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Topic Started: Jan 15 2009, 12:56 AM (3,364 Views)
Nasser
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wow I never thought Fayt imitate those "debate seekers" he used to dislike when he was an admin. Sorry Fayt, but chill dude.

Anyways I'm not intending to restart that arguement again by all means, but I know bazillion of ways to cut spam. The older KWs used to have an Anti-spam code which basically doesn't allow anyone to post less than (insert number of letters here). I'm positive it has been re-made to work with ZetaBoards. Aside that, you can increase that limit to 50? I know that few tried to just spam 25 posts to get it, but when they see it's 50 they need to post, I figure they would just return to Google. It's not a grand number, as pretty much every active member a post count above that. Though I think you guys should give this new rule a chance, maybe the spam would cut in the few coming days.

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Mods, Global mods and Admins aren't super humans, you know. We're regular people as well and we ALL have our own personal lives to deal with as well as forum responsibilities. With the whole 25 posts thing, it was discussed for quite sometime before being implemented, and sometimes you just have to take risks with these things. It's only just been put into effect a very short time ago, so calling it a failure already is just silly. Maybe Nasser's idea would be good, increasing it to 50. It's quite a bit higher, and most people probably wouldn't want to spend the time posting all of that just for some OST's.

The staff try our best to take everything into consideration, and to communicate efficiently with the members. However the staff was like when you were part of it, Jiahe, it has more then changed now. The staff team are all very capable at their jobs and try their best. Also, what makes ex staff members opinion higher then other members? Any suggestions and thoughts on new mods are welcome of course, but why would we go directly to ex staff members and ask their opinion? Staff members are part of the community as well, we do discuss thoroughly who to choose as new moderators, and considering the current staff team I don't think we've done too bad in the past.

As for a 'Ex Staff Member' group, I really don't see the point. I thought the whole point of most of the ex staff members leaving was to 'Be a member' again. Unless my memory is fuzzy, there's not even THAT many ex staff members here - Fayt, Jiahe, Mr. Honda. Maybe my memory of past staff members is REALLY bad, but people like TinyCaterpillar, Divine Justice, Shogun, Crazypete, Occult, Ice Prince etc don't even post here regularly anymore, so what's the point of having an 'Ex staff member' group if there's only going to be what, 3 members in it? Pointless.

At the end of the day, we DO try our best as staff members. Sarcastic comments are not helpful from anyone.
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The staff try our best to take everything into consideration, and to communicate efficiently with the members.
It seems when I bring up the issue like this, again it basically gets ignored because I get the same responses. This isn't worth my time so forget it, I don't care at this point anymore.
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I do see what you're saying Jiahe, i'm sorry if it seemed like I was giving you the cold sholder. I can really only say how I see it and from my perspective. Personally, I would always respond to any questions sent to me via PM, or directed at me on the boards. There have been times when things have been overlooked yes, whether it be from members or members of the staff themselves. But we can only try our best. Like I said previously, we are all regular people just trying to look after the forum and make sure things run smoothly. I think generally we do do a good job at it, but no one or no team is perfect in every scenario.

What issues are you talking about anyway? If it's the 25 posts thing, then that is being discussed within the staff and we're trying to come up with a solution for the spam. If it's about the Ex-Staff Member group, it's been discussed and honestly, it's unprobable it will happen as no one see's much point in it. Both of those issues HAVE been discussed and replied too. As for the whole communication thing, well... We can only do our best, as i've said. People should appreciate the work we do put in to this forum out of our own time. I can't speak for the whole staff team really, they can speak for themselves. But I have always tried my very best to communicate efficiently with members, and i'm sure the other staff members have too.

Sometimes it just comes down to, if i'm honest... Not getting the result you want from a situation. Just because you make a suggestion doesn't mean it HAS to be implimented. We discuss it and look at the wider picture yes, and sometimes we decide it just wouldn't work/isn't for the best. You have to keep that in mind when making suggestions.
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You are correct Miho. Almost everything in this thread has been either discussed or replied to. I don't see how communication is a problem here.

Also I don't like how people are simply ignoring the first post that contains the guidelines for posting in this topic. It should be read before posting suggestions or ideas here.

http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/single/?p=8085412&t=6548236
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Miho
Mar 26 2009, 07:00 PM
Mods, Global mods and Admins aren't super humans, you know. We're regular people as well and we ALL have our own personal lives to deal with as well as forum responsibilities.
You don't need to remind me, I know that better then anyone, but if the responsiblities of the staff seems to much you could always hire more staff members, the more help the better.
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So the mod have their own section? I never knew that, there isn't any mod section in the forum. So thats where they decide on who to give warning.


If regular members can't enter the mod section then regular members need an area where only they can enter too.

Just sayin'...
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Why would you want another member section...? :mellow:
We already have the Members Lounge and Members Section. (for the downloads)

I have seen on another forum the "veteran members" section, which were applied to old members and ex-staff but I doubt its necessary here, but even so, they are modded you can't prevent staff from entering "our" sections. O.o
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Ruka is right, there is no real way to get around the fact that there isn't going to be a section where moderators can't enter. The simple truth is, we need a section only for us to discuss how to better the forum (yes we do listen to suggestions quite often) and to discuss other issues. So sorry if some of you guys feel left out, but that's just the way it is, for lack of a better phrase.
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Since the Shoutbox no longer exists, don't you think it's reference in the Forum Rules should be removed?
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How about more background colors.

I changed my theme to a samurai warrior theme but I still have this brown background color. I think it would be nice if we could pick our own background color. :cool:
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Well here are some of my suggestions:


  • Post count in the fun area enabled

  • Battledome Area


Post counts enabled cause it will make our forum look more active ( we already are )

Battledome area is a place where members can have character match ups.

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May 6 2009, 07:50 AM
Well here are some of my suggestions:


  • Post count in the fun area enabled


Post counts enabled cause it will make our forum look more active ( we already are )

I don't understand why the post count for the Fun Area should be enabled. That is the most popular section on the forums. There are more than 600 replies posted daily just in that section. I don't see any benefits or actual reasoning why this is would be a good thing.

As for the Battle Dome idea. I assume that would be a place for versus topics. We simply do not allow such topics to be posted. It sparks flame wars and no good ever comes of it. It's one person's opinion vs. another.
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i realize that this has been being discussed for pages, but it's really becoming intolerable, the amount of spam topics, spam posts, double/triple postings are OUT-OF-CONTROL. and with so few mods in certain areas and some of those who only come on every few days, things are just starting to look really junky. not to mention, that i've personally addressed at least three posts where someone fairly new has rudely insulted a long-time member and with no Mod in sight, i took it upon myself to correct the individual-nicely, of course.

when i returned after my soul searching, because i felt as though that homosexuality nonsense perpetrated in the debates thread was handled VERY badly, i promised myself to not get involved and just ignore what was going on. but this is like any community in RL, there need to be folks to police other less responsible folks actions, and i just don't see that happening recently.

one suggestion i have for the new members spam issue is a form PM sent to every new member stating the most common issues and reminding them that common courtesy IS EXPECTED.

this is by no means an attack on anyone. there are alot of things that are running smoothly, it just appears to me that nothing is being done in the short term about bad behavior, whatever you all plan for the long term. and every day more new members join who ignore the forum rules. thanks for listening. foomin.
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Well I suggested before with all these spammers running around that we add an Automatic Welcome PM from the Administrator, which explains all the rules and tells people to post a topic in the Introduction Lounge. I don't know if it is possible on Zetaboards though. I'm hoping it is, but that's up to the admin's decision.

If you come across any problems or issues then please speak up. We haven't had really any reports this month and my inbox has been empty for quite some time now. I've only seen some spammers recently, but a lot of members have been real helpful explaining the rules and assisting with new members. Most of the disciplinary actions are invisible to the public so you may think there is an absence of justice. The 'troublemakers' are usually dealt with immediately after a problem arises.

Remember that we aren't robots. We have daily lives too. I must admit that it has been slow around here, but that's because it's finals for many people and there isn't that much game information out now.

For future problems or issues just use this thread or PM a staff member. Don't hesitate because we're here to assist you guys.

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foomin has a point, I still see cases of members joining to spam up to 25 for free goodies and other cases of general poor posting, and from a member point of view we don't exactly see a lot happening. I know some PM work etc happens behind the scenes, but we can't see that, nor to we know if it's working or not.

Just because members aren't bringing problems up Jsun does not mean everything is running fine, a lot of members don't like to bring up issues as they can often be perceived as a nuisance. That's how I was made to feel when I brought up a few a while back.

Anyway, this isn't really on topic, I do have a suggestion though.

Can we have a DW: Strikeforce theme added in the near future? I'm sure there are enough capable ones around here to make one! Even put a call out to some of the GFX members here for one if the moderators are too busy for one at the moment, I'm sure a lot of guys here would like to use one. ^_^
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May 16 2009, 01:39 AM
Can we have a DW: Strikeforce theme added in the near future? I'm sure there are enough capable ones around here to make one! Even put a call out to some of the GFX members here for one if the moderators are too busy for one at the moment, I'm sure a lot of guys here would like to use one. ^_^
I would love to see some new themes on the forum as well. I stick to the non flash theme because I get tired of looking at the same characters over and over when I viewing the pages. I wouldn't mind making one as long as I don't have to use the same characters that get used alot already. :mellow:
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While we're on the topic of skins, could we have at least one skin with a different colour for the main area of the page? (i.e. the brown bit). Perhaps the Strikeforce skin if it gets made, or even the Warriors Orochi or Samurai Warriors skins which would look much better with a blue-ish colour than brown.

What I actually came here to suggest was that the chat box be moved to the bottom rather than the top. Also, if it could be reduced in size if possible. It just looks clumsy up the top and provides more scrolling for those of us who just want to get to the forum.
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May 19 2009, 11:51 AM
What I actually came here to suggest was that the chat box be moved to the bottom rather than the top. Also, if it could be reduced in size if possible. It just looks clumsy up the top and provides more scrolling for those of us who just want to get to the forum.
Set it up as one of the Zeta webpages, it looks horrible sitting on top of the forum like that.
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The plan was actually never to put the chat box on the index of the forums or every page for that matter. It is suppost to be on a separate page like the last Shout Box we had.
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Well I'm glad, but this forum is a bit big for random live testing don't you think?

Anyway, you can achieve that via the Zeta webpages like I said in my suggestion above. Board Customization > Website Maker.

Or if some insist that it should remain on the index page then how about have it on some themes, and not others, giving the members the choice?

But at least in it's condensed size on the bottom of the page it's not as much of an eyesore and can be somewhat avoided. :)
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Thanks for suggestion. Fixed it so that now the Chat Box has it's own link and the one on the bottom is now gone.

http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/pages/chatbox/
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Well here are some of my suggestions:


  • Post count in the fun area enabled


Post counts enabled cause it will make our forum look more active ( we already are )

I don't understand why the post count for the Fun Area should be enabled. That is the most popular section on the forums. There are more than 600 replies posted daily just in that section. I don't see any benefits or actual reasoning why this is would be a good thing.

As for the Battle Dome idea. I assume that would be a place for versus topics. We simply do not allow such topics to be posted. It sparks flame wars and no good ever comes of it. It's one person's opinion vs. another.
A person's opinion and view of the world is always at stake. Do not make the mistake of coddling your users by preventing them from expressing their views. It didn't work before, and it won't work now.

Give us vses, and you will be rewarded.
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May 27 2009, 01:18 AM
A person's opinion and view of the world is always at stake. Do not make the mistake of coddling your users by preventing them from expressing their views. It didn't work before, and it won't work now.

Give us vses, and you will be rewarded.
The thing with the verses threads, is that there would be the reasonable vs topics, like the leaders, the posterboys etc...but then there would be those threads that we would see more than hlaf the time, of just random couplings, like Pang De, Zhou Yu, Dong Zhou, etc...and it just serves no real purpose, as people will always chose their favourite character.

I really dont see what benefits we would get in the forum from allowing the vs topics to be made.
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May 27 2009, 01:18 AM
A person's opinion and view of the world is always at stake. Do not make the mistake of coddling your users by preventing them from expressing their views. It didn't work before, and it won't work now.

Give us vses, and you will be rewarded.
The thing with the verses threads, is that there would be the reasonable vs topics, like the leaders, the posterboys etc...but then there would be those threads that we would see more than hlaf the time, of just random couplings, like Pang De, Zhou Yu, Dong Zhou, etc...and it just serves no real purpose, as people will always chose their favourite character.

I really dont see what benefits we would get in the forum from allowing the vs topics to be made.
Be that as it may, and I see where you're coming from... The vs board would still serve to increase forum traffic, which is an overall positive gain despite the added workload for moderators. I believe it is wise to do what's best for the continued pleasure of KW members, not what's necessarily convenient for the staff.
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