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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,971,429 Views)
Rance
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Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:17 pm
Lmao I think I may have just pissed a lot of people off with what I said about Chacha in the" Characters you want to see in SW "thread lmao oops
well...it was kind of true...

I skimmed a bit, but it's pretty true that historians would only focus on women if they had an outsized influence or could be cast in some kind of horrific negative light.

All while ignoring the fact that the men were out committing massacres and destroying the country with their excessive wars.
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Angelic Linca
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But both of Oichi's husbands are playable. Why can't Chacha be for Hideyoshi alongside Nene.
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I HAD to say it Rance I HAD to they are all constantly saying how horrible my Wants to the series are when mine are every bit as valid as theirs so I took the Add they all have in common and tore her apart using facts n.n advice is don't go there lol I'll win EVERY TIME
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Rance
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Oichi didn't practice bigamy.

But yeah, I don't think that's the reason to exclude chacha. The reason to exclude cha cha for me is that I don't feel she would add anything at all to the game. I want Koei to expand upon things that need to be expanded upon, which means not Sekigahara or Osaka as those have plenty of characters on both sides.

I'm just going to continue raising my Shikanosuke moon flag. :caiwenji:

edit-I gotta work. I'm just procrastinating.
Edited by Rance, Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:40 pm.
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Aryamehr
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Skype me. Rancy.

ariya.2000
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Angelic Linca
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They added Zhang Chunhua to emasculate Sima Yi. She didn't add much more than that.
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Nuriko
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you SERIOUSLY can't see the difference between Katsuie and Nagamasa in regards to Oichi and Nene and Chacha in regards to Hideyoshi?
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Fräulein
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Basara Shikanosuke is a cutie. :tsuru:
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Angelic Linca
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I wish I could play newest Basara.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Rance
Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:21 pm
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Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:32 pm
Gohan should take the spotlight again
Only if he goes Great Saiyaman again.
Mr. Kamikaze
Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:33 pm
apparently Empress Wu Zetian showed her power of her male subordinates by forcing them to pleasure her orally when they requested an audience with her.

Ha..that's kinda awesome.
SOURCE

I must know.

For science.
I closed the page a long time ago

It was one of those "25 X-Rated Historical Facts" list things. Don't know if it's true or not, I didn't do anymore looking into it beyond that.
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Aryamehr
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History.

Unless you delete it once a while. :sly:
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Nuriko
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I'm 50/50 about Basara myself,I've played it but it's WAY to similar to SW (lmao if Koei wants revenge they should sue Capcom over Basara) in gameplay for me to definitively say it's better than SW especially when 70% Of Basara's character designs are crap but the characters that DO have good designs far outshine their SW counterparts
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Rance
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Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:41 pm
They added Zhang Chunhua to emasculate Sima Yi. She didn't add much more than that.
You have a point, but she was a fun character who was enjoyable to me. I liked her personality.

To be honest, I can't argue with you on this point though. You're basically right. It's hard to find good female characters to add for these games, and I guess KOEI has to kind of take what they can get.

NA: SOI actually has Yoshimoto's mom as a female officer and she's pretty awesome in that game, but I think she appears too early.
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Fräulein
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Naotora is tolerable like 5% of the time. I want the rest of her to be more like that 5%
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Rance
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SUMIMASEN!!!! I TRIPPED OVER MY INCOMPETENCE PLS DON'T LOOK AT MY SHAMEFULLY EXPOSED WELL ENDOWED BODY PARTS!!!

^naotora the vast majority of the time

What I find funny is that Aya was pretty much insignificant historically but imo KOEI made her into one of the best female characters in the series.

Koshosho is best though.
Edited by Rance, Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:54 pm.
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Angelic Linca
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She stepped on the grass or spilled milk.

"Gomensai"
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Nuriko
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I don't think adding Zhang Chunhua emasculated Sima Yi at all myself,I think she humanized him. Pre Chunhua he was a sadistic,homicidal arsehole. Now he actually seems human,seems a (tiny) bit more compassionate
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Rance
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Meh...to be honest she kind of steps all over his balls, possibly while wearing stiletto heels.
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Angelic Linca
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So basically she changed Sima Yi and they gave his pre-DW8 personality to Jia Chong.
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My problem with Naotora essentially boils down to her voice.

Like what, just because she's overly apologetic she has to sound like a five year old?
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the benefit of most female characters is that Koei can potentially do whatever they want with any of them. They just never do. Too much work, I guess. You look at characters like Cai Wenji and Bao Sanniang who literally do nothing but has potential to do much more than they do...and Koei doesn't even bother.

Diaochan and Sun Shangxiang are the only two DW females who are legitimately important to the narrative. Everyone else can fall into the background and nothing will change.
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Nuriko
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I actually don't like Koshosho much
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Aryamehr
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Rance
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Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:57 pm
the benefit of most female characters is that Koei can potentially do whatever they want with any of them. They just never do. Too much work, I guess. You look at characters like Cai Wenji and Bao Sanniang who literally do nothing but has potential to do much more than they do...and Koei doesn't even bother.

Diaochan and Sun Shangxiang are the only two DW females who are legitimately important to the narrative. Everyone else can fall into the background and nothing will change.
This is mostly true.

But Zhurong is pretty legit man! She actually kicks ass in the novel.

I feel like KOEI is a lot more creative with the female characters in SW. In DW they just feel a lot like hanger ons or dependents for their spouses. In SW it seems like KOEI is much more wildly original with all the female characters.
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No Zhurong? Surely you jest.
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