, including Yoshihiro, thanks to this huge gamble.
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You are mistaken on the Shimazu. They were well-known for taking risks(like raids on the enemy camp with few men) in battle. One of the most important events of the Sekigahara battle was the Shimazu army's charge through the center of the Eastern army's formation with only a couple thousand troops in order to both reach and intimidate Ieyasu and to escape, which involved squads of troops lingering behind to stall the enemy as the other survivors escaped. Ultimately only a few hundred Shimazu men escaped alive, including Yoshihiro, thanks to this huge gamble.


I see what you are saying, and I agree that that's a big part of what the Shimazu were, but there have been plenty of gambles in the Sengoku Period. Nobunaga's Gamble against the Imagawa at Okehazama for instance. I would probably call Nobunaga a risk taker too. Fuuma is a risk taker for his raid on the Takeda encampment, The Hojo were risk takers for holding their castle even in the face of overwhelming opposition. Do you see what I'm trying to say?

I always pictured him as a guy that had no qualms about doing whatever it took to win, even if the battle wasn't honorable or the tactics were deceitful, he'd do what it would take to be on top. And to Koei's credit, they did that to an extent that made me happy with him.
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Kotaro raiding the Takeda camp? Where did you get that thing?

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