YMS-15 Gyan

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YMS-15 Gyan; Pilot: M'Quve
Topic Started: Nov 7 2008, 01:08 AM (343 Views)
Jorgh	Nov 7 2008, 01:08 AM Post #1
Beecha-tard~<3 Posts: 361 Group: Members Member #13,972 Joined: March 13, 2008 Gender Male	Since its finally been confirmed, the Gyan! I was pretty surprised they had M'quve pilot a Gouf in the first game, its nice that they are actually putting his mobile suit in this time. Its weaponry should make for a fun moveset. With its saber and awesome shield. I'm looking forward to seeing how it fights.
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DestinyX	Nov 7 2008, 01:28 AM Post #2
Gundam Meister Posts: 158 Group: Members Member #19,007 Joined: October 12, 2008 Gender Male	Yay! The gyan should be good. I just hope its sword has the chivarly action which is rapid stabbing/slashing. Also This machine moveset should be unique thru all of it
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Kamen Rider Zx	Nov 7 2008, 02:41 PM Post #3
Leader of 4th squad Posts: 276 Group: Members Member #10,670 Joined: October 28, 2007 Gender Male	i didn't like M'quve he mock char but it's good that 0079 has more suit and it's suit of important villian like M'quve



Jorgh	Dec 22 2008, 08:54 AM Post #4
Beecha-tard~<3 Posts: 361 Group: Members Member #13,972 Joined: March 13, 2008 Gender Male	Well it kinda sucks that this suit was treated as a grunt in DW Gundam 2. It should have at least been a mid level suit like Turn X and Gottrlatan. Oh well. Has anybody tried it out yet? Does it share a moveset with any other grunts or is it at least unique?
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Shokatshin	Mar 5 2009, 12:42 AM Post #5
Yes my Sweetest Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #20,120 Joined: December 23, 2008 Gender Male	After having played the Gyan, does anyone else feel that we've been entirely too unfair with it? On its own it isn't much, but once you get High Tension, its Overdrive SP is so good compared to its peers that I almost didn't believe it. In my experience, the initial volley does lots of damage to a single ace if aimed right and the following sweep of missiles is also way more effective against groups than I ever expected.



wodash	Mar 5 2009, 03:04 AM Post #6
undefeated in all directions Posts: 1,022 Group: Members Member #12,767 Joined: January 20, 2008 Gender Male	the only problem with the SP attack is the rockets travels at a parabolic arc,so if you try to shoot from far away it will miss the ones in front of you,the fact that pallace athene can do the same thing without SP,and can be loaded with sniper and charge drives makes gyan even more....shafted? they should give it epyon's SP instead IMO..it's more "in character" the SP is also less useful in PS2 since the enemies rarely gather in mega sized packs unless its an extra mission with high levels if you guys have the time, try this game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBX7LRtBeLA i can't find a gyan vid but its in the game and its AWESOME>.<
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Shokatshin	Mar 5 2009, 03:21 AM Post #7
Yes my Sweetest Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #20,120 Joined: December 23, 2008 Gender Male	wodash Mar 5 2009, 03:04 AM the only problem with the SP attack is the rockets travels at a parabolic arc,so if you try to shoot from far away it will miss the ones in front of you,the fact that pallace athene can do the same thing without SP,and can be loaded with sniper and charge drives makes gyan even more....shafted? they should give it epyon's SP instead IMO..it's more "in character" the SP is also less useful in PS2 since the enemies rarely gather in mega sized packs unless its an extra mission with high levels if you guys have the time, try this game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBX7LRtBeLA i can't find a gyan vid but its in the game and its AWESOME>.< EX Revue! Been meaning to try that game since forever. Well, in the Gyan's defense, the Palace Athene (man, that really should be Pallas Athene) is a Class 2 whereas the Gyan is a Class 3. That's what I meant when I was referring to the Gyan's "peers"; and there certainly are some horrible Class 3 SP attacks out there. Meanwhile, the Gyan's Overdrive SP is good enough that I'd put it on par with some Class 2's SPs. On the other hand, you're absolutely right; given how fewer enemies show up on the PS2, I can see how you might feel the Overdrive SP isn't worth anything against groups. However, how is the initial volley against aces? If you combine it with Instant Hero, it should be pretty powerful when you get all those rapid-fire missiles to land... If anything, the Gyan needs to become a Class 1 suit. Give it an improved version of the missile spread as an Air SP, and a stabbity-stab-stab super for its Ground SP. I can only imagine the wild things they could do for its Charge Attacks and Combination SP.



wodash	Mar 5 2009, 03:29 AM Post #8
undefeated in all directions Posts: 1,022 Group: Members Member #12,767 Joined: January 20, 2008 Gender Male	i play EX revue whenever i had the urge for some gyan action,zeong is hard to play though,the battle assault version is easier,also:the game has gaia&his dom,jet stream attack! as for its SP vs aces....i find its hard to nail all rockets on an ace,especially little ones like god gundam and V2,bulky dudes like the O and the MA's are easy pickings though....,and instant hero is a MUST for all class 3 it goes without saying.... i can't agree more of gyan becoming a class 1,that's what i always thought when i first saw the famitsu scan about gyan.......
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Shokatshin	Mar 5 2009, 03:47 AM Post #9
Yes my Sweetest Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #20,120 Joined: December 23, 2008 Gender Male	Fair enough. I admit I've been landing the volley on medium and large-sized mechs, so I'll try landing it on smaller mechs later.



Jorgh	Mar 5 2009, 04:11 AM Post #10
Beecha-tard~<3 Posts: 361 Group: Members Member #13,972 Joined: March 13, 2008 Gender Male	When I play M'Quve I plan to use the Gyan a lot so I'm glad to hear it isn't complete crap. I too expected it to be a class 1 along with Turn X and Gottrlatan but sadly they all got crapped on. At least they are included anyways. Hopefully in the next game they will get an upgrade.
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Shokatshin	Mar 5 2009, 04:47 AM Post #11
Yes my Sweetest Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #20,120 Joined: December 23, 2008 Gender Male	While I'm willing to say it isn't crap, and even say that it's nowhere close to Bottom Tier, I will say it needs work to get to a usable level. Get Instant Hero and High Tension with M'Quve ASAP if you want to get anywhere with the Gyan.



Richie408	Mar 5 2009, 05:45 AM Post #12
Right General Posts: 659 Group: Members Member #20,283 Joined: January 5, 2009 Gender Male	My opinion for Gyan is that it doesn't really have any charge attacks which is why I often don't like using class 3 that don't have charge attacks. They may hack around for a long portion of the battle but it gets sorta boring without it... your combos won't be as high either so can't really utilize some other nifty skills. The suit is alright though but you pretty much got to be a melee attack lover to want to use it. Same goes for any other suit that has no charge attacks... And you've brought up the SP attack situation... yeah pretty much the other factor is getting it to become more of an sp user with some attachments and skills too. Not really my cup of tea with this kind of gameplay design. I still like doing my combos and do some fancy air sp attacks afterwards.. if I recall correctly i don't think the class 3's can do an Air sp... like Gyan. Another reason why i don't like them as much as other suits that are able to do so or able to do charge attacks. Forgot to state the other advantages of class 3 suits... i guess skill learning sometimes they got better percentage rate with skill learning... and i think they also have some skills which can be only learned by using a class 3 suit. Edited by Richie408, Mar 5 2009, 05:52 AM.



wodash	Mar 5 2009, 11:07 AM Post #13
undefeated in all directions Posts: 1,022 Group: Members Member #12,767 Joined: January 20, 2008 Gender Male	damage canceler,instant hero,small giant,CHARISMA all grunt only,all pain in the beep to get,thank god instant hero and small giant is in GUNCANNON(fun&strong MS,excellent choice in gundam fight),so yeah,no class3 exclusive,and don't forget class2 cannot do air SP too.
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Shokatshin	Mar 6 2009, 04:39 AM Post #14
Yes my Sweetest Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #20,120 Joined: December 23, 2008 Gender Male	On the other hand, I really could not recommend Guncannon to newbies with a straight face. I'd rather just go Byalant > JR's Gelgoog if you wanted to get both skills naturally. And yeah, of course Gyan suffers from the same problems as other Class 3 suits that aren't named Gouf. I'm just saying that, once you do get your setup up and running, the Gyan's way better than stuff like, say, the Z'gok. cringe



wodash	Mar 6 2009, 11:35 AM Post #15
undefeated in all directions Posts: 1,022 Group: Members Member #12,767 Joined: January 20, 2008 Gender Male	Shokatshin Mar 6 2009, 04:39 AM On the other hand, I really could not recommend Guncannon to newbies with a straight face. I'd rather just go Byalant > JR's Gelgoog if you wanted to get both skills naturally. And yeah, of course Gyan suffers from the same problems as other Class 3 suits that aren't named Gouf. I'm just saying that, once you do get your setup up and running, the Gyan's way better than stuff like, say, the Z'gok. cringe well,i was suggesting on using guncannon to farm the instant hero and small giant skills at the gundam fight missions,which guncannon will easily finish in one combo>SP attack,which is very easy to do since you are facing only one opponent i wont suggest guncannon for random missions or 1000 MS shotdowns though,unless you're a fan,since it lacks crowd clearing
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Shokatshin	Mar 7 2009, 03:24 AM Post #16
Yes my Sweetest Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #20,120 Joined: December 23, 2008 Gender Male	That actually is a good idea. Do certain missions where you have a lot of enemies and, as long as your faction queue isn't filled up, you could unlock the Gundam Fight missions easily. Though getting skills can be a pain sometimes, even if Gundam Fight is really brief.



Haime	Mar 18 2009, 03:45 AM Post #17
Officer Posts: 63 Group: Members Member #15,519 Joined: May 16, 2008	I was really happy when i unlocked it : D coz' M'Quve MS had a very "european" style for fight in the original anime, kinda fencing and using the sword like a "foil". But in the game is just a brute robot without the style. I know that is just a prototype MS and a class 3 in the game, but definetly didn't use the sword like a heat hawk, coz' that it seems in the game. PD: Sorry my english.



wodash	Mar 18 2009, 10:31 AM Post #18
undefeated in all directions Posts: 1,022 Group: Members Member #12,767 Joined: January 20, 2008 Gender Male	it does stab once in S8 if you want the fencing style>.<,and at least it got to use the grenade shield with excellent proficiency>.<
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necrosis	Mar 22 2009, 12:46 PM Post #19
Watching and waiting... Posts: 2,238 Group: Members Member #1,706 Joined: April 26, 2006	Gyan needs to be a Class 2 simply because it is awesomeness, and M'Quve deserves better. C'mon, crap like ZGok is class 2, even though is appantly has bad stats and moves, so why should the awesome Gyan be gyped in moves even though it has better stats?
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wodash	Mar 22 2009, 01:12 PM Post #20
undefeated in all directions Posts: 1,022 Group: Members Member #12,767 Joined: January 20, 2008 Gender Male	its still awesome,just like gouf,so get over with it and start liking it,there's still a hope for the next game thus just enjoy the current one to the fullest note that compared to other grunt like gaza and geara doga the gyan still have one thing that class 3 rarely have:a non clone SP attack,usually most class3 SP attack is "fire 3~4 times with beam rifle/bazooka",be grateful gyan still gets a cool SP attack(but i admit i like a fencing SP more than its current one)
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