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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,972,432 Views)
Nuriko
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lmao you and me both Chibi see my Sig that is my current Empires couple XD annoyed that it's only giving me daughters though
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LegendaryDragonWarrior
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Guan Yu is a good general
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Rance
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I'm not really sure what the deal was with Liu Bei though. He had a bunch of wives too, and I imagine he was probably screwing as much as the rest. However, for some reason (????) he was hardly able to have any kids. Sun Quan and Cao Cao seemed to do a lot better.
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I could write an essay on Guan Yu and my thoughts on him, but I'll refrain if only because I am REALLLLLLLLLY behind on this fanfic XD. He was a good general until he got cocky, then he went down, down, down, to Goblin Town.

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Sorry, one of the Hobbit movies is playing in the BG.

Edit: Liu Bei just didn't have the ambition, I guess.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Sun Jul 5, 2015 7:52 am.
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Katatonia
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Liu Bei just didn't have it in him.

..wait, that's not right! :o
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LegendaryDragonWarrior
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Gow was he got cocky?
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Rance
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Liu Bei's benevolence juice wasn't very potent or something.

Guan Yu was a so-so general in my opinion. He had a few obvious military accomplishments and several military defeats. Some groups of people claim that he's a god and some groups of people claim that he's a lousy shitter who never achieved anything. Both of those groups of people are wrong. He's somewhere in between.
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Sun Jul 5, 2015 7:54 am
Gow was he got cocky?
Maybe cocky isn't the correct word, but he certainly let some success go to his head towards the end there. Had he not been arrogant and maybe treated his neighbors with a little more respect (ie, not calling them dogs when Sun Quan offered a marriage proposal to his daughter. LIKE, he has every right to refuse, but he could have picked his words with a wee bit more tact? :doge: ), as well as his men, then maybe they wouldn't have turned on him?

Great man, up until the end. Seriously, dude needs to work on his people skills.
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LegendaryDragonWarrior
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Well , most of solider/generals treat their men badly in the army tho
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Maybe, but you have to have done something horribly wrong to make them turn on you like that.

Or maybe Lu Meng just came in and treated them all so much nicer and made Guan Yu look like a putz instead? Either way, treating people like dirt can have a nasty way of coming back and biting you on the butt, because when that 'greener on the other side' dude comes along, expect your cows to jump the fence and don't be surprised when they turn their horns on you.

Edit: Honestly, if Guan Yu didn't have such awesome children, I'd given up on him years ago.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Sun Jul 5, 2015 8:02 am.
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Rance
Sun Jul 5, 2015 7:54 am
Liu Bei's benevolence juice wasn't very potent or something.

Guan Yu was a so-so general in my opinion. He had a few obvious military accomplishments and several military defeats. Some groups of people claim that he's a god and some groups of people claim that he's a lousy shitter who never achieved anything. Both of those groups of people are wrong. He's somewhere in between.
And then these very group also raised his son, Ping as a god. And someone that never exists as a God, too. :shan:
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LegendaryDragonWarrior
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Or maybe Lu Meng gave them money to turn againt Guan Yu
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Nuriko
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Ping is trash all that needs be said on the subject,Chibi check your inbox
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Rance
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Guan Ping and Zhou Cang are a joke, but they're decent in the novel I guess.
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Sun Jul 5, 2015 8:03 am
Or maybe Lu Meng gave them money to turn againt Guan Yu
Maybe? 'Greener on the other side' can mean a LOT of things and being paid more would certainly do the trick in turning the tide.

But seriously, Lu Meng took full advantage of Guan Yu's mistreatment of Fu Shiren and Mi Fang to turn them against him and then proceeded to win the people of Jing Province with kindness. Whether he was sincere or merely playing an act, I can't say, but it worked like a charm.

I heard he even treated Guan Yu's wives nicely.

:innocent:

Edit: Reading it over, DG. Let my mind brew over it for a moment.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Sun Jul 5, 2015 8:09 am.
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Rance
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I heard he even treated Guan Yu's wives nicely.


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Katatonia
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Now I know how Lu Meng feels :kurokan:
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Nuriko
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no Rance not a "joke" he's "trash" don't make me spork you
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Rance
Sun Jul 5, 2015 8:06 am
Guan Ping and Zhou Cang are a joke, but they're decent in the novel I guess.
Guan Ping with Liu Feng won't be a joke, while Zhou Cang is always a joke. Yeah i actually like Guan Ping.
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Sun Jul 5, 2015 8:07 am
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I heard he even treated Guan Yu's wives nicely.


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Rance
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Sun Jul 5, 2015 8:08 am
no Rance not a "joke" he's "trash" don't make me spork you
I was agreeing with you.

Though I'll just as willingly call them garbage.
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Nuriko
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i don't dislike Guan Ping per se i dislike Guan Ping with Xingcai
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ChibiGingi
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I adore Guan Yinping and her existence is more than enough to justify Guan Yu's existence in the world to me.
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Nuriko
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chibi inbox lol and Ryo how do you feel about Sima family + Jia Chong?
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I'm reading, I'm reading. It's hard to think when my head is full of all of this delicious 'Lu Meng treating Guan Yu's wives nicely' going on in my head!
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