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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,971,713 Views)
Fräulein
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Wynter
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#YAAAS
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omg heechul and that new weave
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Eni
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dancingswan
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:42 pm
I've had enough of this Ieyasu slander. Bye.
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Always applies.
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Nuriko
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Pet monkey doesn't really fit Mitsunari,pet fox would be a better comparison Kami
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dancingswan
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I want to like Super Junior, but Leeteuk, Shindong and some other ones are still members.

I WANT ANOTHER SEASON OF NOBUNAGA CONCERTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i draw the line at comparing him to liu bei, i paint the line with one of those road painters, i chalk it with those chalk strings, i carve it onto my skin with a ritualistic dagger

its too far is what im saying
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Fräulein
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Oichi-focused spinoff pls.
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Eni
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Fräulein
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:45 pm
Rolling Chacha spinoff pls.
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It's so easy to conflate the novel and history. Liu Bei historically was a pretty average warlord. He was neither terrible nor some kind of benevolent hero. He was just...a warlord. Arguably he had a much better record in morality than the likes of Cao Cao and Sima Yi. Cao Cao committed massacres in Xu province versus Tao Qian while Sima Yi massacred the people of Liaodong after concluding his campaign against Gongsun Yuan. and if you want, I can find you a source for details of both. There is nothing comparably bad that Liu Bei did, imo. Yes he could be a **** at some times. I hate the way he treated Lü Bu when Bu surrendered. I also recall Liu Bei executing some people or throwing them in prison for flimsy reasons, but again, no massacres. The worst thing that Liu Bei did is engage in banditry. While not excusable, in some cases that may have been necessary for him and his pathetic forces to survive. Moreover, Yu Jin's biography reports that the Qingzhou soldiers which surrendered to Cao Cao were also guilty of this at one point, and Yu Jin even went so far as to attack them despite being Cao Cao's own troops.

"When the Yellow Turbans surrendered earlier on, they called themselves the soldiers of Qingzhou. As Cao Cao was too lenient with them, they started to get bold and began to cause trouble. They also committed robbery in a brazen and open manner. Yu Jin became very angry after he learn about the matter and said to his men, “Although the Qingzhou soldiers also serve under Lord Cao together with us, they dare to cause trouble by committing banditry.”

He then led his men to attack the Qingzhou soldiers and to denounce their crimes. The Qingzhou soldiers immediately ran to Cao Cao to make accusations against Yu Jin. When Yu Jin returned to base, he did not see Cao Cao immediately. He first ordered his troops to set up camp."

http://kongming.net/novel/sgz/yujin.php

So banditry wasn't uncommon for the times and Liu Bei was hardly alone in being guilty for it.

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I want more Hanbei eyebrows.
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Dynasty Girl
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:44 pm
Pet monkey doesn't really fit Mitsunari,pet fox would be a better comparison Kami
but foxes are cute and likeable, monkey suits him much bette,r he even dances when hideyoshi wants him to like a good moneky does.
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Eni
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BUT MONKEYS ARE CUTE TOO.
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Fräulein
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Chacha rolls through the whole series. She can't be stopped. Her journey is neverending.
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God of War
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The only fox for me
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Plot twist, Chacha is the one who betrayed Nobunaga at Honnoji.
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Eni
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:48 pm
BUT MONKEYS ARE CUTE TOO.
some of them also have red butts like mitsunari did after a nice night with yodo-dono
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Scottie
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:49 pm
Eni
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:48 pm
BUT MONKEYS ARE CUTE TOO.
some of them also have red butts like mitsunari did after a nice night with yodo-dono
...oh my... :itsuki:
Fräulein
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:48 pm
Chacha rolls through the whole series. She can't be stopped. Her journey is neverending.
Pretty much anime of the forever.
Edited by Eni, Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:49 pm.
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Like it or not Scottie the comparison to Liu Bei is accurate except Liu Bei is a cannibal which redeems him otherwise they'd both just be hypocrite garbage
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Scottie
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:49 pm
Eni
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:48 pm
BUT MONKEYS ARE CUTE TOO.
some of them also have red butts like mitsunari did after a nice night with yoshitsugu
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Eni
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dancingswan
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:49 pm
Scottie
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:49 pm
Eni
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:48 pm
BUT MONKEYS ARE CUTE TOO.
some of them also have red butts like mitsunari did after a nice night with yoshitsugu
That can't be healthy.
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don't kink shame eni
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:49 pm
Like it or not Scottie the comparison to Liu Bei is accurate except Liu Bei is a cannibal which redeems him otherwise they'd both just be hypocrite garbage
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Im glad that they all got enough singing and screen parts on the music video. Siwon, Leeteuk, Donghae and Eunhyuk still get the majority.

Yesung is still amazing, that ******g voice is just divine.
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dancingswan
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:51 pm
don't kink shame eni
:cry:
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:51 pm
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Me when people say Joseph isn't best JoJo.
Edited by Eni, Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:52 pm.
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I can't stand Yesung either

Save Siwon, Eunhyuk, Donghae, Heechul and Ryeowook.
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