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What characters, and stages do you think will be cut?; Only if anything is cut
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I don't think they'll cut anything. Its for the Wii right now. After Katana, they would be wise to not cut anything but instead add new stuff
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Nene should get a appearance and weapon change, no Kunoichi Nene is in the history books. :P Maybe they should give her a gun or spear.
So? There either wasn't a warlord with a light saber or a nobleman from Suruga who fought with a katana and kemari >_>. There's really no need to change character's appearance or weapons just because they don't match with the history. Besides, there's nothing wrong with Hideyoshi having a silly and caring kunoichi as his wife. Matches Hideyoshi's personality if you ask me.

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Hey, that doesn't matter that Yoshitsune has a light saber. ITS WARRIORS OROCHI, anything can happen. many things can be created in that time. DuH! :XD :XD And umm, the kemari thing is acceptable because he is known for kemari, and he was a strong warlord so a kemari ball and a sword is okay. And NeNe, come on, she is NOT a kunoichi, there are better picks for a kunoichi then her. Like one of the Sanada Kunoichi, or Chiyome. And she doesn't have to match Hideyoshi's personality.
I was referring to Nobunaga when I mentioned the light saber.

My point still stands. Weapons I listed are just as silly as Nene being a kunoichi. Plus, if you can deal with other characters who don't match their historical version (Nagamasa, Gracia, Toshiie, Shingen, Hanzo etc.), then I don't understand why Nene's such a problem for you.

In my opinion she should match Hideyoshi's personality. Why not? No and Oichi are also much like their husbands so Nene also deserves someone who is like her.
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Nene should get a appearance and weapon change, no Kunoichi Nene is in the history books. :P Maybe they should give her a gun or spear.
So? There either wasn't a warlord with a light saber or a nobleman from Suruga who fought with a katana and kemari >_>. There's really no need to change character's appearance or weapons just because they don't match with the history. Besides, there's nothing wrong with Hideyoshi having a silly and caring kunoichi as his wife. Matches Hideyoshi's personality if you ask me.

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Hey, that doesn't matter that Yoshitsune has a light saber. ITS WARRIORS OROCHI, anything can happen. many things can be created in that time. DuH! :XD :XD And umm, the kemari thing is acceptable because he is known for kemari, and he was a strong warlord so a kemari ball and a sword is okay. And NeNe, come on, she is NOT a kunoichi, there are better picks for a kunoichi then her. Like one of the Sanada Kunoichi, or Chiyome. And she doesn't have to match Hideyoshi's personality.
I was referring to Nobunaga when I mentioned the light saber.

My point still stands. Weapons I listed are just as silly as Nene being a kunoichi. Plus, if you can deal with other characters who don't match their historical version (Nagamasa, Gracia, Toshiie, Shingen, Hanzo etc.), then I don't understand why Nene's such a problem for you.

In my opinion she should match Hideyoshi's personality. Why not? No and Oichi are also much like their husbands so Nene also deserves someone who is like her.
Umm then that light saber your talking about, which is a ridiculous thing that your calling his weapon. Umm well the Aura that is surrounding his weapon is reasonable because he was known as the "Demon King" and having that dark looking aura surrounding his weapon is just adding on to the Demon King Image. And Nene is just ridiculous to me. They should just change her kunoichi image, like i said THERE ARE DIFFERENT KUNOICHI THAT CAN BE ADDED! NENE ISNT EVEN A KUNOICHI
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Nene should get a appearance and weapon change, no Kunoichi Nene is in the history books. :P Maybe they should give her a gun or spear.
So? There either wasn't a warlord with a light saber or a nobleman from Suruga who fought with a katana and kemari >_>. There's really no need to change character's appearance or weapons just because they don't match with the history. Besides, there's nothing wrong with Hideyoshi having a silly and caring kunoichi as his wife. Matches Hideyoshi's personality if you ask me.

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Hey, that doesn't matter that Yoshitsune has a light saber. ITS WARRIORS OROCHI, anything can happen. many things can be created in that time. DuH! :XD :XD And umm, the kemari thing is acceptable because he is known for kemari, and he was a strong warlord so a kemari ball and a sword is okay. And NeNe, come on, she is NOT a kunoichi, there are better picks for a kunoichi then her. Like one of the Sanada Kunoichi, or Chiyome. And she doesn't have to match Hideyoshi's personality.
I was referring to Nobunaga when I mentioned the light saber.

My point still stands. Weapons I listed are just as silly as Nene being a kunoichi. Plus, if you can deal with other characters who don't match their historical version (Nagamasa, Gracia, Toshiie, Shingen, Hanzo etc.), then I don't understand why Nene's such a problem for you.

In my opinion she should match Hideyoshi's personality. Why not? No and Oichi are also much like their husbands so Nene also deserves someone who is like her.
Umm then that light saber your talking about, which is a ridiculous thing that your calling his weapon. Umm well the Aura that is surrounding his weapon is reasonable because he was known as the "Demon King" and having that dark looking aura surrounding his weapon is just adding on to the Demon King Image. And Nene is just ridiculous to me. They should just change her kunoichi image, like i said THERE ARE DIFFERENT KUNOICHI THAT CAN BE ADDED! NENE ISNT EVEN A KUNOICHI
Totally agree. Kunoichi was replaced by Nene, because "she's not a historical person" - as a statement. And Nene was added?! As kunoichi. That's hillarious. The representative of Sanada Ten Braves was replaced by... Toyotomis' wife? O_o" A kunoichi?! <_<
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Nene should get a appearance and weapon change, no Kunoichi Nene is in the history books. :P Maybe they should give her a gun or spear.
So? There either wasn't a warlord with a light saber or a nobleman from Suruga who fought with a katana and kemari >_>. There's really no need to change character's appearance or weapons just because they don't match with the history. Besides, there's nothing wrong with Hideyoshi having a silly and caring kunoichi as his wife. Matches Hideyoshi's personality if you ask me.

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Hey, that doesn't matter that Yoshitsune has a light saber. ITS WARRIORS OROCHI, anything can happen. many things can be created in that time. DuH! :XD :XD And umm, the kemari thing is acceptable because he is known for kemari, and he was a strong warlord so a kemari ball and a sword is okay. And NeNe, come on, she is NOT a kunoichi, there are better picks for a kunoichi then her. Like one of the Sanada Kunoichi, or Chiyome. And she doesn't have to match Hideyoshi's personality.
I was referring to Nobunaga when I mentioned the light saber.

My point still stands. Weapons I listed are just as silly as Nene being a kunoichi. Plus, if you can deal with other characters who don't match their historical version (Nagamasa, Gracia, Toshiie, Shingen, Hanzo etc.), then I don't understand why Nene's such a problem for you.

In my opinion she should match Hideyoshi's personality. Why not? No and Oichi are also much like their husbands so Nene also deserves someone who is like her.
Umm then that light saber your talking about, which is a ridiculous thing that your calling his weapon. Umm well the Aura that is surrounding his weapon is reasonable because he was known as the "Demon King" and having that dark looking aura surrounding his weapon is just adding on to the Demon King Image. And Nene is just ridiculous to me. They should just change her kunoichi image, like i said THERE ARE DIFFERENT KUNOICHI THAT CAN BE ADDED! NENE ISNT EVEN A KUNOICHI
I did not come up with light saber term. It was used byt SW fans long before WO2 or Yoshitsune were announced.

I've said this so many times already: So what if Nene wasn't a kunoichi? Nagamasa wasn't a knight, Yoshimoto wasn't a buffoon and I can assure you that Hosokawa Gracia wasn't a little sorcerer who helped Saika Magoichi to fight against Nobunaga.

Also, you're saying that Nene can't be kunoichi because there are other choices? So does that mean there shouldn't be other sworsdmen, spearmen or warlord characters in the future since we already have characters who represent them in the series?

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Totally agree. Kunoichi was replaced by Nene, because "she's not a historical person" - as a statement. And Nene was added?! As kunoichi. That's hillarious. The representative of Sanada Ten Braves was replaced by... Toyotomis' wife? O_o" A kunoichi?!

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like i said THERE ARE DIFFERENT KUNOICHI THAT CAN BE ADDED!
well, really only one historically well known kunoichi from the Sengoku. Lady Chiyome Mochizuki. and before someone goes all "Anayama Kosuke" on me, be aware that historically all ten of the Sanada Braves were men. whatever was presented in Kessen or you read on Wiki is fictional. if you are interested in learning more about said Lady, there's a thread in the history section relating to her, and i'll be happy to share my research if you ask by PM.
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Well, look who's there. If isn't Kunoichi ;) .
I just want Kunoichi to have a spot light in SW series, just like in SW1, to see her playing somewhat big role in Yukimura's/even' Shingen's campaign ^_^
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Well, look who's there. If isn't Kunoichi ;) .
I just want Kunoichi to have a spot light in SW series, just like in SW1, to see her playing somewhat big role in Yukimura's/even' Shingen's campaign ^_^
as much as i love Kuno, i seriously doubt that's going to happen. we already know that there's a new kunoichi-type character in SW3 from the first set of character shots, and there's a 90% chance that that will be Lady Chiyome, so why would KOEI include the first Kunoichi, when they will be adding the real kunoichi. they'd both serve Shingen, which would be sort of awkward considering that Lady Chiyome was the "mother of all kunoichi" and Kunoichi was (depending on what you believe) the embodiment of the Sanada Braves, or Lady Chiyome herself without the title. i'm certainly hoping that KOEI gives us a more serious female ninja this time around. i love Kuno and i've grown to like Nene, but c'mon.
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Well, look who's there. If isn't Kunoichi ;) .
I just want Kunoichi to have a spot light in SW series, just like in SW1, to see her playing somewhat big role in Yukimura's/even' Shingen's campaign ^_^
as much as i love Kuno, i seriously doubt that's going to happen. we already know that there's a new kunoichi-type character in SW3 from the first set of character shots, and there's a 90% chance that that will be Lady Chiyome, so why would KOEI include the first Kunoichi, when they will be adding the real kunoichi. they'd both serve Shingen, which would be sort of awkward considering that Lady Chiyome was the "mother of all kunoichi" and Kunoichi was (depending on what you believe) the embodiment of the Sanada Braves, or Lady Chiyome herself without the title. i'm certainly hoping that KOEI gives us a more serious female ninja this time around. i love Kuno and i've grown to like Nene, but c'mon.
Uhm... well, you know, I would be glad to see Chiyome in SW3 ^_^ 'Cause she's truly historical and also serving Takeda. I fully understand, that KOEI won't return "Kunoichi" from SW1, but stiil, I suppose, there will be some hints in SW3 about Kunoichi (like Kunoichi being Chiyome or something like this) ^_^
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I personally think the characters that are 100% safe are: Yukimura Sanada, Keiji Maeda, Nobunaga Oda, Mitsuhide Akechi, Oichi, Kenshin Uesugi, Kunoichi (confirmed on her US voice actors site), Shingen Takeda, Masamune Date, Magoichi Saika, No, Hanzo Hattori, Hideyoshi Totoyomi, Tadsakatsu Honda, Ina, Ieyasu Tokugawa, Mitsunari Ishida, Yoshihiro Shimazu, Nagamasa Azai, Sakon Shima, Ginchiyo Tachibana, Kanetsugu Naoe, Toshiie Maeda and Katsuie Shibata
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I hope Nene will get a slightly altered moveset and appearance to make her a bit more like a Priestess but still a kunoichi.
Gracia will probably be kept if her husband is added.
If Musashi or Sasaki are cut then they will both be (which I highly doubt because of fanbases)
Ranmaru Mori could easily be a very important character and be in many stages.
Yoshimoto is important but not for long so it depends if Koei can be bothered to add him.
and I wouldnt really miss Goemon since I find him annoying but him being cut from SW2 was most likely the reason for Okuni not having a story mode.
and Okuni probably wont be cut because she has a large fanbase and it would reduce Koei's sale figures and Koei know that.
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Well, look who's there. If isn't Kunoichi ;) .
I just want Kunoichi to have a spot light in SW series, just like in SW1, to see her playing somewhat big role in Yukimura's/even' Shingen's campaign ^_^
as much as i love Kuno, i seriously doubt that's going to happen. we already know that there's a new kunoichi-type character in SW3 from the first set of character shots, and there's a 90% chance that that will be Lady Chiyome, so why would KOEI include the first Kunoichi, when they will be adding the real kunoichi. they'd both serve Shingen, which would be sort of awkward considering that Lady Chiyome was the "mother of all kunoichi" and Kunoichi was (depending on what you believe) the embodiment of the Sanada Braves, or Lady Chiyome herself without the title. i'm certainly hoping that KOEI gives us a more serious female ninja this time around. i love Kuno and i've grown to like Nene, but c'mon.
Uhm... well, you know, I would be glad to see Chiyome in SW3 ^_^ 'Cause she's truly historical and also serving Takeda. I fully understand, that KOEI won't return "Kunoichi" from SW1, but stiil, I suppose, there will be some hints in SW3 about Kunoichi (like Kunoichi being Chiyome or something like this) ^_^
she hasnt been changed to Chiyome because on her US voice actor's online resume she calls her Kunoichi - Samurai Warriors 3

surely she would call her Chiyome
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Well, look who's there. If isn't Kunoichi ;) .
I just want Kunoichi to have a spot light in SW series, just like in SW1, to see her playing somewhat big role in Yukimura's/even' Shingen's campaign ^_^
as much as i love Kuno, i seriously doubt that's going to happen. we already know that there's a new kunoichi-type character in SW3 from the first set of character shots, and there's a 90% chance that that will be Lady Chiyome, so why would KOEI include the first Kunoichi, when they will be adding the real kunoichi. they'd both serve Shingen, which would be sort of awkward considering that Lady Chiyome was the "mother of all kunoichi" and Kunoichi was (depending on what you believe) the embodiment of the Sanada Braves, or Lady Chiyome herself without the title. i'm certainly hoping that KOEI gives us a more serious female ninja this time around. i love Kuno and i've grown to like Nene, but c'mon.
Uhm... well, you know, I would be glad to see Chiyome in SW3 ^_^ 'Cause she's truly historical and also serving Takeda. I fully understand, that KOEI won't return "Kunoichi" from SW1, but stiil, I suppose, there will be some hints in SW3 about Kunoichi (like Kunoichi being Chiyome or something like this) ^_^
she hasnt been changed to Chiyome because on her US voice actor's online resume she calls her Kunoichi - Samurai Warriors 3

surely she would call her Chiyome
they probably will call here chiyome.
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i'm fine with her baing called chiyome, i just wan't her to be like the old kunoichi(move set, weapon,) ad i wouldn't mind a personality change, not a big one, just make her smarter and confident! but not too serious :lol:
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the only person i could see being cut is okuni. i think goemon and the ninja danzo could possibly have better storys and better character interaction. but before i get yelled at for saying that. i think it would be a lot better to move her character and personality to another womans name that could provide more of a possible story mode. i really have nothing against her, i just feel their is more important people who could use the spot to make a better story
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i'm fine with her baing called chiyome, i just wan't her to be like the old kunoichi(move set, weapon,) ad i wouldn't mind a personality change, not a big one, just make her smarter and confident! but not too serious :lol:
If her personality will change with the name, it will be not that Kunoichi, we all know. I suppose KOEI won't give her personality a total makeover, it won't be that good for her fans ^_^
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i'm fine with her baing called chiyome, i just wan't her to be like the old kunoichi(move set, weapon,) ad i wouldn't mind a personality change, not a big one, just make her smarter and confident! but not too serious :lol:
If her personality will change with the name, it will be not that Kunoichi, we all know. I suppose KOEI won't give her personality a total makeover, it won't be that good for her fans ^_^
not a huge personality change just a small one

if they changed her a lot i agree, she wouldn't be kuno,

i just want her too be more confident, but not too serious, and smarter, she is a ninja, she has to be somewhat smarter
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Enough talk about Kunoichi, that's not on topic at all. There's another thread for that; this one is about if characters will be cut, not characters that are already cut.
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I think the characters that Might be cut are: Goemon, Okuni, Ranmaru, Sasaki, Musashi, Yoshimoto, Gracia and nene

Gracia
I really hope they don't remove Gracia because she is awesome! her Story in SW2XL was really... well you know -.-"" but if they add her husband she could have a really interesting story. And I would like it if her hubbie was really mean to her yet she stays really faithful to her... and maybe they could add a few chats between Mago and her as hints of her XL story

Goemon
well... because... well... because he's just goemon x3 if they do include him then I think they will give hima drastic change on either looks or personality or both

Okuni
I hope they don't remove her. for her story maybe it could be about her travelling Japan and seeing the war from the peasants point of view and befriending the warriors on her journey? I would like her to be either more dark or really nice... not inbetween :D and I would like her to have really long hair with bangs ^^

Ranmaru
I think they will at least keep him playable in free mode but again I think his story could be really good. Maybe if they add more of the Mori playable he will have more of a chance of having a story again?

Sasaki and Musashi
they aren't incrediblly important characters but if they removed one then they would have to remove both :S I still hope they are kept in because I really liek them :D

Yoshimoto
I would prefer it if he was changed to a more... Yuan Shao style character. Where he is really regtal and less... girly. He is an important character for a small part as long as they give him his real story this time...

Nene
I have said this before but I would like her to be half priestess and half Kunoichi... perhaps they could change her moves that are identical to Kuno to more magical moves 8D
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I think they will at least keep him playable in free mode but again I think his story could be really good. Maybe if they add more of the Mori playable he will have more of a chance of having a story again?
The only notable members of his clan were his dad and himself, and neither one of them were really that notable; Ranmaru is mostly known for dying with Nobunaga at Honnoji.

Don't confuse them with the Mouri, though, because they're completely different clans.
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Ranmaru wasn't notable, all he was was Nobunaga's page and too young to have done anything by the time he died; it was his brother Nagayoshi who was the more notable son of Yoshinari, fighting in several battles against Takeda and Uesugi, governing parts of Kai-Shinano and fighting the Uesugi during Honnoji.
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Ranmaru wasn't notable, all he was was Nobunaga's page and too young to have done anything by the time he died; it was his brother Nagayoshi who was the more notable son of Yoshinari, fighting in several battles against Takeda and Uesugi, governing parts of Kai-Shinano and fighting the Uesugi during Honnoji.
Very true but I think Ranmaru made an excellent character. He adds more dimensions to Nobunaga's story which I thought was really cool.
Even though he was not one of my favorites I do not want him to be cut. He has an interesting moveset to boot. However, like Yoshimoto and Okuni, the free mode only thing kind of makes me think Koei may be planning on cutting them. :(

The only one I can really see being cut totally would be Yoshimot (the kemari guy- sp?)
He is always added in an xtreme legends but I think Koei may be phasing out the earlier years in favor of the later years even more so than they did in two.

Oh and sorry for my rants in a diff topic seraphil...just very mad at Koei right now for many different reasons. :wub:
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i think that gracia and okuni will be removed
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Okuni has already been confirmed to be in.
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aff.instead of adding hideaki kobayakawa and yoshitsugu otani,they let okuni in and don't add this characters.koei is kidding with us
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We don't really need Okuni, but so does Hideaki. Yoshitsugu is a known general and friends with Mitsunari, but he's not more important than Kiyomasa. Plus, he's a leper, and I have a feeling people will make fun of himm.

And Koei is not kidding. They really like Okuni, so don't be shocked when somebody you like is cut.
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