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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,970,494 Views)
ChibiGingi
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I doubt one exists, but sure, I'd never pass up the chance to hear one if it did exist.
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Nuriko
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Lmao that song seriously vilifys Cao Cao but it's still about Cao Cao so I'll take it
Lmao would you settle for one about Wu if I can't find one about Lu Meng specifically?
Edited by Nuriko, Thu Nov 5, 2015 2:28 am.
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ChibiGingi
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Lu Xun's fine, too.
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Nuriko
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Lmao Chibi if you only understood Chinese you'd be shocked by the lyrics to Cao Cao XD
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ChibiGingi
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Not really. Most people villify him.
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Rydain
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Could be worse, I suppose
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ChibiGingi
Thu Nov 5, 2015 2:21 am
Alright, well now that I have a Chromebook/laptop, my next goal will be a new wacom tablet. Some many million years in the future.

Speaking of... I should get a little something started, shouldn't I?
Check out Ray Frenden's tablet reviews if you haven't already seen them. There are some fantastic Wacom alternatives available for a much cheaper price - and sometimes better digitization. I swear by my Yiynova MVP22U v3 monitor (last year's winter holiday splurge). It doesn't support pen tilt, but I never used that anyway.
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Nuriko
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Lmao I don't he's not the hero of Chaos for nothing
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Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:55 am
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Nuriko
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Obviously this song was written by a Shu wuss XD
Ooh I wonder if my brother has heard this
None about Lu Meng but I think I found one about either Zhuge Liang,Zhao Yun or Guan Yu,can't figure out which one thou since they are all three called the Dragon x.x
I think it's Zhuge Liang since it mentions wind
Edited by Nuriko, Thu Nov 5, 2015 2:39 am.
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MeowMeow
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Thu Nov 5, 2015 2:34 am
Obviously this song was written by a Shu wuss XD
Ooh I wonder if my brother has heard this
None about Lu Meng but I think I found one about either Zhuge Liang,Zhao Yun or Guan Yu,can't figure out which one thou since they are all three called the Dragon x.x
I think it's Zhuge Liang since it mentions wind
Which song are you referring to sis?

Its in mandarin?

Well kinda BTW sis the traditional Chinese position is Shu = good, Wei = bad, pretty much. Cao Cao gets villified in China all the time :lol: Its no big deal, in fact its surprising when he's NOT villified in Chinese dramas, etc.

Nowadays though its more nuanced. I think people do realize the 3 kingdoms were a very, very long time ago and I don't think people really hate Cao Cao anymore :lol:
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Nuriko
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Cao Cao by Jj Lin brother here's a link https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLGZ5rTPHfJoQD6iNOwdChbGa5d6qgMXWT&v=7BUlJGs5nNs
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DMRevolution
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Something something student council president

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Lyrics:

曹操

作詞:林秋離
作曲:林俊傑

不是英雄 不讀三國
若是英雄 怎麼能不懂寂寞
獨自走下長板坡 月光太溫柔
曹操不囉唆 一心要拿荊州
用陰謀陽謀 明說暗奪的摸
東漢末年分三國 烽火連天不休
兒女情長 被亂世左右 誰來煮酒
爾虞我詐是三國 說不清對與錯
紛紛擾擾 千百年以後 一切又從頭

不是英雄 不讀三國
若是英雄 怎麼能不懂寂寞
獨自走下長板坡 月光太溫柔
曹操不囉唆 一心要拿荊州
用陰謀陽謀 明說暗奪的摸

東漢末年分三國 烽火連天不休
兒女情長 被亂世左右 誰來煮酒
爾虞我詐是三國 說不清對與錯
紛紛擾擾 千百年以後 一切又從頭

獨自走下長板坡 月光太溫柔
曹操不囉唆 一心要拿荊州
用陰謀陽謀 明說暗奪的摸

東漢末年分三國 烽火連天不休
兒女情長 被亂世左右 誰來煮酒
爾虞我詐是三國 說不清對與錯
紛紛擾擾 千百年以後 一切又從頭

its kinda ambivalent rather than flat out making Cao Cao the villain. Its more of how Cao Cao is the "ambivalent, machiavellian hero" which in the novel 3 kingdoms he is.

Historically is another matter. It was a different time and place, and really Liu Bei was no less cunning historically, just had a little worse luck.

Thanks for the song sis, yeah I've heard it before but I never paid too much attention to the lyrics until just now :lol:
Edited by MeowMeow, Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:15 am.
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Nuriko
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Yeah those are the lyrics n.n it's pretty that's for damn sure
I can barely type with my offhand as is can you post in English for people? I'd do it but it's awkward
Edited by Nuriko, Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:19 am.
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DMRevolution
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YEAH BABY ;)
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Dynasty Girl
Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:17 am
Yeah those are the lyrics n.n it's pretty that's for damn sure
Also talks about how lonely Cao Cao must be, trusting no one... (which he was in the novel)

I wouldn't call it vilifying Cao Cao though, more just a real ambivalence about him. (Which is understandable, the man was ruthless and machiavellian, but they had to be in order to grab power)

I don't think he has any real hatred in today's China though, it was so long ago by now he has a lot of defenders in China today too :lol: (the "do what you have to do" school of politics essentially).

Its kind of cool how ancient chinese history is still actually part of the pop culture of the country and stuff and not just academia. ;) . I don't get the feeling that the pharoahs pop up much in Egyptian pop music or a Greek rapper singing about Plato :lol:

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I think Liu Bei was less cunning than Cao Cao personally. CC did get lucky many times though.

Also NA: SOI is free to play this weekend if you're interested in trying it out, Kat.
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MeowMeow
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YEAH BABY ;)
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Dynasty Girl
Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:17 am
Yeah those are the lyrics n.n it's pretty that's for damn sure
I can barely type with my offhand as is can you post in English for people? I'd do it but it's awkward
I'll do it later. Too lazy to translate right now :kurokan: and I'm at work anyway :lol:
Shikanosuke
Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:22 am
I think Liu Bei was less cunning than Cao Cao personally. CC did get lucky many times though.

Also NA: SOI is free to play this weekend if you're interested in trying it out, Kat.
I know, its that how "Liu Bei was the paragon of purity and virtue" :sick: :lol: no, Liu Bei had some cunning, he wasn't some innocent dove. CC did get lucky in his family position, his geographic position, that his extended clan proved relatively competent and his opponents weren't as strong as he was one way or another.
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Nuriko
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There's far more Jpop songs about the sengoku period than there are cpop songs about the ROTK Era brother
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Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:26 am
There's far more Jpop songs about the sengoku period than there are cpop songs about the ROTK Era brother
That too. Japan loves the Sengoku :lol: Its actually the fangirls that drive that market nowadays :lol:

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Rance
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You're talking to someone who wrote an essay on how luck/contingencies were a huge factor in Cao Cao's success.

I know that Liu Bei could be wily at times. He was a huge dickass when Cao Cao captured Lü Bu for instance, and his strategies at Bowangpo and versus Liu Zhang were clever. But Cao Cao was still a better general, strategist and schemer imo, even though it's also true that he had more advantages stacked in his favor.
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Nuriko
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Liu Bei is a hypocrite x.x I don't like hypocrites
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ChibiGingi
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Oh man, this one is going to be a doozy.
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Shikanosuke
Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:27 am
You're talking to someone who wrote an essay on how luck/contingencies were a huge factor in Cao Cao's success.

I know that Liu Bei could be wily at times. He was a huge dickass when Cao Cao captured Lü Bu for instance, and his strategies at Bowangpo and versus Liu Zhang were clever. But Cao Cao was still a better general, strategist and schemer imo, even though it's also true that he had more advantages stacked in his favor.
You wrote an ESSAY on it, like for schoool? :OMG:

Wow what school did you attend? I never got to do that kind of topic :lol:
I was lucky I knew a fair bit about western history so I had really good marks there too. But Three Kingdoms? :D
Dynasty Girl
Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:26 am
There's far more Jpop songs about the sengoku period than there are cpop songs about the ROTK Era brother
There's a TON of smartphone 3 kingdoms games in China. So there's that :P
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I wrote an essay on the sengoku period brother
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