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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,970,662 Views)
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I guess being at Snake's bedside for 9 years calmed him down a bit??

but its weird cause come MGS1 hes back to being absolutely mental again like the OCelot I know and love
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Yes, but how much of that is an act and how much is it actually Ocelot?

Remember, he's a triple agent, so he has to act accordingly to the situation. The Ocelot that served Volgin wasn't the same Ocelot that served Big Boss, nor the same Ocelot that served Liquid and later Solidus. I'm guessing different bosses means a different act and maybe he felt his mental act suited Liquid more than, say, his act with Big Boss/Venom Snake.

Thus far, the only actual consistency with Ocelot, besides being a triple agent, is that he is legit loyal to Big Boss. Everything else is like... you can't TRUST what he does because it's all part of his act.

Edit: Also note the whole inconsistency for Ocelot could also just be because of how insane the MGS series is and inconsistency between one game to another.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:12 am.
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I spoiled myself on like everyone's story in 5, but after already knowing what happened with Huey during 2, I was like "damn" at everything he did :lol: Quiet was depressing, too
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I think the issue lies more with the fact that he just has nothing to do the whole game , in previous games OCelot was always a ajor villain, and constantly doing razy off the wall chit that kept you guessing, in MGSV hes literally just guy taht talks to you on radio, he also raises a dog, tahts it, otherwise he does nothing but interrogate people which isnt really interesting, with nothign to do he jsut ends up being pretty boring and poorly characterized

but as far as issues with MGSV's plot go thats one of the minor ones
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I legit feel bad for every character in MGS5 except Emmerich and Ocelot.

Ocelot I just looked at and shook my head. Still love him, but gdi.

Edit: OH, right, I get what you're saying now, Scottie. And I agree, he seems really subdued in terms of doing ****. Hell, if he'd join you has a buddy every so often, that'd be great.

He was the one I was looking forward to the most in the game and all he does is spout animal/plant/mission facts at you and periodically get to do some interesting things here and there. Yeah, that is a bummer.

Seeing him own Eli was worth it, though.
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He's got no excuse for what he did to Strangelove, that's just royally messed up. Otacon, too. It makes me think,"Ok, you put Hal into danger by using him as a test subject, but whatever, he ended up banging your wife, so he got you back"

all Strangelove wanted was a happy life with Hal and The Boss. Is that so much to ask for? Like damn.
Edited by Katatonia, Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:17 am.
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No, **** Huey.

**** him hard.

Like... he went from being the most 'eh' to 'DIE IN A FIRE' character for me.
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Seriously, he's awful
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A monster.

Edit: I'm trying to make a conscious effort to work on this chapter but all I can think about is how angry I am about Huey.

There aren't enough stairs on this earth to push him down.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:21 am.
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"You're all still diamonds." Stahppppp
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The worst things, though, is giving him Otakon's VA... it's like, DON'T THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE HE SOUNDS LIKE OUR ADORABLE OTAKON THAT I WILL EVER FORGIVE HIM!
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Otacon is so precious, his adorable voice can't be tainted by Huey

Speaking of effed up; Paz though. Like damn :lol:
Edited by Katatonia, Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:23 am.
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YEAH... yeaaaaaaah...

Paz.

Just. Wow. I feel bad every time there's a new photo to give her. I'm like... I want to help you out, but... every time I do I feel like a monster.
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Paz's story is crazy, but it's kinda hard to feel bad. Hell, I think the idea of the entire series is to show how horrible people can be
Edited by Katatonia, Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:29 am.
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MGS: The World is a Dark and Cruel Place.

Edit: Writing a depressed and distraught at being outsmarted Zhou Yu is both fun and painful.
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But we still have break dancing robots, love boxes, sauna fights and Ocelot :lol:

^^damn. Hard to pity your Zhou Yu, though, he was such an asshole to Lu Meng. He meant well, however, tough love works in wondrous ways
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Oh yes, let's not forget break dancing robots, Geckos that MOO, and our loveable traitor Ocelot.

He's also a bit of a drama queen and kind of deserves some karma being flung back at him, this is true.

He was an asshole with a purpose. It... unfortunately backfired horribly.
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Zhou Yu is Zhou Yu. He shouldn't have hit on Ginchiyo :lol:

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Will never forgive MGSV for killing off Chico :nope:
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My goal for Zhou Yu was to be that type of character that represented someone that you may not have liked when you were younger. They were kind of a jerk, belittled you at every chance they got, treated you harsher than they treated others. However, something happens and you realize that person was, in their weird way, was trying to help you, or came to understand you and wanted to help you improve but could never truly let go of their dickish ways. Their method of teaching/training involved humiliation when you failed so that it would teach you not to fail again. You respected that person for their strengths but still held some resentment or aggravation with them. Then, out of the blue, someone else comes along and they try their tactics with, only for it to fail and backfire, and all the times you thought you wanted to see someone one-up him... you find yourself pitying them and wanting to support then, even though they brought their fate upon themselves.

That's what I'm aiming for. Will I actually succeed, however? We'll see.
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That's pretty much the vibe I got from Zhou Yu. The Lu Meng with Zuo Ci realizes this, but the Lu Meng of the past doesn't realize it yet, and it's interesting to see the transition
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Good, then I'm doing a well enough job. This pleases me (and I thank you for any input or tips you may have, of course, because I do want to be a good writer.)

Edit: Welp, roommate's finally back from wherever. Guess we should have the talk soon.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:06 am.
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No good.

No good at all.
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Roommate's new boyfriend is doing the haka in the front room.

Should... should I be intimidated or turned on?
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No good.

No good at all.
Why do you become Naomasa?
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