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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,973,006 Views)
ChibiGingi
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What I want... is Sun Jian's wife, and for the pettiest of reasons.

I want a stage where she runs around beating up various Wu peeps trying to get to Quan and Zhou Yu because they're marrying her precious baby girl to that old fart from Shu.

THAT I want to see or play so bad.

I mean, good luck taking Wu seriously after that, but I'd love to see that.

But seriously, petty reason and I can live without it ever being a thing.

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Yinping has a tiny ass and you know it


I dunno, I remember her artbook art being very focused on Dat Ancient Chinese Ass.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Mon May 4, 2015 5:55 am.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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>people shitting on my girls
Get out. GET OUT O F MY HOUSE

Also, Zhurong, Zhenji, Yueying, Wenji, and Chunhua have rockin' asses.
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Rance
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They're probably better off recasting SSX as a not-Shu-benevolence-blower.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Zhenji in particular. Christ almighty...
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DMRevolution
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I want Sun Jian's wife to be Maggie Cheung
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Eni
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Mewshuji
Mon May 4, 2015 5:56 am
>people shitting on my girls
Get out. GET OUT O F MY HOUSE
This is why you need better taste.
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Wild Lion
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Mewshuji
Mon May 4, 2015 5:56 am
>people shitting on my girls
Get out. GET OUT O F MY HOUSE

Also, Zhurong, Zhenji, Yueying, Wenji, and Chunhua have rockin' asses.
Zhurong MAYBE, because it's hanging out.

The others? Nah. Need some meat on them bones.
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Eni
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Japan can't do butts, look at DoA.

Only tatas.
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ChibiGingi
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Mon May 4, 2015 5:56 am
They're probably better off recasting SSX as a not-Shu-benevolence-blower.
Yeah, having her not swoon all over Liu Bei and become utterly useless outside of clinging to his arm would be really, really nice.

I miss the days of DW5, where... it was there, but it wasn't like... the only thing she did.

Oh SSX, you deserve better.
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Wild Lion
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Mon May 4, 2015 5:57 am
Japan can't do butts, look at DoA.

Only tatas.
They'll evolve eventually, and see the light.

Ass is hometown.
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Katatonia
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Yueying does have a nice ass though. Zhurong, too. She's a knockout all around
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Humble Novice
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ChibiGingi
Mon May 4, 2015 5:47 am
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Mon May 4, 2015 5:43 am
Meh, I learned to not care about Musou female reveals. So whatever.
I'm more or less indifferent to them, so long as they're not a hodgepodge of different ideas that failed to form into a single cohesive individual like Naotora.

It was like, they wanted to cover as many of their female arch types in one character, threw it in a blend, hit spin but forgot to put the lid on it so she's just all of the place with 'whatevenwheretheythinking' drooping from the walls.

You can't have someone who's meek and timid and afraid/apologetic of hurting people and blushing when you look up her barely hanging on dress and then give her the most brutal looking moveset in the entire game.

Being all meek and gomenasai when you scissor kick a man's intestines out is just... no, you're not sorry at all! You're a psycho!
Gee, I'd hate to get you started on some of the female characters in Blast (e.g. Xiahouji, Fan Yufeng). And hey, let's be grateful Naotora isn't someone else's wife or lover because that seems to be the main schtick for most of the old DW and SW characters these days.
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Rance
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ChibiGingi
Mon May 4, 2015 5:58 am
Rance
Mon May 4, 2015 5:56 am
They're probably better off recasting SSX as a not-Shu-benevolence-blower.
Yeah, having her not swoon all over Liu Bei and become utterly useless outside of clinging to his arm would be really, really nice.

I miss the days of DW5, where... it was there, but it wasn't like... the only thing she did.

Oh SSX, you deserve better.
Dw5 SSX was great. Not only did they perfect her design but she also was a good character with a really dramatic finish.

It all went south from there.
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Naotora is my lover.
Mew's wife, my lover.
Edited by Mr. Kamikaze, Mon May 4, 2015 6:03 am.
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Wild Lion
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That's what happens when you endlessly remake the same game over and over.

Even if you get something perfect in the last game, you have to change it in the next one because if you don't nobody will see a reason to buy the new one because it's too similar.

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ChibiGingi
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Mon May 4, 2015 5:59 am
ChibiGingi
Mon May 4, 2015 5:47 am
Eni
Mon May 4, 2015 5:43 am
Meh, I learned to not care about Musou female reveals. So whatever.
I'm more or less indifferent to them, so long as they're not a hodgepodge of different ideas that failed to form into a single cohesive individual like Naotora.

It was like, they wanted to cover as many of their female arch types in one character, threw it in a blend, hit spin but forgot to put the lid on it so she's just all of the place with 'whatevenwheretheythinking' drooping from the walls.

You can't have someone who's meek and timid and afraid/apologetic of hurting people and blushing when you look up her barely hanging on dress and then give her the most brutal looking moveset in the entire game.

Being all meek and gomenasai when you scissor kick a man's intestines out is just... no, you're not sorry at all! You're a psycho!
Gee, I'd hate to get you started on some of the female characters in Blast (e.g. Xiahouji, Fan Yufeng). And hey, let's be grateful Naotora isn't someone else's wife or lover because that seems to be the main schtick for most of the old DW and SW characters these days.
I just think she's a mess and nothing about her matches anything else. She's meek, but fights like she's out for savage blood. She dresses like a woman who's got the goods and wants to show it off, but acts all shy and blushes when people look at her boobs or butt. As far as her story goes, she DOES get better in the whole getting courage and toughening up, but... she's like, they wanted to have three different kinds of characters that were polar opposites and just flubbed the whole thing up.

Keep the whole shy/meek/polite thing, but maybe make her moveset more fitting?

As for her outfit, it seems like it's something someone else TOLD her to wear or someone else dressed her, as opposed to her deciding to wear that outfit herself. That's why Bayonetta gets kudos to me, because she's the type of person that dresses herself, whereas Naotora, it literally feels like she's uncomfortable in her own outfit and really, really wishes Mr. Director man would let her put more clothes on instead of being told to fight in this.

... Did that make any sense?

It'd be like if Zhu Rong dressed like she did and then got all 'oh no, someone looked at meeeeeeeeee, megasuperblush-ugu'.
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Wild Lion
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You mean like how cosplay girls are when they go outside in a string and fig leaves and complain when someone comments on her goods? :lol:
Edited by Wild Lion, Mon May 4, 2015 6:08 am.
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Rance
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:03 am
That's what happens when you endlessly remake the same game over and over.

Even if you get something perfect in the last game, you have to change it in the next one because if you don't nobody will see a reason to buy the new one because it's too similar.

It's true. Deep down, to be honest, I kind of want Koei to move on.

I'm a massive three kingdoms fan, but they can only do so many angles with the same characters and setting. Unless they totally reinvent the wheel in terms of how they present the subject, like they did with Kessen 2, I feel like DW will only get more and more stale.
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That's always been my vibe about Naotora, she looks like someone's forced her to dress like that and she doesn't like it. it's creepy
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ChibiGingi
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:07 am
You mean like how cosplay girls are when they go outside in a string and fig leaves and complain when someone comments on her goods? :lol:
YES. EXACTLY.

Not saying they should be fondled or touched, of course, but people are going to look.

And hopefully, those people looking can admire in silence and not get themselves in trouble or sexually assault the cosplayer.

Edit: Moveset wise I love Naotora, but just... everything else about her just makes me want to grab whoever designed her and just punch them repeatedly in the face.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Mon May 4, 2015 6:11 am.
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I feel ya Chibi. I still love Nao but she really is a hot mess of conflicting character ideals.

That's different Lion, entirely. If that's the character they're fond of and wanna show love by cosplaying, but the character doesn't have a less revealing alt, well, that doesn't give you a ticket to catcall them. Cosplay=/=consent. Ever.
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Rance
Mon May 4, 2015 6:09 am
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:03 am
That's what happens when you endlessly remake the same game over and over.

Even if you get something perfect in the last game, you have to change it in the next one because if you don't nobody will see a reason to buy the new one because it's too similar.

It's true. Deep down, to be honest, I kind of want Koei to move on.

I'm a massive three kingdoms fan, but they can only do so many angles with the same characters and setting. Unless they totally reinvent the wheel in terms of how they present the subject, like they did with Kessen 2, I feel like DW will only get more and more stale.
Yeah Koei's Musou strategy is no good at all and will hit a brick wall very soon if they don't make a big change in DW9.

Kat: That's a big thing in Japanese porn I think, whole shy girl being forced to be a ho. They love to see women crying, sqeaking, hiding her face... pretty much act like abused children.

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Actually canonically she WAS kinda forced to wear what she's wearing. Her grandpa gave her the armor claiming it was an old family heirloom. The game makes it out like she's naive for believing that as it's quite literally shiny new armor.
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ChibiGingi
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It's human nature to look, but yeah, that should be as far as it goes. Shoot, I take a certain route to work just to see hot, shirtless guys jogging down the street, but I don't wolf whistle or say anything. I just watch them go by and think to myself 'this is a good route to work'.

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Actually canonically she WAS kinda forced to wear what she's wearing. Her grandpa gave her the armor claiming it was an old family heirloom. The game makes it out like she's naive for believing that as it's quite literally shiny new armor.


I... think I missed that conversation then. Damn, I feel bad for her now. Naotora, slap your grandfather.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Mon May 4, 2015 6:15 am.
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A big thing among otaku culture in Japan and among a lot of men who consume porn there IS the ideal of defiling something pure and keeping it to yourself. They **** shame women horribly, but on the flipside, treat virginal women like goddesses. It's kinda creepy.
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