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| Deleted User | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:17 pm Post #291676 |
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I saw the heforshe stuff, it was pretty nauseating. she thinks very highly of herself for doing something that really is not relevent to modern gender politics. |
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| dancingswan | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:17 pm Post #291677 |
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And I know people who want social and economical equality for women but don't want to be tied to the name "feminist" because of the more toxic side of feminism, like the really radical, trans exclusionary, nonintersectional ones. That's not really an issue either. |
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:18 pm Post #291678 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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I just want to be paid as much as the guy next to me for doing the same job. Is that too much to ask? |
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| Aryamehr | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:18 pm Post #291679 |
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KHODA SHAH MIHAN
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:18 pm Post #291680 |
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I mean... who here is against women's rights and equality for women? Besides Mew, I mean (he just goes on and on about how women drool). Wouldn't that technically make us all feminists? Well, nevermind then. This makes sense. Edited by Mr. Kamikaze, Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:19 pm.
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| UpInMahBubble | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:19 pm Post #291681 |
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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I'm fed up of seeing Lena Dunham hailed as feminist icons too, no wonder people think the movement is toxic sometimes
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| Deleted User | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:19 pm Post #291682 |
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which is why, exactly like gamergate, its a total shitshow and people should be very careful around labels like that but people have determinned feminist to be too importan of a lebel and EVERYONE must be a feminist or they are sexist which is beyond idiotic. |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:19 pm Post #291683 |
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From the way you talk about it you clearly don't though. You know about the strawman that people build up. Modern feminism's goals are simple. Address gender violence (both female-on-male and male-on-female, but the latter more prominently because it DOES happen a hell of a lot more), address the lack of reproductive rights women have, reclaiming derogatory words (****, whore, harlot, skank, etc.), rape (again, regardless of who's being raped, but most prominently male-on-female because it DOES happen more), addressing the glass ceiling and sexual harassment, empowerment, and the support of pro-progressive race and transgender issues. There is of course also the issue of representation. Not only of women, but of other minority groups as well. It's not as major an issue, but it's one people like to pursue because it's something they can easily tackle compared to the others. |
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| dancingswan | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:19 pm Post #291684 |
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Taylor Swift just echos her pedophile friend's ideas and gets praised for it. |
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| Eni | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:20 pm Post #291685 |
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EW I'VE HEARD ABOUT HER. |
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| Rance | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:20 pm Post #291686 |
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Yuki Oh. No.
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Again, you didn't list anything that she actually said. |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:20 pm Post #291687 |
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This.... is honestly true. I should've just said this.
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| dancingswan | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:20 pm Post #291688 |
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Lena Dunham is a pedophile, and a terrible terrible person. |
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| Deleted User | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:21 pm Post #291689 |
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this would technically make us all gamergaters too because we all believe in journalistic integrity regardless of how much that doesnt and has never existed. that is a dangerous line of thinking. |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:21 pm Post #291690 |
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LENA DUNHAM GET HER AWAY EW EW EW EW |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:21 pm Post #291691 |
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Lena Dunham actually seems like a cool person then all that other **** comes to light and like...gross |
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| UpInMahBubble | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:22 pm Post #291692 |
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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But she's so quirky!!!!!!!!
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:22 pm Post #291693 |
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I don't think that's what gamergate is though |
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| Deleted User | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:22 pm Post #291694 |
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because i dont care enough to look mit up right now? i gave you the name of the campaign the vids should speak for themselves |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:22 pm Post #291695 |
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Feminism is just literally believing that women are equals to everyone else (males or otherwise) and should be treated in equity. |
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| Rance | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:23 pm Post #291696 |
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If you actually understood the history of feminism, you would understood why. It started out with very basic goals, some of which Mew has mentioned above, and then went off in a billion different directions. Some of the basic goals of feminism should be things that everybody should support. Women should get the same pay as men if they're doing the same work, they should be treated equally as men in the public sphere and domestic violence and female rape should come to an end. If you don't support those goals, you're complete and total scum in my opinion.
I can't take you seriously if you say "I hate it!!! it's bad!!!" and then give no examples to back up your point. That's why I called you to task. Edited by Rance, Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:24 pm.
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| dancingswan | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:24 pm Post #291697 |
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I never even followed the gamergate thing because it just seemed ridiculous. So I can't comment on that issue. Again, you don't have to label yourself a feminist if you don't want to. I don't really see anything wrong with that? Like I said, I have friends who agree with my ideas like 100%, but stay away from the feminist term because of some of the other... I guess, branches would be the word(?) make them not want to be associated with that. |
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:25 pm Post #291698 |
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Eff this. Gettin' too serious. Gonna go air-lift some animals for Ocelot's zoo. |
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| Deleted User | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:25 pm Post #291699 |
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I do though, I considered myself a feminist and SJW when i was like 13-16, i was deep in those trenches, i get it, i know a lot about it even if i just make noncholant jokes about i. I've seen what you've said and posted about it a lot, and i think you're overly idealistic and uncritical of feminism, because somethings ACTUAL political presense is far more relevant than its idealistic presense, yes feminism has some wonderful ideas and sometimes it accomplishes some great things, but its overal damaging to gender politics and more harmful to women's rights than it is helpful, its beyond jsut being in deperate need of rebranding |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:26 pm Post #291700 |
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Yeah I think not calling yourself a feminist is fine but thinking ALL people who call themselves feminists are some kinda extremist pro-woman anti-everyone-else bigots is kinda silly. I'm sure there are some MRAs who legit think they're doing good. Labels are labels. What's important is the beliefs one espouses. |
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