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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,971,083 Views)
Eni
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Mewshuji
Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:24 pm
All this honking.
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Is this a Chen thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrsKPK90DGE
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dancingswan
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UpInMahBubble
Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:24 pm
What was so bad about Silver Linings Playbook? Never seen it
It was an overhyped, overpromoted, overrewarded mess.
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UpInMahBubble
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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"gAY RIGHTS. SO RELATABLE. LIKE ME."

So I didn't miss much by not seeing it then? Good.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Seidou is my anon hater eh? Interesting....

And nah, it takes a lot more than vague and wildly creative sexual threats for me to worry DG, I'll save it for when they start actually attacking me.
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Eni
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When Mew is attacked in the street by a guy/gal with a pineapple, he'll know.
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Nuriko
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10 great balls,20 pokeballs and 3000$ wasted just trying to catch ONE DAMN CUTE CHARM EFFING SKITTY THIS IS RIDICULOUS!
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I just like how she didn't try to make a real statement it just "GAY RIGHTS!" like we actually don't know her stance. She could be angry at gay rights, against them for all we know.
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Rance
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I think a more legitimate criticism could be that all of the major characters were White.

They could have had a black Peter Pan or a Pakistani Hook or a mixed Caribbean actor for Blackbeard (though Hugh Jackman was fantastic in that role). They could have cast any actor of any ethnicity for any of the roles, theoretically.
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Angelic Linca
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Mew, ever watch Little Nicky?
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UpInMahBubble
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Wait that was actually a real promo image? I thought it was just a pisstake in lieu of what she'd say
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It's a legit thing.
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Nuriko
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Rance please I'm BEGGING you go back to the route just after the first gym in X and Y and catch Me a skitty that HAS FREAKING CUTE CHARM!!!! my frustration level is through the roof
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Rance
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Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:29 pm
Rance please I'm BEGGING you go back to the route just after the first gym in X and Y and catch Me a skitty that HAS FREAKING CUTE CHARM!!!! my frustration level is through the roof
I don't feel like it. I hardly touch my 3DS anymore and I don't even know where it is.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Can't say I have Sakura. Not super into Adam Sandler films. Why you ask?
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That makes me cringe at it even more tbh. Worthy of a horn blowing.
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Angelic Linca
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There's a scene with Adolf Hitler and a pineapple. Maybe where creepy anon got idea.
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Eni
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Uuuugh I don't want to shave, feeling so lazy.
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Rance
Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:23 pm
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Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:15 pm
Um, Rance, have you ever read the novel?
Tiger Lily Is native american, not white, shes described as such in the novel, her tribe is even named after piccaninny, a rather odd name to attach to a tribe of white people.

Almost everything regarding Tiger Lily and her tribe has always been pretty racist, the movie had a chance to rectify it, they instead chose to be racist agian and caught fire because of it, fair is fair.
She's not Native American because there's no America in Neverland. The word piccaninny is also, ironically, a racist term applied to black people and particularly slaves rather than Native Americans. By your logic, she should have been black or they should have not bothered with the name of the tribe at all (which is what I think they did). However, you could also argue that it's just a name and does not in of itself necessarily mean anything as the name of some tribe in a fictional setting.
take that up with the author, not me, a black person would have made more sense than a white girl, at least they could have cited the name of the tribe as their reasoning, it would have still caught fire, sure sicne as you said piccaninny is a racist term, but thats not my issue. Again, she's described as such in the novel, so citing the novel as a reason for casting her white is dumb.

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Also, you can't have it both ways. If the original film was racist for pigeonholing Native Americans in a stereotypical role, it's not also racist for that stereotypical role to be filled by people of diverse ethnicities instead.
come on man, thats illogical and you know it, implying that the opposite action illicits the opposite outcome just isnt the case, especially in this scenario. Whitewashing is racist, but so are sterotypes.

I'm not slandering the entire film as racist garbage, but casting Tiger lily as a white girl is racist, thats the end of the matter.
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Kickbeat is free on PS+? Neat.

I liked playing that, hopefully more people do :itsuki:
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I'm doing a mono type play through Rance I randomly generated a type,got normal,I went ahead and got a pidgey,bidoof,Zigzagoon,dunsparce and one of each gender of litleo I'm in the route where you get skitty,I want a skitty on my team I had 20 pokeballs,10 greatballs and 3000 dollars,I go into the tall grass catch 30 skitty and not a ONE has cute charm so I spend my 3000 and buy 12 more pokeballs ,FORTY TWO skitty and not a ONE usable x.x
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Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:33 pm
There's a scene with Adolf Hitler and a pineapple. Maybe where creepy anon got idea.
Ohhhhh, well then! Perhaps!
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Nuriko
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Trust me you have no clue my level of aggravation XD I'll transfer over my big nugget from AS and just keep trying but good lord this is annoying the living hell out of me
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take that up with the author, not me, a black person would have made more sense than a white girl, at least they could have cited the name of the tribe as their reasoning, it would have still caught fire, sure sicne as you said piccaninny is a racist term, but thats not my issue. Again, she's described as such in the novel, so citing the novel as a reason for casting her white is dumb.


Is her ethnicity ever specifically described in the novel, though? Does the novel specifically mention her skin complexion, etc.? If so, I stand corrected. However, there is still the idea that the movie Pan could be seen as a reinterpretation with the director having his own ideas about the ethnicity of the characters in a vague fantasy world.

Which could explain why Smee is played by Adeel Akhtar, for example, a similarly unconventional choice which has not been criticized at all (rightly so, in my opinion, because I thought he was excellent in that role).

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come on man, thats illogical and you know it, implying that the opposite action illicits the opposite outcome just isnt the case, especially in this scenario. Whitewashing is racist, but so are sterotypes.

I'm not slandering the entire film as racist garbage, but casting Tiger lily as a white girl is racist, thats the end of the matter.


I actually don't think that either is inherently racist, but I'll play by your logic on this. If whitewashing is racist AND stereotypes are racist then casting a Native American as Tiger Lily would be racist because the character just demonstrates a bunch of Native American stereotypes.

This argument does not make any sense to me. You can't have it both ways. Why single out Tiger Lily as the character who should have been a Native American if that's the most stereotypical role? If we are looking to try to help out Native American actors and actresses here, why not have one of the other main characters played by a particularly competent Native American actor/actress?
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I apologize to all the poor people on wonder trade but I'm NOT keeping all these useless skittys
Rance buddy WALLS lol you can't talk to walls there's no point trying
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