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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,971,384 Views)
UpInMahBubble
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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The negative connotations of the word?

Yeah like idk why feminism split off into so many different ways. There's a lot of women who exclude trans people and men and queer women from their agendas and I can't sit with that.
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KHODA SHAH MIHAN
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Chibi's gonna hit 8000 posts soon.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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I don't know, I know I'm a generally optimistic person but I've seen more good than harm come up? IDK..
ChibiGingi
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:25 pm
Eff this. Gettin' too serious. Gonna go air-lift some animals for Ocelot's zoo.
GET HIM A GIRAFFE OR EVERYTHING IS NIGH
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Controversial opinion: I like the taste of soda when it gets watered down, as long as its cold.
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Rance
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:23 pm
If you actually understood the history of feminism, you would understood why. It started out with very basic goals, some of which Mew has mentioned above, and then went off in a billion different directions. Some of the basic goals of feminism should be things that everybody should support. Women should get the same pay as men if they're doing the same work, they should be treated equally as men in the public sphere and domestic violence and female rape should come to an end. If you don't support those goals, you're complete and total scum in my opinion.
but no one is arguing this???
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Oh God Fox bought out National Geographic.
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UpInMahBubble
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:26 pm
The negative connotations of the word?

Yeah like idk why feminism split off into so many different ways. There's a lot of women who exclude trans people and men and queer women from their agendas and I can't sit with that.
Unfortunately, this has been a thing from the outset. Way back in the day, there was a woman named Betty Friedan who was the leader of the feminist movement and was also a gigantic homophobe. She called lesbians the "lavender menace" and wanted to boot them out of the movement even though they were some of the biggest proponents of women's rights at the time.

dancingswan is 100% right on this topic. Feminism has branched out in so many different directions that characterizing it as "bad" is really narrow-minded. You're basically looking at a few feminists whose beliefs you disagree with and using them to justify poo-pooing the entire movement. That's retarded.
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Mewshuji
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:29 pm
Oh God Fox bought out National Geographic.
Now we'll never get the whole story about those Elephants, they'll just cover it all up
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Yeah Feminism has a bunch of problems, I'm willing to admit, even to this day. TERFs and "White Feminism" (i.e., focusing only on improving white women's rights, not all women's) for instance are kinda rampant. There's a lot of transphobia, homophobia, and racism that needs to be addressed.

But it's totally unfair to throw the whole movement under the bus, I think, given how large it is.
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I never even heard of GamersGate until now.
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Tbh a lot of people I know say they don't follow feminism because they're not "man haters", because the media likes to focus on those kind of radicals. The ones who shame sex workers and act like all men should die, not the ones who actually want to make a change.
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Mr. Kamikaze
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:31 pm
Mewshuji
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:29 pm
Oh God Fox bought out National Geographic.
Now we'll never get the whole story about those Elephants, they'll just cover it all up
:hiss: Lord Murdoch has declared the environment is fine. Pump out more toxic fumes, because the world will "just fix itself". :hiss:
UpInMahBubble
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:32 pm
Tbh a lot of people I know say they don't follow feminism because they're not "man haters", because the media likes to focus on those kind of radicals. The ones who shame sex workers and act like all men should die, not the ones who actually want to make a change.
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Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:33 pm.
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I mean...I personally support prostitution and pornography and I consider myself a feminist. There are some feminists who share my views and others that don't, which is fine. I also disagree with the people who consider themselves feminists but are homophobic or misogynist, obviously.
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Equality is very admirable and of course everybody should aim for it, but if you have a toxic majority then don't act surprised when your movement is judged as toxic.
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Rance
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:30 pm
Feminism has branched out in so many different directions that characterizing it as "bad" is really narrow-minded. You're basically looking at a few feminists whose beliefs you disagree with and using them to justify poo-pooing the entire movement. That's retarded.
but like even most of the real awful hardcore feminazi haters hold a lot of the prinicpal beliefs of feminism, so this line of thinking isnt exactly relvant, certainly not in this discussion because no one is disgreeing with women's rights, I'm disagreeing with a lot of modern feminism, thats all.

I'm not interested in faulty research, confirmation bias and ultimatums
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Mew x.x do I get on you for calling Motochika creepy? (Even though he's not,Hisahide fits that category) Also Mitsuhide and Motochika WERE Canon until 4,and brother Mitsunari is a great example of how Ieyasu is a hypocrite Sorry for the late reply my phone died
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Eni
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:35 pm
Equality is very admirable and of course everybody should aim for it, but if you have a toxic majority then don't act surprised when your movement is judged as toxic.
basically.
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But the majority isn't toxic????? @_@
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Mewshuji
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:37 pm
But the majority isn't toxic????? @_@
funny how opinions will vary.
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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How could Mitsuhide and Motochika be canon if Mitsuhide is too busy with his dying wife
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UpInMahBubble
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:39 pm
How could Mitsuhide and Motochika be canon if Mitsuhide is too busy with his dying wife
How do you think she ended up dying? :itsuki:
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two men can't be friends without them being canonically lovers
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Mr. Kamikaze
Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:41 pm
two men can't be friends without them being canonically lovers
Two men can't be near eachother without getting a massive case of "wanting to **** like bunnies".
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its not canon till they kiss
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My views on feminism are the same as my views on other issues it only becomes a problem When idiots go overboard with it. Hating men doesn't make a person a feminist it makes them SEXIST. All feminism should be is empowering women to be the best they can be,we aren't superior to men any more than they are superior to us
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