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Samurai Warriors 2: Xtreme Legends [v2]; AKA Sengoku Musou 2: Moushouden
Topic Started: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:40 pm (15,922 Views)
ChenChong
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Well...there is only one thing left to do... Download ourselves or we wait for suppliers.

My download space says 3.42 GB, is it really DVD9 version? I hope so... I only got one disk to do the stuff... <_<
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Lungzhi
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My download space says 3.74 GB.
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Astus
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Ok guys, I've allowed the talk on this matter to go on too long but now it has gotta stop. It is prohibited by the rules and whilst I have given a little leeway it has now got excessive with the talk of DIY pirating, file sizes and things to that effect and as of now no more talk on it is permitted lest you risk a possible warn.
Thanks =)
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Tesouken
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i gots another 5th yeyeye, look at it:

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Sakon is happy now.

Also, i have like only 6 5th weapons to go ^^

(mitsunari, noh, yukimura, kanetsugu, yoshimoto, shingen) (not counting okuni cause i havent even once played with her yet lol)
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SyrianDude
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Does anyone do this? Even though the 4th weapon is better than the 5th weapon sometimes, do you still use it but just edit it? I like have to. I can't just use a 4th weapon even though I have a 5th weapon. It's like using a 3rd weapon when you already have a 4th or something...>_>
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Mr.Honda
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Jun 12 2008, 01:50 PM
Does anyone do this? Even though the 4th weapon is better than the 5th weapon sometimes, do you still use it but just edit it? I like have to. I can't just use a 4th weapon even though I have a 5th weapon. It's like using a 3rd weapon when you already have a 4th or something...>_>

Only if the 5th stats are better than the 4th do I use them. I know the weapon system ranks the 5th weapons overall higher than the 4ths, but I don't have enough orbs to fix some of the worthless stats on some of the 5ths -_-
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LoW
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I wouldn't say 5th weapons are overall worse than 4th weapons. 5ths just happen to be more defensive while most of the 4th weapons have strong attack power. In the end, it really depends from your play style and the character you're playing with.

Only 5ths I really hate are the ones which are filled with Dexterity and Speed stats >_>.

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GoW
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To add on to what LoW said, the 5ths just seem to be the opposite of the 4ths in certain cases. Like Kenshin's 4th with alot of attack bonuses, and his 5th with defense. The opposite can be said for Tadakatsu, even though he has some attack on his 4th as well.

The 5ths also seem to present more of a challenge to play with, they basically change the way you play the character. But the wind element on most of the has to go <_<
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Crazypete
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how many of you guys have the 360 version? if so.. how do i add my SW2 data to sw2 xl?
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Amakusa
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LoW
Jun 12 2008, 06:32 PM
I wouldn't say 5th weapons are overall worse than 4th weapons. 5ths just happen to be more defensive while most of the 4th weapons have strong attack power. In the end, it really depends from your play style and the character you're playing with.

I never got Kanetsugu's 4th weapon, but I did get his 5th. His 5th weapon suits my playstyle far more than the 4th (because up until I got the 5th weapon I had a 3rd weapon that was remarkably similar to it). I wouldn't call it 'defensive' as opposed to an alternative play style: the 5th is meant to freeze guys and chain a Musou onto them (since it has both Ice element and a huge load of Musou Charge).
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ChenChong
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Lungzhi
Jun 12 2008, 11:23 AM
My download space says 3.74 GB.

It is confirmed by me that that file is a DVD5 version for a true DVD9 version will have 8 GB or more.
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Astus
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That's great and all but I've already told you to not mention it, I'll give you one more chance bro, so no more talk about the pirating it AT ALL!
Thank you =)
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LittleDragonZ
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LoW, I bet you were livid when discovering Kojiro's 5th, hahaha! Though you probably changed all the dexterity into another stat instantly since he's one of your favorites.
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Jun 16 2008, 09:45 AM
LoW, I bet you were livid when discovering Kojiro's 5th, hahaha! Though you probably changed all the dexterity into another stat instantly since he's one of your favorites.

Yes, I did. I created a defensive weapon for him. It has Def +60, MuCha +60 and Speed +40 and Ice element. It's not strong but at least I can spam Musou whenever I want >_>.

Amakusa
 
I never got Kanetsugu's 4th weapon, but I did get his 5th. His 5th weapon suits my playstyle far more than the 4th (because up until I got the 5th weapon I had a 3rd weapon that was remarkably similar to it). I wouldn't call it 'defensive' as opposed to an alternative play style: the 5th is meant to freeze guys and chain a Musou onto them (since it has both Ice element and a huge load of Musou Charge).

All 5th weapons are not defensive, of course. Sometimes it's the opposite. Kanetsugu's 4th was defensive (with Def boost) so obviously his 5th is offensive (it's exactly like his 4th but Def is replaced with Atk).
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... I am looking for some images of lugiadoom... it's every new cg of all characters in Mercenary Mode... when they talk... Is there anyone still having it?
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Tesouken
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Can someone explain to me what the correct way of playing with yoshimoto is? i was doing his gaiden on normal and i barely got trough it, characters like hideyoshi kept me looking for hp constantly, and ieyasu was even worse i was busy killing him for 25 minutes ....

eventually i saw no other solution than to lure nobunaga out cause i had no chance against hideyoshi shibata and toshiie around him :l

I see no use at all for his special attacks since on higher diff's characters always use their air charge when in the air and even If you get em on the floor they stand up very fast. His fake death has no use at all as i see it. His main combo is extremely slow and easy to break and his specials arent that strong, his new 4th move is way to slow and always blocked unless you do it into a wall but that will only end a block and hardly damage. I find him a real useless char and cant imagine getting his weapons :l

Same goes for shingen appart from his new 4th move wich actually is pretty damn handy.. some characters are really sh!t.
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Tesouken
Jun 18 2008, 09:21 AM
Can someone explain to me what the correct way of playing with yoshimoto is? i was doing his gaiden on normal and i barely got trough it, characters like hideyoshi kept me looking for hp constantly, and ieyasu was even worse i was busy killing him for 25 minutes ....

eventually i saw no other solution than to lure nobunaga out cause i had no chance against hideyoshi shibata and toshiie around him :l

I see no use at all for his special attacks since on higher diff's characters always use their air charge when in the air and even If you get em on the floor they stand up very fast. His fake death has no use at all as i see it. His main combo is extremely slow and easy to break and his specials arent that strong, his new 4th move is way to slow and always blocked unless you do it into a wall but that will only end a block and hardly damage. I find him a real useless char and cant imagine getting his weapons :l

Same goes for shingen appart from his new 4th move wich actually is pretty damn handy.. some characters are really sh!t.

I posted my thoughts on his moveset in his character-specific topic:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/koeiwarriors/i...dpost&p=3772340

Also, LoW posted some good tips on how to use him as well:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/koeiwarriors/i...dpost&p=3789307

I'll admit, he does start pretty weak but once he levels and gets his full moveset and a decent weapon with Lightning element, he gets better.

As far as Shingen goes, I agree. His C5 really helps him against officers and his 5th weapon gives him a nice attack boost ^_^
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Tesouken
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Mr.Honda
Jun 18 2008, 01:48 PM
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Jun 18 2008, 09:21 AM
Can someone explain to me what the correct way of playing with yoshimoto is? i was doing his gaiden on normal and i barely got trough it, characters like hideyoshi kept me looking for hp constantly, and ieyasu was even worse i was busy killing him for 25 minutes ....

eventually i saw no other solution than to lure nobunaga out cause i had no chance against hideyoshi shibata and toshiie around him :l

I see no use at all for his special attacks since on higher diff's characters always use their air charge when in the air and even If you get em on the floor they stand up very fast. His fake death has no use at all as i see it. His main combo is extremely slow and easy to break and his specials arent that strong, his new 4th move is way to slow and always blocked unless you do it into a wall but that will only end a block and hardly damage. I find him a real useless char and cant imagine getting his weapons :l

Same goes for shingen appart from his new 4th move wich actually is pretty damn handy.. some characters are really sh!t.

I posted my thoughts on his moveset in his character-specific topic:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/koeiwarriors/i...dpost&p=3772340

Also, LoW posted some good tips on how to use him as well:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/koeiwarriors/i...dpost&p=3789307

I'll admit, he does start pretty weak but once he levels and gets his full moveset and a decent weapon with Lightning element, he gets better.

As far as Shingen goes, I agree. His C5 really helps him against officers and his 5th weapon gives him a nice attack boost ^_^

thanks for the effort, can you tell me how i utilise this "amazing power" of his when he has his Mousou ougi3 ?
Do i need to activate his mousou while in playdead stance or do i need to do play dead while in mousou? And what exactly does it do since i find it hard already to damage anything with his mousou.
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Have his level 3 musou, then when it reaches the end and the last bar is almost empty, use the play dead special and the musou effects (fireworks?) will continue while he is lying down on the ground and the musou bar is empty. He will finish the remaining motions of his musou after he gets up.

Obviously, if we're talking about while he is leveling up, you may not have his level 3 musou yet. He isn't amazing, but he isn't as bad in this version as in previous ones.
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Tesouken
Jun 18 2008, 01:21 PM
Can someone explain to me what the correct way of playing with yoshimoto is? i was doing his gaiden on normal and i barely got trough it, characters like hideyoshi kept me looking for hp constantly, and ieyasu was even worse i was busy killing him for 25 minutes ....

eventually i saw no other solution than to lure nobunaga out cause i had no chance against hideyoshi shibata and toshiie around him :l

I see no use at all for his special attacks since on higher diff's characters always use their air charge when in the air and even If you get em on the floor they stand up very fast. His fake death has no use at all as i see it. His main combo is extremely slow and easy to break and his specials arent that strong, his new 4th move is way to slow and always blocked unless you do it into a wall but that will only end a block and hardly damage. I find him a real useless char and cant imagine getting his weapons :l

Same goes for shingen appart from his new 4th move wich actually is pretty damn handy.. some characters are really sh!t.

this may not be alot of help, but here's how i see it. SW has more "specialized characters" than DW(Noh, Shingen, Goemon, Yoshimoto, Okuni, Motochika). usually folks excel at one style of play, and these characters are no exception. i've always preferred these type of characters to the others.

that said, Yoshimoto, at least for me, is pretty easy to combo and his charge attack deals good damage, his sssst?(where he kicks the ball in a circle around him) always connects and is devastating(he's best with Lightening, but Fire is good too, i use both in WO), his normal combo where he ends with the downward Katana strike always stuns, and his Musou is pretty much like Gan Ning's old Musou(frustrating at first, but really effective against large crowds when you have proper control). also i've always treated Yoshi as a ranged character since so many of his good moves are with the Kemari ball, so keep some distance between you and the enemy. he's not a good character to charge into a group of officers when he's not leveled up. i have Yoshi maxed in all the games and i use him alot, so i think you often get used to a character after repeated use.

he starts with very high defense and a fairly high life bar, but his attack is weak, so i usually add attack to him, first and foremost. as you mentioned, his special is not really effective against anyone very fast, but it is charming..."i feel faint!" hope this helped a bit.

i use Shingen rather like i use Cao Ren, he's a tank and has high life stats. he IS very slow, but most of his combo enders are powerful and not easily blockable. he's a dependable character, but can get into trouble with very quick opponents.
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i have this basic strategy when fighting with yoshimoto.

*Use C1s and C5s to thin out crowds from a distance.
*Use S-String (very good string) and C2s to take out generals.

Yoshi is really a good deulist as a whole. Even his specials are geared to take on single opponents. His throw for finishers, and his play dead for when you are in the red. And his special skill goes hand in hand with his play dead special, thats really its main purpose. His function in crowds is a bit slow and he needs to keep opponents in front of him most of the time. C4 can give you breathing room or use his musou to escape, its very fast and not as hard to control as his past musou with the kemari ball. Once you have your bearings back, preceed back to the C1 and C5 strategy to thin them out.

Those are my tips, but we all are different.
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All you tips are apreciated.
Atm ive bought blood will tell and naruta ultimate ninja 2 (i never watched the anime but why the heck not) so i got some more things to do now lulz.
I dunno why im addicted to buying games - __________________ -

but!

i also still need to beat MGS4 for a second tiem now that i have more facecamo's and uhm i wanted to maek more pictures also, and get some more of the music now that i finally understand how the ipod works and even still inbetween im playing SW2xl lol.
But i hate importing data, the game sometimes freezes and then i need to import all over again hm, i was lately doing mercenary mode on hard with a level 1 okuni cause i have never yet played with her since SW1 (i didnt unlock her in sw2 cause i couldnt win surokokoku or something) but i go play naruto in a moment i guess i havent tried to get yoshimotos 4th either yet even though its his 1st stage i didnt feel like it yet i dont have his ougi3 yet either anyway.

So much games to play ;<

bad weather anyway so why not.
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i havnt got SW:XL yet cause i havnt got xbox live , but can anyone tell me is kojiro sasaki `s move set any good , and does he throw a broadsword ??
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Mitsuhide-kojiro-Musashi
Jun 20 2008, 11:23 PM
i havnt got SW:XL yet cause i havnt got xbox live , but can anyone tell me is kojiro sasaki `s move set any good , and does he throw a broadsword ??

go here:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/koeiwarriors/i...?showtopic=2435

and you can read many various perspectives on Kojiro. enjoy.
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how do i add my sw 2 data to sw 2 xl?
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