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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,970,956 Views)
Nuriko
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May fascinate YOU but if I ever get wind it's seriously bothering Kat I AM going to kick your ass Ryo just a friendly heads up
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Rance
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I think a key problem is that Wei just has too much ******* **** to cover. They have the most historical records and basically they're the most important of the Three Kingdoms. They don't even cover everything Cao Cao did, and yet even with all those omissions the story still ends up being entirely about him. There's so much **** that he did which they feel obligated to include in the game, usually for justifiable reasons.

It's controversial, but I think they kind of need to pick and choose with Wei and maybe focus on different things with each new game. If they're going to expound upon Cao Pi, I think they should cut out some early **** in Cao Cao's career (like YT/Dong Zhuo, which the Wu story can delve into anyways) and begin Cao Cao's story a bit later. That gives them an opportunity to maybe include some post-Cao Cao stuff.
I would actually really like this. Between 7-8, it does seem like they were retreading the exact same ground with each kingdom, just in a new light. It'd be great if they focused on different things- maybe even avoided having multiple story-playthrough sides of the same battle except for like, super major ones like Red Cliffs and stuff.
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Ryō Genken
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Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:58 am
May fascinate YOU but if I ever get wind it's seriously bothering Kat I AM going to kick your ass Ryo just a friendly heads up
I will....NOT stop at it. I'm not Kat...who stopped growing height. :whistle:
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Hah, don't worry DG. I've said the same, I think he gets the idea. We wouldn't need to intercede anyway because
1) Kat is a mod
2) She can kick ass ten ways from Sunday. lol
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Nuriko
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My issue with Guo Nuwang is adding her in would make Cao Pi into a villain and anyone who wants Guo Nuwang but doesn't want Xiahouji is a hypocrite and I HATE hypocrites
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OMM: I want to create a personal wikia, where i listed everything that i wished KOEI would do for future DW series with DW Blast. Don't worry, i won't discriminate..everyone including the winning place.
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Nuriko
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Lmao Mew I'm a third degree black belt I actually COULD kick his ass XD
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Katatonia
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I am not a toy to be played with :nope: go get him DG
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Nuriko
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Lmao you heard the lady Ryo
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ROTK 12 version of Zhuge Dan makes him look like Santa Claus

Still adorable in a very different way.
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Mewshuji
Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:00 am
Rance
Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:58 am
I think a key problem is that Wei just has too much ******* **** to cover. They have the most historical records and basically they're the most important of the Three Kingdoms. They don't even cover everything Cao Cao did, and yet even with all those omissions the story still ends up being entirely about him. There's so much **** that he did which they feel obligated to include in the game, usually for justifiable reasons.

It's controversial, but I think they kind of need to pick and choose with Wei and maybe focus on different things with each new game. If they're going to expound upon Cao Pi, I think they should cut out some early **** in Cao Cao's career (like YT/Dong Zhuo, which the Wu story can delve into anyways) and begin Cao Cao's story a bit later. That gives them an opportunity to maybe include some post-Cao Cao stuff.
I would actually really like this. Between 7-8, it does seem like they were retreading the exact same ground with each kingdom, just in a new light. It'd be great if they focused on different things- maybe even avoided having multiple story-playthrough sides of the same battle except for like, super major ones like Red Cliffs and stuff.
I think that's for the best.

It would allow them to tread on a lot of new ground with Wei. They can sell out the YT and Dong Zhuo to Wu and give the conflict against Lü Bu and Yuan Shu to Shu-Han (though maybe include Cao Cao's struggle with Lü Bu in Yan province as part of the Wei story if they want). I'd like for them to explore Cao Cao's battles with Yuan Shao's successors and post-Cao Cao Wei, personally.

Edit-I also want them to throw in more of Cao Cao's battles with Liu Biao/Zhang Xiu.
Edited by Rance, Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:14 am.
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Nuriko
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Very strange movie I watched
Seriously weird x.x
Why the hell did I waste two hours watching this?
Edited by Nuriko, Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:18 am.
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Katatonia
Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:11 am
I am not a toy to be played with :nope: go get him DG
I prefer comfier one like you. :mori:
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Oichi and Nohime chasing Ranmaru around, putting him in makeup and high curly ponytails when they finally catch him, Kanbei teaching Takakage the moves and Hanbei putting said moves on Nohime :lol: this'll be a fun little story
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I still say they need to separate the story by game.

ROTK is way too big to fit into one game unless it's some kind of 300-hour-long super RPG like Dragon Quest VII

First game should cover Fall of the Han all the way up to Hu Lao Gate

Second game should go from there to Chi Bi

Third game should go from there to the founding of Jin

This way they don't have to split up the focus between an entire three generations' worth of characters and events for one game, and have time and space to give ample characterization to everyone and fully showcase the major events. Plus it would be a good excuse to cut a lot of characters for the first game so they can rework the battle system entirely, and then bring them back slowly in the sequels as the story calls for them.

Not to mention that would mean the next game coming up after it would be an actual SEQUEL, continuing the story instead of retreading the exact same thing for the 9th time in a row.

All the characters who died in the last game would become Free Mode only in the next, so by the final game all the characters would be playable in Free Mode.
Edited by Wild Lion, Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:28 am.
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Nuriko
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Don't be dissing on Dragon Quest we've been over this Dragon Quest is perfection
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Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:23 am
I still say they need to separate the story by game.

ROTK is way too big to fit into one game unless it's some kind of 300-hour-long super RPG like Dragon Quest VII

First game should cover Fall of the Han all the way up to Hu Lao Gate

Second game should go from there to Chi Bi

Third game should go from there to the founding of Jin

This way they don't have to split up the focus between an entire three generations' worth of characters and events for one game, and have time and space to give ample characterization to everyone and fully showcase the major events. Plus it would be a good excuse to cut a lot of characters for the first game so they can rework the battle system entirely, and then bring them back slowly in the sequels as the story calls for them.

Not to mention that would mean the next game coming up after it would be an actual SEQUEL, continuing the story instead of retreading the exact same thing for the 9th time in a row.

All the characters who died in the last game would become Free Mode only, so by the final game all the characters would be playable in Free Mode.
This!!!!!
I always wanted this DW9 focus on fall of Han to Fan Castle. DW10 Fan Castle to Wuzhang Plains. DW11 Wuzhang Plains to JIN Dynasty reunification.
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Nuriko
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As long as we get Jia Nanfeng and Guo Huai blows up Zhao Yun with his cannon thing I'm game for whatever changes they do
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Katatonia
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That's actually not a bad idea. Then they can do an Xtreme Legends kind of thing with the rest of the story, like an expansion, a free expansion(or a very cheap DLC)
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Wild Lion
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Nobody blows up Zhao Yun. He is Chinese Superman.
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Nuriko
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Oh and some guy on guy loving,nothing graphic of course it IS a T rated game but maybe some kissing and goodies fondling n.n
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But to have this episodic DW like Dothack.. it requires a certain protagonists for each time isn't it? Guess who might fitting all time era? :sly:
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Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:31 am
But to have this episodic DW like Dothack.. it requires a certain protagonists for each time isn't it? Guess who might fitting all time era? :sly;
I don't think you need a "main character" for each era, but a main battle like the way Sekigahara was the focus of SW2

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I like certain chars if I can't play the characters I like I won't buy the game,that's a very BAD idea to break it up into stories
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Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:30 am
Oh and some guy on guy loving,nothing graphic of course it IS a T rated game but maybe some kissing and goodies fondling n.n
I'd rather be respectful to history and the dead people who made it
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Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:33 am
I like certain chars if I can't play the characters I like I won't buy the game,that's a very BAD idea to break it up into stories
Just because you are fickle doesn't mean the idea is bad.
Edited by Wild Lion, Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:35 am.
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