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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,972,518 Views)
Mr. Kamikaze
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dancingswan
Thu Jul 2, 2015 3:38 am
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There's another stage, but I have to raise some bonds to get it.
Yoshimoto finally getting his due justice

now I kinda feel like I should buy this game...
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Uesugi Kenshin
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http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa

This is disgusting.
I'm holding my judgement on getting the game or not until I see if Nintendo changes it in the localization, but as of right now, my hype for Fire Emblem Fates has completely died.
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dancingswan
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There's a story event called "Noboyuki's" Marriage. Is he getting married to Ino?
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Uesugi Kenshin
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"Hmm, how do we let you, the MU, romance the obviously coded lesbian?"
"...Make her bisexual and romanceable by both genders?"
"No, that's silly we already made not-Tharja bisexual! Date rape allegories and gay conversion therapy it is! Don't romance her at all as a woman!"
"Kay."

Someone rescuse Soleil, Foleo and Kagerou from this filthy game.
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DMRevolution
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I so want to do this.

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dancingswan
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I'll give you the magic powder thing coming off date rapey, but I'm not seeing gay conversion. She just wants to be able to stop fainting in front of pretty girls, nowhere in that translation does it say she wants to stop liking girls.

The S rank is a bit much.

I'm still buying the game though.
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DMRevolution
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This is totally Ae.

http://i.imgur.com/HzY8Jf1.webm
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dancingswan
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Caught me.
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dancingswan
Thu Jul 2, 2015 5:13 am
There's a story event called "Noboyuki's" Marriage. Is he getting married to Ino?
Wait isn't Ino married to Sai?
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Like if people think I'm overreacting, fine. But here's a summary of what happens, more or less if MaMU decides to romance Soleil.
http://lustfuldemoness.tumblr.com/post/123004418173/
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If you just… look at the facts of Kamui/Soliel, without any reaching or interpretation whatsoever, the events play out like this:

*Soliel confides that she’s 'weak to women' to Kamui, that she loves a certain type to the point of fainting (sure, what the **** ever)
*Kamui drugs Soliel’s drink without her permission to get her to see the Kamui as a woman, and train her to become less 'weak to women'
*Soliel falls in love with Kamui as a woman, in spite of not falling in love with any other man-seen-as-a-woman (in spite of the fact that that makes no sense)
*Soliel, who only grew attached to Kamui as a woman, admits that she’s still in love with him and agrees to marry after he proposes


Like if that doesn't reek of disgustingness, IDEK what to say.

I was so excited so excited to have a game where a male character wasn't treated as a walking joke for dressing like a girl. I was so excited to have a game where I can finally romance the type of character I like (both with Foleo and Kagerou) with no holds bars. I was SO excited to have a Japan-like fantasy setting made by an actual Japanese company rather than some sensationalized "BUSHIDO IS ERRYTHING" bull**** that western companies pump out.

But no.

No.

IS goes and does this.

Like maybe I'll calm down after a while and decide just to never go through with that option. But the fact that what is, in essence, date rape and gay conversion therapy, is an option for a supposed non-villainous main character is just ... I... akhfakfjafs
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DMRevolution
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM9s5cOKe8c

I wish I got scared like that.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Like you can buy the game swan, no one's stopping you and I'm not gonna like dislike you or anyone else who gets it for it or anything. There are plenty of good reasons to get FEF.

But for me personally this is too vile. I can't monetarily support such a thing.
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Thu Jul 2, 2015 5:55 am.
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Ryō Genken
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Dude if Soleil wants to go through gay conversion theraphy it's her choice. There are many people who are gay but because of their faith, they want to go through it. You CAN'T force them its their choice.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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I'll fold and admit MAYBE it's a stretch to call it that and MU isn't just tempering Soleil's over-attraction to girls that's literally making her faint (which is... whatever). But doing it through the use the powder, especially as the endgame is "i'm gonna sex up/marry this girl!", in of itself is gross and date-rapey.

And framing gay conversion therapy as anything but a vile, vile practice is pretty whack too. It's a proven scientific fact that gay people who go through such "therapy" have high rates of depression and suicide, even higher than those who never do.
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I'm sure this is going to receive a lot of negative criticisms, which hopefully Nintendo will hear for the localization and if Nintendo knows well enough they'll tone this down... way down. Especially if they want a T ESRB rating, which they will for sales.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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If I had a powder that could make lesbians fall in love me....

gurl

I've met some gorgeous lesbians and its totally unfair.
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Ryō Genken
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Well did Soleil ever tried to say I WANT TO BECOME STRAIGHT. That's important cause that exclamation alone means she WANTS to go through it.
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That's gross
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That's magic
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destroy.erase.improve

That party was lame. Off to the Barcade!
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Ryō Genken
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All i can see is they kept this cutscene. But reworked it as if Soleil WANTS to go through it...or just redo the whole things over.
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At least a good chunk of the fanbase seems to call it what it is, gross, and there's outcry for remodeling the entire support.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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or just redo the entire conversation so that its about flowers or something.
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Mewshuji
Thu Jul 2, 2015 5:09 am
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This is disgusting.
I'm holding my judgement on getting the game or not until I see if Nintendo changes it in the localization, but as of right now, my hype for Fire Emblem Fates has completely died.
Uh...you could just not do those supports?

Also, it's probably going to be completely changed in localization anyways.
Edited by Rance, Thu Jul 2, 2015 6:22 am.
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I have no idea what's going on and that's okay! *thumbs up*
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