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Is it too much?
Hell Yes	22 (61.1%)
No Way	3 (8.3%)
Doesn’t Bother Me	11 (30.6%)
Total Votes: 36

Work Load; Too much?
Topic Started: Nov 5 2008, 02:00 PM (993 Views)
zenkokuku	Nov 5 2008, 02:00 PM Post #1
Posts: 4,284 Group: Members Member #7,714 Joined: June 2, 2007	Sure, there are so many things to do in the game, and it’s a great asset to have if you want your favorite warriors’ title to last long. But don’t you think it’s a bit too much? Yes, I’m referring to the infamous, titanic Dramatic Stage 27. You’d most likely to unlock/complete what’s most on offer in the game before you could even get close to fulfill the requirements for opening that stage. This is not an RPG game; players shouldn’t have to “grind”, or Itsukushima all the way to glory. I think WO2 would’ve been much better off if the requirements to unlock stages shouldn’t be too much of a hassle, because what’s the point of playing a stage you only unlocked but to have most of your roster nearly all maxed out? I think it would’ve been much better if they left those hardcore players who wanted to max out everything alone, rather than making such requirement to unlock a stage for those who just want to complete the game and get to know the full story behind Story + Dramatic modes. I’ve already seen many quitters, and those who even literally memorized who they have to kill on that stage because that’s the only sufficient method to reach the goal in the shortest time. But that’s just ridiculous, and I feel for the quitters, because I’m one of them. I’m halfway through in unlocking everyone’s’ abilities and I have not come close to unlocking what’s a quarter of the requirement for that stage.



LoW	Nov 5 2008, 02:24 PM Post #2
This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore.... Posts: 4,418 Group: Members Member #749 Joined: February 21, 2006 Gender Male	I think Orochi X was meant to be a "reward" for players who play the game actively for a long time. Nowhere it's stated that you need to unlock all stages and characters as soon as possible. Only perfectionist (me) or those who simply don't have any patience try to get Orochi X as soon as they can. When you really think about it, this is the second time when KOEI rewards players who have bothered to max out characters (first time was in DW3XL where you had to get 99999 points for all characters in order to unlock SSX's DT costume).
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Mr.Honda	Nov 5 2008, 05:26 PM Post #3
Actively Retired Posts: 4,070 Group: Members Member #7,393 Joined: May 17, 2007 Gender Male	In agreement with LoW on this one. What reward did we get for maxing out all characters in WO? --> Nothing Once I had completed everything in WO, I really couldn't help but feel "That's it?" I personally feel though that Dream Stage 27 should have been more of a reward. The characters involved & the stage plot seems to be pretty dull from what I have heard. I would say that the work needed to get 2,730 Proficiency is not worth it just to unlock this stage. I think having Shin Orochi available at the end after everything is done is a nice reward though. Many feel that the reward is hardly worth the effort, but I beg to differ. Its a much better reward than the one granted for finally getting Lu Bu's PI in WO
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PhoenixNega	Nov 5 2008, 06:04 PM Post #4
Pang Shiyuan's disciple Posts: 239 Group: Members Member #14,903 Joined: April 20, 2008	No one says that you have to get Orochi X, nor that you have to grind at Itsukushima. Stage 27 and Orochi X are rewards for playing the game and doing some effort in getting used to several different characters. I don't really mind it that it takes a while to get them: i'd rather take my time to unlock something good (Orochi X), than to do play several stages and get something stupid (PI's)
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Xalfrea	Nov 6 2008, 12:10 AM Post #5
Organization XIII's Number XV Posts: 2,692 Group: Junior Moderators Member #7,921 Joined: June 13, 2007 Gender Male	To the average player of WO2, Dream 27 and Orochi X are just a bunch of afterthoughts. They might as well have a fun time playing the game. To the hardcore players, again, its their own decision. I mean there is no law or anything that we NEED to unlock them, its just our love for the game that makes us want to do it. I think that's what Koei intended. IMO though, they should have switched the requirements of Dream 27 and Dream 8. If it were Dream 8 at the end of all the grinding it would have been much more satisfying.
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RedFoxxie	Nov 6 2008, 01:26 AM Post #6
Officer Posts: 97 Group: Members Member #19,136 Joined: October 18, 2008 Gender Male	If you grind for the Orochi X and Dream stage requirements on 1 stage, yes, it will make your eyes bleed. If you just play the game and enjoy it to the fullest until one day you notice "Oh gee I unlocked it" , it's worth it =p If there is such a thing as a casual perfectionist, yes, it would be a total pain to 100% complete this game.
	~ Hideyoshi Hashiba: Everything is a dream.. Within a dream. (SW1) ~


LegendarySeaDragon	Nov 6 2008, 03:01 AM Post #7
NOT the Serpent King xD Posts: 357 Group: Members Member #19,111 Joined: October 17, 2008 Gender Male	Unlocking Shin Orochi will grant the greatest feeling of accomplishment in the world. Sure, it takes a large amount of work (something I misunderstood in the beginning) and lots of time to cash in, but once you finished, it's as if KOEI is saying, "Congratulations on your efforts and determination. This is for you." And they hand over to you the most powerful character in the game. But you don't have to automatically maxing out Shin Orochi once he's unlocked (some players might, but I have nothing against that). Once you finish, take a break. You deserve it.
	Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi.


Kratos Aurion	Nov 6 2008, 03:10 AM Post #8
MOAR Posts: 2,390 Group: Members Member #8,741 Joined: July 24, 2007 Gender Male	I only just finished the story modes today (having done Orochi's, SW, and Wei's modes yesterday) and have about 2/3 of the dream stages unlocked. So what are the requirements for 27?
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LegendarySeaDragon	Nov 6 2008, 03:13 AM Post #9
NOT the Serpent King xD Posts: 357 Group: Members Member #19,111 Joined: October 17, 2008 Gender Male	To unlock Dream Mode stage 27, all of your character profiencies must total 2,730 or higher. It is a pretty big number.
	Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi.


AnthonyHV	Nov 6 2008, 03:57 AM Post #10
Elite Soldier Posts: 57 Group: Members Member #17,987 Joined: September 2, 2008	It's no biggy to me really. Sure, if you're a perfectionist, its a bummer, but then again, try to have fun as you do it. You get to fight with many characters (if you haven't played certain ones already), and you learn and experience different fighting styles. As many others here pointed out, it's all about having fun, right? In the end, you bought the game. And for what reason? I'm sure that most would say 'to have fun', and that's all that matters If you do happen to do that extra hard work in unlocking Orochi X, then you got your money's worth.
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Tesouken	Nov 6 2008, 05:42 AM Post #11
Han's Unifier Posts: 1,131 Group: Banned Member #9,993 Joined: September 28, 2007	LoW Nov 5 2008, 02:24 PM I think Orochi X was meant to be a "reward" for players who play the game actively for a long time. Nowhere it's stated that you need to unlock all stages and characters as soon as possible. Only perfectionist (me) or those who simply don't have any patience try to get Orochi X as soon as they can. When you really think about it, this is the second time when KOEI rewards players who have bothered to max out characters (first time was in DW3XL where you had to get 99999 points for all characters in order to unlock SSX's DT costume). What the hell, i didnt know that.. i even have DW3 xl.. wich DW was it you could get lu bu's awesome rotk costume, i really loved that one and the music too, was on chibi and he had his own grey army. Man that was really cool and challenging too... unlike anything in wo2 :l I agree wth OP btw. Oh and @ legendaryseadragon Quote: And they hand over to you the most powerful character in the game. You are kidding right? How much more powerfull can you be when half of all chars maxed 1 hit kill everything with a tap on the square button in a radius of 10 feet. Why didnt koei just add a nuke on wheels to the game, so you could win the stage from the spawning point and be done with it. would save you running around 30 seconds. Edited by Tesouken, Nov 6 2008, 05:45 AM.



Jorgh	Nov 6 2008, 05:57 AM Post #12
Beecha-tard~<3 Posts: 359 Group: Members Member #13,972 Joined: March 13, 2008 Gender Male	I'm always obsessive about unlocking characters as soon as possible in these games. So I found the requirements for Shin Orochi to be a real pain in the ass. Stages that required you to max out certain characters annoyed me. After I max a character I usually don't play as them very much so the characters I had to rush to max out ended up gettin tossed aside earlier than I would have liked. Then you get a stage that only these maxed characters will be able to play on. Blarg. I suppose I would have found it less annoying if there was some sort of free mode for dream stages.
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LegendarySeaDragon	Nov 6 2008, 06:09 AM Post #13
NOT the Serpent King xD Posts: 357 Group: Members Member #19,111 Joined: October 17, 2008 Gender Male	Tesouken Nov 6 2008, 05:42 AM LoW Nov 5 2008, 02:24 PM I think Orochi X was meant to be a "reward" for players who play the game actively for a long time. Nowhere it's stated that you need to unlock all stages and characters as soon as possible. Only perfectionist (me) or those who simply don't have any patience try to get Orochi X as soon as they can. When you really think about it, this is the second time when KOEI rewards players who have bothered to max out characters (first time was in DW3XL where you had to get 99999 points for all characters in order to unlock SSX's DT costume). What the hell, i didnt know that.. i even have DW3 xl.. wich DW was it you could get lu bu's awesome rotk costume, i really loved that one and the music too, was on chibi and he had his own grey army. Man that was really cool and challenging too... unlike anything in wo2 :l I agree wth OP btw. Oh and @ legendaryseadragon Quote: And they hand over to you the most powerful character in the game. You are kidding right? How much more powerfull can you be when half of all chars maxed 1 hit kill everything with a tap on the square button in a radius of 10 feet. Why didnt koei just add a nuke on wheels to the game, so you could win the stage from the spawning point and be done with it. would save you running around 30 seconds. Because a level 99 Shin Orochi with 50 profiency is the equivalent of a nuke on wheels xD Yes, it is true that all other maxed out characters can simply one-hit kill with one press of the square button, but it seems that people would get more joy of it as a super snake demon with a big huge scythe in his hand.
	Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi.


Lubu_Freak	Nov 6 2008, 03:06 PM Post #14
The Mightiest Warrior Posts: 417 Group: Members Member #15,542 Joined: May 17, 2008 Gender Male	I totally agree with redfoxxie. You should just have fun enjoying the game,and after a while you'll notice you unlocked stage 27. Although evryone who plays is not a perfectionist, it should still be easy to unlock the stage.Its very annoying knowing that you have to be a perfectionist to get Orochi X.
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LegendarySeaDragon	Nov 7 2008, 01:41 AM Post #15
NOT the Serpent King xD Posts: 357 Group: Members Member #19,111 Joined: October 17, 2008 Gender Male	But not all people who want to unlock Shin Orochi are perfectionists...
	Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi.


Lubu_Freak	Nov 7 2008, 02:09 AM Post #16
The Mightiest Warrior Posts: 417 Group: Members Member #15,542 Joined: May 17, 2008 Gender Male	I know, thats why you shouldn;t have to be one to get him.
	Thanks to Jiahe for the Sig and Zekusama for the Avatar. My Family On page 5 My Orochi Clan Just ask to join or pm me.


LegendarySeaDragon	Nov 7 2008, 02:18 AM Post #17
NOT the Serpent King xD Posts: 357 Group: Members Member #19,111 Joined: October 17, 2008 Gender Male	All the vids on YouTube about Shin Orochi's gameplay got me all pumped up; I'm working this hard to see if the hype was worth it.
	Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi.


Xalfrea	Nov 7 2008, 02:26 AM Post #18
Organization XIII's Number XV Posts: 2,692 Group: Junior Moderators Member #7,921 Joined: June 13, 2007 Gender Male	When I saw JAP vids of Orochi X, I was intrigued. When I first encounted Orochi X myself and was killed, I was pumped up. When I finally got around to playing as Orochi X, I was euphoric.
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LegendarySeaDragon	Nov 7 2008, 02:40 AM Post #19
NOT the Serpent King xD Posts: 357 Group: Members Member #19,111 Joined: October 17, 2008 Gender Male	Out of all the times I've face him, Shin Orochi has never killed me once... I wonder what I did right..?
	Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi.


Ling Xing Shuo	Nov 7 2008, 02:44 AM Post #20
The Dragon Drowns Again! Posts: 429 Group: Members Member #12,320 Joined: December 30, 2007 Gender Male	The work is really alot!!!It pains me to do all the dramatic mode stages and the Proficiency grinding!!IT HURTS!!
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Lubu_Freak	Nov 7 2008, 03:06 AM Post #21
The Mightiest Warrior Posts: 417 Group: Members Member #15,542 Joined: May 17, 2008 Gender Male	My fingers hurt soooo bad from grinding. And i'm only up to 1567
	Thanks to Jiahe for the Sig and Zekusama for the Avatar. My Family On page 5 My Orochi Clan Just ask to join or pm me.


Ling Xing Shuo	Nov 7 2008, 03:09 AM Post #22
The Dragon Drowns Again! Posts: 429 Group: Members Member #12,320 Joined: December 30, 2007 Gender Male	I Feel your pain too!I only have a few more characters left to do...
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Lubu_Freak	Nov 7 2008, 03:11 AM Post #23
The Mightiest Warrior Posts: 417 Group: Members Member #15,542 Joined: May 17, 2008 Gender Male	I think i'm gonna give up on it its just too hard, or have my cousin get him for me, She already has every character maxed out with max prof. Shes totally 100% done with the game
	Thanks to Jiahe for the Sig and Zekusama for the Avatar. My Family On page 5 My Orochi Clan Just ask to join or pm me.


LegendarySeaDragon	Nov 7 2008, 06:04 AM Post #24
NOT the Serpent King xD Posts: 357 Group: Members Member #19,111 Joined: October 17, 2008 Gender Male	She even beat the Story Mode and Dream Mode on all difficulties? I think that part would take the longest in my opinion, longer than the Shin Orochi unlocking.
	Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi.


Encerta	Nov 7 2008, 06:11 AM Post #25
Charismatic General Who Conquers the Hearts Posts: 196 Group: Members Member #16,064 Joined: June 10, 2008 Gender Male	Got this game with minimal informations. It is only through this topic that I understood there's so much work needed to unlock Orochi X and that dream stage which I knew not. cough No matter, I would actually believe I am striving for a 100% here, similarly to what I did for WO1.
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