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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,972,781 Views)
Rance
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I know. I just felt like adding my retarded input.

Hideyori is such a loser in history that even if he was the product of the most lascivious scandal imaginable, like Tokugawa Ieyasu masturbating on a rag and Chacha finding that rag and using it to get pregnant, I wouldn't really care.
Edited by Rance, Tue Jun 9, 2015 5:41 am.
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Ryō Genken
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Nobuyuki's hait is originally black. It's all because of Yukimura that he become like Marie Antoinette stressed syndrome that turn all of his hair into white.
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Nuriko
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Besides like Mew said Kami it is entirely possible Hideyoshi was Sterile,Considering how many wives and concubines he had and only TWO children,BOTH of which are from a woman believed to be unfaithful? It is possible not only from KOEI's standpoint but from a historical one as well
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Tue Jun 9, 2015 5:37 am
That was directed at Kami Rance hun n.n
Uh huh and Koei has QUITE often hinted at the various Rumors before Kami(the Kenshin being a woman rumor and the Kenshin and Aya Shacking up rumor seem to be the most commonly used thou)
Those aren't "rumors" they are things the fanbase decided to interpret a certain way.

Like Li Dian's sexuality. Aya and Kenshin's incestuous relationship.

Not all those interpretations are totally off base, either, but that's all they are.

The only things Koei has included were hints at popular historical theories, like Kenshin being a woman (which is not AS touched on in SW as it is in SB). Or Mitsuhide surviving past Yamazaki.

Hideyori being Mitsunari's bastard son is not one of those...that's just some head canon created just now.
Dynasty Girl
Tue Jun 9, 2015 5:46 am
Besides like Mew said Kami it is entirely possible Hideyoshi was Sterile,Considering how many wives and concubines he had and only TWO children,BOTH of which are from a woman believed to be unfaithful? It is possible not only from KOEI's standpoint but from a historical one as well
That's a historical discussion anyone can have and that's fine.

I am talking about the games.
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Nuriko
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I didn't head canon it up just now I've seen SEVERAL people suggest such on the Hideyori character thread Kami,MY Head canon is my Sig,try again
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Mr. Kamikaze
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not gonna "try again" =/

We're not playing 20 Questions

I said what I wanted to say...
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Nuriko
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Try again is just my phrase when my argument has completely blown the other person's out of the water Kami it doesn't mean I'm actually asking you to try again lol
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Your argument was "I saw other people saying it"

But that's fine. Hideyori isn't worth this kind of discussion anyway, he's a poop. No one like poop!
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Nuriko
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Tbh I haven't heard of the Mitsuhide surviving one used in SW before,in Basara I have thou* coughtenkeicough*
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Rance
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Mitsunari was slandered to hell and back after the Tokugawa took over the land. It had to be done because the Tokugawa needed to shore up support and silence any potential opposition to their regime. Japan had been roughly split in half around Sekigahara. Overall, the Tokugawa had the stronger position and probably had more support. However, Mitsunari's coalition had still been a decent threat.

There's all kinds of rumors about Mitsunari and most of them are probably total bull****. He was rumored to be behind every foul scheme in the Toyotomi government, rumored to be Hideyori's father, rumored to be behind the purge of Hidetsugu and even rumored to have been behind the death of the celebrated tea master Sen No Rikyu because Mitsunari was allegedly upset at Sen No Rikyu's lenient political views. Even the whole story of Mitsunari drinking Yoshitsugu's pus and then having a steamy leprosexual relationship with him might have just been Tokugawa tabloid.

Now, it is possible that many of these stories are true. It's also very probable that they were devised after Mitsunari had died, however, in order to smear the hell out of him. I don't think that Hideyori was Mitsunari's son, personally. It's a good story, but it seems like something that would have been fabricated out of convenience in order to tar the legitimacy of Hideyoshi's successor and add more grist to the Mitsunari rumor mill.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Yeah in the games Hideyori is gonna be Hideyoshi's son. Still, fandom is a fun thing, you're free to spin off and come up with your own ideas.

... Like Kami's crazy idea that Kasuga is in love with Sasuke.
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Nuriko
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I kind of like Hideyori tbh Kami I'd like to see him in a mainstream game,he reminds me a bit of Guo Jia lol
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Ryō Genken
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Not as crazy as wanting to pair Taki with ranmaru though.
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tmma1869
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I like Hideyori basically because of his VA. Same reason I like Ieyasu's Geten no Hana portrayal best. Kenshō Ono and Kuroko FTW

For some reason Coffee loves to bark at my father :o
Edited by tmma1869, Tue Jun 9, 2015 6:11 am.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Mewshuji
Tue Jun 9, 2015 6:03 am


... Like Kami's crazy idea that Kasuga is in love with Sasuke.


That's because she is, Mew. Like madly in love.

Dynasty Girl
Tue Jun 9, 2015 6:04 am
I kind of like Hideyori tbh Kami I'd like to see him in a mainstream game,he reminds me a bit of Guo Jia lol


I want to see him in the game, too.
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Ryō Genken
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Sasuke did have a crush on her but one-sided., Kami. So it'll take a guts for Sasuke to say his feelings for her.
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Nuriko
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Just like Ieyasu being kind and good natured is a myth doesn't prevent Koei from using it XD Seriously thou I'm legitimately curious which SW game hints Mitsuhide survived? I've seen it used in Basara but not SW
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Tue Jun 9, 2015 6:00 am
Tbh I haven't heard of the Mitsuhide surviving one used in SW before,in Basara I have thou* coughtenkeicough*
SW3 had it, I believe in Mitsuhide's story or Ieyasu's or both.

Ieyasu finds Mitsuhide living in a hut in the jungle and convinces him to join the Eastern Army at Sekigahara. Or something along those lines.

It was a while ago...and SW3 hurt me physically.
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Nuriko
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Weird I must have skipped that part x.x I like the rumors and hidden goodies as you can I'm sure I would have noticed that in an instant
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ChibiGingi
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And just like that, everyone's gone and changed their names again on Gaia. Holy. Balls. I quit that place.
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Nuriko
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I wish SW Kenshin was Basara Kenshin,Basara Kenshin is pure awesomeness
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Katatonia
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*peeks in* ok, going to bed. Be on your best behaviors, people :heart:
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Nuriko
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Basara Hanbei is 50/50 for me,love his look hate his personality.if either Hanbei looked like Basara Hanbei but had SW Hanbei's personality I would so fangirl over him
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Sasuke doesn't have a crush on her either really. He apparently thinks of her as a little sister.
http://www.raindropsanddaydreams.co.uk/2015/06/news-roundup-few-miscellaneous-updates.html
This is canon.

SasuKasu = BROTP
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Tue Jun 9, 2015 6:29 am
*peeks in* ok, going to bed. Be on your best behaviors, people :heart:
Behave properly on your bed too dear. Don't play hard.
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