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| Topic Started: Feb 5 2009, 03:50 PM (933 Views) | |
| kuni_izumi | Feb 5 2009, 03:50 PM Post #1 |
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Everyone has something that drives them up the wall. When it comes to cosplay, what drives you crazy about the environment, people, or maybe the costume making process itself? For me it's people who say: OH I WANT TO COSPLAY but I can't sew/there's no one in my area that does it. If a guy can make a Lu Bu costume out of colored Duct Tape you can do ANYTHING! Get creative! And if there's no one around who does it--START IT! Find your closest convention (even if it's not exactly the right genre IE: a video game costume at a sci-fi convention), make a costume and GO! Serve as an example to your area and have a fun time! Even if you don't start a phenomenon at least you won't be left forever wishing you'd tried it. |
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| Kitsune | Feb 5 2009, 04:06 PM Post #2 |
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Interesting topic you have here.  For me,I get pissed when people keep doubting my ability to make my own costume,even when I'm trying my best to do so. I admit that I have no talent for sewing,but I'm willing to learn and I'm trying to do it to the best of my ability!  Yet they'll still go, "Are you sure you can do this?Better buy your costume instead,I don't think you can do it.", even when I've finished half of the costume.I wish people would just accept that I want to try new things,even though I have no talent for hands-on stuff. |
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| chousokabemotochika | Feb 6 2009, 12:05 AM Post #3 |
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Good for you Kitsune you don't know what you can achieve until you try and I am sure your costume will be awesome. But I know how you feel when people around you don't support or believe in you. My main peeve at the moment is when people fight over cosplaying characters and act like because they saw the costume first no one else can do it...only KOEI OWN the costume/character so just make the costume and have fun. |
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| wildcard | Feb 6 2009, 10:39 AM Post #4 |
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In my case it's various things. The last time I REALLY got pissed of thought. There were two people with the same costume. One had bought it, one had made it hersef. The bought one looked more professional than the self-made one. The one who bought it mobbed the one who'd tried her best and told her she should just give up on cosplay, cause she couldn't do any better than in a thousand years. I mean WHAT THE HELL?!  Cosplay is a HOBBY! It's mean to be FUN! And what gives that stupid girl a right to say something like that, when she obviously hasn't even the singlest clue how to make one herself! She has no experience and not the singlest right to critise the other one. -.- Especially since she was all stuck-up about it and acting like she could do better... In fact she was merely stating how much money she had cause she paid about 300 EUR to have it customized for her (and personally I didn't think that kind of cosplay was worth that much money). So generally, I dislike people only bad-mouthing a costume, instead of giving tips on how to do it better/different/more effective, thought in this case you also ought to have a certain feeling, wether or not the person is ready to accept it. I also dislike situations where people play a very popular character and then get up all pissed of because there were 10 of that one (and a few even done better or more convincing, thought they'd never admit that). Seriously. If you don't want to have a twin - choose a character that isn't popular or hasn't been done or is to difficoult for most to manage. Like kuni_izumi I also dislike the kind of people who are all talk and no action. I meet people so often that say "Next year, I'm going to cosplay too" and continue on and on who they want to make and stuff like that, but never actually do it. And that... every... single... year... I also get annoyed when people who see a character they like just rush up and crush them in a hug while letting out some sort of squee. It's rude, it's annoying and certainly is going to get the person pissed off if the costume is seriously damaged. And there are my least favourite kind of cosplayers. Those that would do anything to get photographed. One of the girls that stalked me for a whole con had stripped down almost to her underwear for a shoot in the open air pool... (Well, actually she was wearing her top and her panties, that were white and later also got wet...) It's fine if they feel comfortable with it, but not if they try to make other copy them (in that case me) or to try rubbing up on them and get a couple shoot. Or fangirls that try to make two cosplayers kiss so they get a couple shoot, even if the cosplayers do not want to. And they just can't accpet that. *sighs* Lots of things... Seeing them one might think I get angry at almost anything, but luckily I never had all of that happen to me. Usually one or two of those listed happen and I only bother with them for about as long as they happen or about ten minutes... I try not to think of it too long, so I can enjoy the con. An afterthought: I really, really, REALLY hate THIEFES! This never happened to me, but someone I hung out with at a con had a really beautiful cosplay (of a figure I didn't know and don't remember) that had a beautiful and difficoult weapon, with carvings and all as well as a long, incredible looking coat, which she set aside while writting conhon and eating. She only left it out of her eyes for about 5 minutes to return the conhon and when she returned, someone had taken coat and weapon. The material and time she estimated was 120 EUR and 3 full days of work. She was near tears when she couldn't find them, which I can fully understand. The only upside was that the thief apparently hadn't seen or cared for her backpack, which contained her train ticket and wallet. From what I've heard, the coat has made it's way back to her - thought in a bad shape. It also always makes me sad to read the many "Has anyone seen/found this or that"-threads after a con or the many "Please return xxxxxx" ones. I'd love it if you could at least trust that fellow fans wouldn't take what doesn't belong to them from others. |
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| kuni_izumi | Feb 6 2009, 05:36 PM Post #5 |
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;_; This is a surprisngly sad thread. Mean people, theives and cheaters make me cry. I HATE people who alter costumes into something that is untrue to the character. It is one thing to make a costume a little longer, a little more modest or maybe even a little more revealing for the sake of adapting it to your personality and style, but when it is untrue to the character it's wrong. For example: I saw a cosplayer who wore boot covers over THREE INCH HEELS with a DW4 Sun Shang Xiang alternate costume (the cute booty shorts). To me, adding heels goes against a LOT of what SSX's tomboyish tough and no-nonsense personality communicates. One of the things I LOVE about SSX is that she wears flats in every version but DW6 where she where FAIRLY practical platform sandals (better then Zhen Ji's heels anyways). I mean it's one thing if you can't find a proper shoe but any red or black ballet flat could have had a boot cover put over it to better match her shoes. Non-Koei refrence: this one is more of a fandom peeve, but it makes me sad to see Utena cosplayers cosplaying Utena in her Rose-Bride dress. Again, THAT DRESS represents EVERYTHING that Utena was against (if you've watched the whole series), and represents how she was manipulated by the main 'bad guy' in the series (don't want to be spoilerific). But then people go OH pretty dress and make it. I have less right to be annoyed since the costume is cannon, but I will always appreciate an Utena in her school/dueling uniform more than on in a dress. |
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| Brizz | Feb 7 2009, 01:46 AM Post #6 |
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It's not quite a pet peeve of mine, but yeah, it's kinda weird to use heels instead of trying to find something a little more similiar.  But I do notice that alot of Asian female cosplayers tend to wear high heeled boots when cosplaying men, just becuase it makes them taller. They try to be more "in-character" by making themselves taller but then the boots really stick out as being not part of the costume so it's kind of a trade off. @Kitsune- Yeah, way to be! >< b That's exactly how it was with my first costume. My family thought I was just playing around so they let me be, but then on the day of the festival I wore the complete outfit and they were like, "Whoa, you acutally made something wearable!" :3 I only go to one festival a year so I haven't seen much but from what I have seen... -If you are going to cosplay, please at least make it look like you tried to make the costume as accurate as possible. Running around with a half-assed costume is not flattering. -It is not cosplay if you wear a specific uniform not intending to be a specific character. (Gawd, Naruto cosplayers and their Amatsuki obsession  )-It doesn't hurt to at least try to make your hair look like the character, even if you can't purchase a wig. Don't just leave it as it is. |
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| Greenzaku | Feb 7 2009, 08:49 AM Post #7 |
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To me, while I personally try to be accurate, ultimately what satisfies one person is going to irritate someone else, so rather than make a judgement on the quality of someone else's cosplay, as long as they are having fun its all water under the bridge for me. If I don't like someone's cosplay, it's only my opinion and its my choice whether or not I want to be affected by it. The only lines I cannot accept being crossed are when someone makes it hard for someone else by being discouraging or just simply destructive. I know (luckily, not personally) of a batch of extremely elite(ist?) cosplayers in Singapore who don't even attend most events anymore because they can't stand to rub shoulders with newbies, don't want to be photographed by people who are 'not experienced enough' to make them look their best etc, and also look down on people that cosplay characters that physically don't resemble them as much in real life (this last point is a very contentious and divisive debate that is wholly unneccessary IMO) It's gotten to the point that they consider caucasian, stereotypically 'white' cosplayers as innately inferior if their faces are visible, because most characters are asian-looking. They grumble that a cosplayer is too old, too tanned, too fat, too pimply etc...while altering their appearance through makeup/hair removal etc to the point that they don't feel human anymore. There are some cosplayers that do not have any real eyebrows left as a result...;) While this can be argued as going to the extra effort of resembling an animated character, I prefer the approach of portraying the character through interacting with the public and other cosplayers, playing with kids and moving around the way the character would, not just posing prettily. How would Uesugi Kenshin react (in a friendly way) when toddlers want to cling to his legs? When a Bleach shinigami wants to whack him? When presented with fries and a coke? Its more fun like this instead of posing and just waiting to catch attention (though I do a bit of that too) Yet there are those that see having this kind of fun as being amateurish... |
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| kuni_izumi | Feb 7 2009, 02:13 PM Post #8 |
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Awww! Kenshin with a kid clinging to his leg would be sooooo cute! XD We think of him as the GOD OF WAR a lot but when you think about that situation he'd probably be firm but gentle with a kid. Your whole attitude is made of awesome Greenzaku. Pretty much off-topic since I think I've run through a lot of my pet peeves WAIT! ...people that do the same exact pose in EVERY PICTURE in their gallery. Yes, yes it's the character's 'classic' pose but I want to see how your costume looks when you move and various poses help that a lot. The same thing for twenty something pictures is boring! (not sure if the cosplayer of the photographer is to blame for this, I'm sure it's case-by-case) |
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| Nutella | Feb 7 2009, 04:51 PM Post #9 |
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My main pet peeve are the elitists and those who think they are too bloody high class for the newbies. These people get on my nerves by taking out the fun in cosplaying. At least, provide an avenue or let them meet a group of people for them to improve on their skills! No... They flame and don't bother to even go to the con. There's my other peeve: Cosplay circles politics. Those older generation people know what I'm talking about. @kuni_izumi: Dx gah! I'm guilty of using hte same pose over and over again. My excuse: my costume was falling apart and that was the only way to cover the holes up. Dx @serene_ai: I'd be pissed if somebody stole something of mine, especially if its something I've spent loads of time on. |
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| kuni_izumi | Feb 7 2009, 05:05 PM Post #10 |
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XD that's a viable excuse then, I'm sure there's usually a reason but it ticks me off when there's no GOOD reason for it. I saw this Ranmaru cosplayer once who did the same pose in every picture from every angle and it was the bent over with the nodachi in front of him main pose of UGLY! I would have loved to see the player STAND UP STRAIGHT in one picture. (Watch it turns out they are crippled and permanently hunched over and I get flamed for being insensitive e.e ) |
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| Nutella | Feb 7 2009, 05:16 PM Post #11 |
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*give you hugs and cookies* XD Well its true that some people just don't know how to do research about the character and do the pose they know best over and over ad infinitum.... That brings me to another peeve: People who cosplay cause they think cosplay is "Cool" and "The In thing!". These people will just buy the costume off the rack (not even noting the glaring mistakes and total inaccuracies) and do whatever they like at a con in costume. GAH! |
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| Kitsune | Feb 7 2009, 05:28 PM Post #12 |
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@chousokabemotochika: Thanks!  I really hope it'll turn out good.I'm in the process of making and spraying my armour parts (re-spraying,actually,as the effect wasn't that good when I first sprayed it.) .@Brizz: Haha,my family kept telling me to give up because I was really frustrated and close to a breakdown due to the day of the event drawing closer (I was really that close to a breakdown,believe me).My parents don't get what cosplay is all about so they're not that supportive,though they do ask me how much more do I need to do before my costume's completed.
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| Greenzaku | Feb 7 2009, 11:38 PM Post #13 |
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kuni_izumi: I think sometimes the same picture happens again and again because at an event, the cosplayer walks around and different photographers take pictures of him/her. Since each photographer is new, they feel the need to do the 'standard' pose for each photographer, resulting in multiple people capturing the same pose. Luckily its generally hard to steal part of a costume...most cosplayers either turn up at an event already dressed up or carry a duffel bag into the toilet to change. But other items get stolen, like handbags, wallets, cameras etc...that is shameful! Kitsune: LOL...my parents had absolutely no idea what I was up to, and thought it was some really strange art project. I was always so shy about it... |
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| Manji | Feb 8 2009, 03:39 AM Post #14 |
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Um, this is probably rather mean... but I think it's such a cop-out when people do an overly popular cosplay AND/OR and incredbily easy (as in no effort involved) cosplay. Popular being... "I've seen this character 5 times already." Who really wants to see the entire cast of Naruto AGAIN? Be original!! Incredibly easy being characters like "L" from Death Note where all you need is jeans, a white shirt, and eye liner. Then suck on your thumb. Woohooo. OR cosplaying "such and such" member from Organization XIII from Kingdom Hearts 'cause all you need is a black robe with a different wig for each character.  So yeah, that's really it for me. I'm such an ass. 
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| kuni_izumi | Feb 8 2009, 04:04 AM Post #15 |
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XD OH I feel the same way a lot Manji. I mean I don't like to be down on someone for picking a popular character, but sometimes if a person is overly done you DO need to go a bit above and beyond to make an impact. People who don't look anything in the slightest like L should probably leave it to people who do. I mean if you DO look JUST LIKE THE CHARACTER...go for it. But sometimes there are some really lack-luster attempts at popular or easy cosplay. You can usually intuitively tell if the person didn't put any real effort into it. |
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| Brizz | Feb 8 2009, 05:40 AM Post #16 |
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Oh gawd, I know what you mean. Last year when I attended a festival EVERYONE was Naruto or Sasuke or L or Misa (I swear I saw at least 3 L's and 5 Misa's) and don't even get me started on those "wanna be" Naruto cosplayers in poorly made Amatsuki uniforms. GAH. ...And that's probably why I hate when Anime gets licensed and broadcasted on TV in the states. *sighs* But to get on the subject of "looking like" the character, I dunno, I guess it just depends on your idea of what cosplay is and how professional you want to be. I personally only pick young, cutesy and "on the short side" characters to cosplay, mainly becuase I think if I try to cosplay a tall, older character I'd look really silly. Plus I wouldn't think I did much justice to the character. |
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| kuni_izumi | Feb 8 2009, 03:51 PM Post #17 |
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In my 'perfect world' people would only cosplay characters that shared their body type (come on faces aren't fair, very few people will have a face just like a character, I'd never judge on that). HOWEVER: I am totally biased, and a lot of it stems from growing up in the greatest Los Angeles area where skinny = pretty and fat = ugly by default, and it doesn't matter what kind of person you are or how you live your life. OBVIOUSLY I'm not THAT biased but years and years of programing to that kind of opinion sometimes makes me go WHAT ARE YOU THINKING when plus sized people cosplay super skinny characters (and to be fair, aren't they ALL super skinny?) with ridiculous skimpy outfits. It makes it me feel AWFUL to think it because most of the very important people in my life are overweight (like my mother for example, that's how important) but then a lot of plus sized cosplayers (this is America land of super obesity apparently) make some of the BEST QUALITY and BEST DETAILED costumes I've EVER SEEN. O_o So I wonder if that's a topic for it's own thread...it's not really a peeve it's most of a guilty admission of horrible judgementalness. I dunno I guess it comes down to if you're a good costumer you can get away with anything. wtf was I saying? Sorry guys I'm really really sick right now. ;_; I shouldn't be allowed near keyboards. |
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| Manji | Feb 9 2009, 02:53 AM Post #18 |
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Hmmm. Don't worry Kuni, I am one to not bottle up my opinions either. What you're saying isn't very harsh and you're only sharing your honest thoughts. You do really have admire some of the more overweight cosplayers though. At least they are obviously comfortable with their bodies. It's terrible, but they are subjected to more criticism than thinner cosplayers. I dunno if you've ever seen some of those "worst cosplay" sites, but they usually feature the heftier people. It's really low that people would target others just because of their weight. I personally try not to judge. I really don't see cosplay as looking like a carbon copy of the character. I really do feel it's more about the costume and presentation of it, regardless of someone's body type. No one should be excluded because of their size. Now, I know my thoughts must seem very idealistic, but I am not immune to flawed thinking either. Of course I slip up and make my own judgments about other cosplayers at times. And of course I feel awful about it to... I'm only human afterall, filled with contradictory thoughts. |
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| ChibiGingi | Feb 9 2009, 04:03 AM Post #19 |
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Well, no offense you all of you folks, as I do respect your opinion. But it's things like these that actually make me terrified to cosplay again. I'm much more lax when it comes to that, and I guess that would make me one of those people that would be on your pet peeve list. I can respect that, though... you guys are serious business, and I admire that. My pet peeves are few. The only peeve I have a real issue with when good, quality costumes and good cosplayers are overlooked and passed over for POPULAR or MEME-based ones. Granted I'm not that great when it comes to making a costume, so I can respect when someone puts a LOT of effort into their costume. I don't attend or participate in cosplays shows much anymore because I'm still scarred by a bad experience when it came to bias judging. I'd never win a contest, I'll accept that, but to see other great cosplayers get overlooked just because someone else did something that was popular? Ugh... maybe -I- need to learn not to take cosplay shows seriously and just enjoy it. I can't help it if I'm competitive, even when I'm no involved. |
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| kuni_izumi | Feb 9 2009, 12:51 PM Post #20 |
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Manji: You know often times worse than someone who is overweight and makes obvious correcting/compensation to their outfit for it is people who are not overweight but not in shape and do like...stomach revealing costumes that turn into muffin tops when the character has rock hard abs. I'd totally build in a tummy control panel or buy underwear that has it and then use a flesh colored panel over the tummy I could airbrush abs onto. BAM flat tummy and abs, no muffin top. Not THAT much more work when you consider the outfit as a whole. ChibiGingi: XD yeah but I'm a super perfectionist which means even with my own costumes I'm never happy. You'd probably laugh your butt off watching me try to find non-synthetic fabrics for historical costuming at the local Joann's (the ONLY fabric/sewing/hobby chain in the USA I SWEAR). But your peeve is a very good one. It's sad when someone's hard work goes totally unnoticed because they're not a main character or from something popular. For example: And artist on DA I really like called Pu'sama cosplayed as Schrodinger the little werewolf from Hellsing who ONLY APPEARS IN THE MANGA and people at the Hellsing gathering she went to Anime Expo in southern California kept saying she WASN'T A HELLSING CHARACTER. @_@ RIDICULOUS! |
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| acktosh | Feb 11 2009, 04:57 AM Post #21 |
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i guess this is my peeve. think it's somewhat in the same direction as you guys. we all know that this is a hobby. granted some of us takes it more seriously than others, but ultimately it's meant to be something pleasurable at the end of the day. of course in many cases our appearance or body frame may not be similar to the characters we respect and want to portray, but i think most importantly it's the amount of effort we put into the details that gives ourselves pride in our work and can say that we've done our best? what i find really disturbing is, yes, some cosplayers may have more refined features than others, but i do not think cosplay means putting on a costume, striking the typical pose and looking pretty. yes, of course if your character IS supposed to be pretty, then maybe a bit more work in the make-up dept may help(or some post-editing with photoshop). but lately i've found some cosplayers overdoing it with photoshop; virtual plastic surgeons even. immersing yourself into the character is one thing. it is a hobby. there is no need to drastically change your jawline. if the character is gritty, he/she shouldn't look pretty. |
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| kuni_izumi | Feb 11 2009, 12:54 PM Post #22 |
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You know akctosh, I agree--I'd rather see a barely touched or non-touched photo that one manipulated to all hell. We know there are physical limitations so what a person can do with their face--just let it BE so that some poor sap who doesn't realize it's manipulated does freak out because you look better than them. I have a friend who was a GREAT Reno from FFVIII, but she ran into this even MORE amazing Reno (in person at least) and was so disheartened she gave up on it. Le'suck. This is why, unless you're competing, you should really try not to compare yourself. I'm sure that Reno didn't mean to ruin it for her. |
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| acktosh | Feb 11 2009, 04:10 PM Post #23 |
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kuni_izumi: i agree. that is not all though. i have heard of cases of cosplayers going for plastic surgery in order to cosplay better. oO; |
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| Nutella | Feb 11 2009, 05:10 PM Post #24 |
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@ acktosh: That's new... Never heard of that before. Though it does come to mind *coughliposuctioncough* |
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| acktosh | Feb 11 2009, 05:46 PM Post #25 |
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nutella: what i knew of were just nose and lip jobs... liposuction, i'm not so sure. which brings me to another issue: because of these cosplayers over-emphasizing on how pretty they must look on photos, newbies get the wrong idea of how a good cosplay attempt should be. being pretty. |
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