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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,973,003 Views)
Katatonia
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I wanna go :lol:
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If that IS yunlu..dw9 might be closer. If it closer then the revamp might be quite far from now... :whistle:
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Wild Lion
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I think it's just some fanart from Pixiv or something.

None of the other Blast characters got that kind of artwork afaik, just the cards, and there's no way DW9 artwork would leak before news of the actual game leaked. Especially not a picture that clean and crisp.
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Rance
Mon May 4, 2015 6:38 am
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:34 am
Also I never compared it to rape. I meant touching the tiddy without asking.

And I agree Kami, life would be better if we were all pudding pigs.
Touching somebody else in that fashion is called groping, and it's an actual offense of the law.

That's completely different from making comments such as "wow, you're hot," "nice tits," "dat ass," etc.

It has nothing to do with gender either. If a guy were to cosplay as some blatantly campy, gay character from a video game wearing a speedo/underwear, he could damn well expect people to comment on his body rather than on how well he emulates the character.
Catcalling is also an offense of the law, in many places.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/10/29/catcalling-women-on-the-street-isnt-just-offensive-its-also-often-illegal/
And yes, saying "nice tits" unprompted (attire is NOT a prompt) is catcalling. Also I don't think men should be subject to such treatment either.

If you want to compliment a cosplayer, compliment THEIR COSTUME. If you want to hit on someone, show some class and make sure they're open to it first.

Don't say anything to a cosplayer you wouldn't say to someone wearing a t-shirt and jeans, unless it's something like complimenting their construction work.

DMRevolution
Mon May 4, 2015 6:40 am
Rance
Mon May 4, 2015 6:38 am
That's completely different from making comments such as "wow, you're hot," "nice tits," "dat ass," etc.
Sometimes people forget that some like those compliments
So because some people appreciate it, this means the majority of people that don't should have to suffer?

Honestly, as I consider you guys friends, I'm not going to pull my punches: I'm appalled you all think this way.

Like... I know this one girl I follow on twitter has decided she's no longer going to do skimpy cosplays in public because she's too pissed off by and scared of creepy guys.

I don't think that's fair at all. Why should she have to limit her choices because some guys can't help but think they're entitled to someone else's body?
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:27 am
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:23 am
To me that's a step down from blaming a girl for getting molested, and I'm not for that. You can't control others' comments, but others should be respectful enough to not say things they should know will make others uncomfortable.
You don't have a right to not be uncomfortable, or to not be offended.

That's just life. You can't live in a hugbox. People are going to say things you don't like and don't agree with, and you have to learn how to deal with it and move on.

That's why the internet is so bad for kids these days. They can literally block any dissenting opinions from theirs and sit in a little echo chamber with only people who agree with them, NEVER having their thoughts or preconceptions challenged and grow up with no way to deal with it when real life hits them.
Yup. This is reality. :goodpost:
Mewshuji
Mon May 4, 2015 6:29 am
I just think women should be respected. I don't see what's hard to get about that.
This is why I respect Mew so much. Unless certain women make trouble and media exposes that ****.
Rance
Mon May 4, 2015 6:32 am
If you show off your tits, dick, ass, vagina, whatever, you can't expect other people not to comment on it.
Yeah. People who actually saw these body parts talk harshly to those who posts pictures of those body parts. I can't believe someone in deviantART actually posted a link of her photo of her vagina in one of my Rinmaru creations, and majority told her to **** off and don't post the links [again] since they either don't care or are disgusted to see it. Said person deactivated her dA or the staff itself banned her for the vagina pictures she had.
Wild Lion
Mon May 4, 2015 6:34 am
You don't get to control how other people act Mew.
Another thing in reality that must be accepted. Even though it hurts.
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:48 am
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:43 am
Wild Lion
Mon May 4, 2015 6:40 am
I'm going to a convention at the end of the month in a full spandex suit with my shirt off, if I get nasty comments it's totally going to be because I was wearing something crazy.
I'll have pudding. Clean your chest, wax if you have to.
Why clean it if you're not going to eat it? :lol:

Rance: Hopefully someone will save me from the deadly words they will surely fling in my direction like verbal ninja stars!
Because we scrape it off and feed it to someone else, Mr. Lion!

Gosh!
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And the thing is- cons and the websites you go to SHOULD be safe spaces for one to express their identity as the rest of the world IS crap. "Hugboxes", contrary to popular opinion, are healthy when used properly.

Obviously sometimes dissenting opinions are needed. But when it comes to showing people respect, just do it.
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Katatonia
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:52 am
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:38 am
Mewshuji
Mon May 4, 2015 6:34 am
Also I never compared it to rape. I meant touching the tiddy without asking.

And I agree Kami, life would be better if we were all pudding pigs.
Touching somebody else in that fashion is called groping, and it's an actual offense of the law.

That's completely different from making comments such as "wow, you're hot," "nice tits," "dat ass," etc.

It has nothing to do with gender either. If a guy were to cosplay as some blatantly campy, gay character from a video game wearing a speedo/underwear, he could damn well expect people to comment on his body rather than on how well he emulates the character.
Catcalling is also an offense of the law, in many places.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/10/29/catcalling-women-on-the-street-isnt-just-offensive-its-also-often-illegal/
And yes, saying "nice tits" unprompted (attire is NOT a prompt) is catcalling. Also I don't think men should be subject to such treatment either.

If you want to compliment a cosplayer, compliment THEIR COSTUME. If you want to hit on someone, show some class and make sure they're open to it first.

Don't say anything to a cosplayer you wouldn't say to someone wearing a t-shirt and jeans, unless it's something like complimenting their construction work.

DMRevolution
Mon May 4, 2015 6:40 am
Rance
Mon May 4, 2015 6:38 am
That's completely different from making comments such as "wow, you're hot," "nice tits," "dat ass," etc.
Sometimes people forget that some like those compliments
So because some people appreciate it, this means the majority of people that don't should have to suffer?

Honestly, as I consider you guys friends, I'm not going to pull my punches: I'm appalled you all think this way.

Like... I know this one girl I follow on twitter has decided she's no longer going to do skimpy cosplays in public because she's too pissed off by and scared of creepy guys.

I don't think that's fair at all. Why should she have to limit her choices because some guys can't help but think they're entitled to someone else's body?
Because if you're too thin-skinned to take the heat, go sit in the shade.

And who out there is "suffering" from a comment from a stranger? Don't you think that's a little overdramatic? If you have the confidence to show off your body, then you should have the confidence to not let a few measly words have an effect on you.

And body IS a part of a costume. You have to have the right body to look the part, and working on your body is the same thing as working on a piece of cloth. Your bodyfat or your muscle mass or your skin tone is the same thing as the stitching, the fabric choice or the color coordination of your outfit. Hair and makeup as well. If you can criticize one part of a costume, why can't you criticize or comment on them all?

If you made an outstanding piece of clothing, but didn't bother to get in shape for the part, then you half-assed that costume, no way around it.

Are you going to say that tits are not an INTEGRAL part of an Ivy Valentine costume? Then what's the difference between saying "nice boots!" and "nice boobs!" in that context?

But I don't even care about that context, that was just for you. Like I said before, you can't control how other people act and I find it wrong that you would want to. I consider it the exact same thing as wanting to control what other people wear.

Wear what you want, say what you want, and other people can say what they want about what you wear and they can look how they want and you can comment on that too.

Edited by Wild Lion, Mon May 4, 2015 7:02 am.
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tmma1869
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:56 am
Obviously sometimes dissenting opinions are needed. But when it comes to showing people respect, just do it.
Yeah. No one respects opinions of others nowadays. I hate people who do those. Especially when one dislikes someone and thinks fans of that person he dislikes also suck. Kinda crab mentality-ish, mind you.
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Oh, so that's why my friend isn't online.

She's having fun at an arcade somewhere in Japan.

...

I am immensely jelly.
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jelly.

Also gross.
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Verbal abuse is still abuse. Sure a single "compliment" like that isn't going to cause longterm trauma, but going to a con with a costume you worked on for months only to receive catcalls with the occasional actual compliment on the costume? I don't think that's right.

And I guess that's the disconnect- I don't feel one's body is part of a costume. I think a fat girl should be able to dress as Sailor Moon without getting **** for it. I think a short guy should be able to cosplay as Hagrid if he wants to. So, no, I don't feel a woman having large boobs is important to cosplay. A body is not a prop.

And not a single "professional" cosplay contest judges based on the person's body, by the by. Only on the costume itself.

And it's not controlling other's words, it's asking them to be polite. Even if it is controlling other's words... why would you want to say such a gross thing anyway? Why would someone feel so entitled to another's body? Because that's what it is.
In any case I think it's clear we're at an impasse. Neither of us are budging and I'm someone who gets very invested in others' well beings so this has tired me out. I didn't even realize how long this argument has been going on for. I'm tired, I'm done with this conversation, and I'm going to bed.
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Mon May 4, 2015 7:11 am.
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And yes, saying "nice tits" unprompted (attire is NOT a prompt) is catcalling. Also I don't think men should be subject to such treatment either.


No it isn't. The very link that you posted says that the law prohibits "someone from making alarming or seriously annoying comments to you at least twice (both violations: a $250 fine and/or up to 15 days in jail)."

The website also states that New York prohibits "obscene language or gestures in a public place."

If somebody says "Nice tits" (or "nice jugs" or "nice boobs" if tits is considered obscene language by the retarded state of New York) a single time, it is perfectly legal. If they continue to follow the woman and bombard her with statements, then it constitutes harassment.

You can be appalled all you want. My "morality" ends when it starts infringing on freedom of speech.
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UGH I HATED THIS BRAVELY DEFAULT BOSS BEFORE AND STILL HATE IT.

SO ANNOYING.
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:52 am
I think it's just some fanart from Pixiv or something.

None of the other Blast characters got that kind of artwork afaik, just the cards, and there's no way DW9 artwork would leak before news of the actual game leaked. Especially not a picture that clean and crisp.
Oh well Zhenji's design got leaked before in dw8. It's quite clear too.
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Mon May 4, 2015 7:14 am
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:52 am
I think it's just some fanart from Pixiv or something.

None of the other Blast characters got that kind of artwork afaik, just the cards, and there's no way DW9 artwork would leak before news of the actual game leaked. Especially not a picture that clean and crisp.
Oh well Zhenji's design got leaked before in dw8. It's quite clear too.
got a link for lazy people?
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Of course I was going to bed but the drier with my sheets isn't done running. Ho hum.
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its hard to do this sleep thing

how does one even

i do want i want, noobs
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Mon May 4, 2015 7:15 am
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Wild Lion
Mon May 4, 2015 6:52 am
I think it's just some fanart from Pixiv or something.

None of the other Blast characters got that kind of artwork afaik, just the cards, and there's no way DW9 artwork would leak before news of the actual game leaked. Especially not a picture that clean and crisp.
Oh well Zhenji's design got leaked before in dw8. It's quite clear too.
got a link for lazy people?
Removed already though...it's in baidu once.
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I really want to drop the subject.
But ... I'm not sure free speech should be a free pass to say something that could cause someone harm or doubt their worth.

Maybe I'm too soft or considerate of others. Maybe I need to be harder and less caring. I'm not even being sarcastic, I'm seriously wondering that.
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Mon May 4, 2015 6:52 am
I think it's just some fanart from Pixiv or something.

None of the other Blast characters got that kind of artwork afaik, just the cards, and there's no way DW9 artwork would leak before news of the actual game leaked. Especially not a picture that clean and crisp.
Oh well Zhenji's design got leaked before in dw8. It's quite clear too.
got a link for lazy people?
Removed already though...it's in baidu once.
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Mon May 4, 2015 7:20 am
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French Overlord
Mon May 4, 2015 7:15 am
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Wild Lion
Mon May 4, 2015 6:52 am
I think it's just some fanart from Pixiv or something.

None of the other Blast characters got that kind of artwork afaik, just the cards, and there's no way DW9 artwork would leak before news of the actual game leaked. Especially not a picture that clean and crisp.
Oh well Zhenji's design got leaked before in dw8. It's quite clear too.
got a link for lazy people?
Removed already though...it's in baidu once.
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just so you know, seeing that reaction gif makes me unimaginably happy and I'd like to thank you for bringing a smile to my face.

Seriously.

I could kiss you.
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