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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,968,961 Views)
Uesugi Kenshin
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If I ever do a FeMU runthrough of Hoshido, I'll probably pair him with Kagerou.
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Uesugi Kenshin
Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:19 pm
Takumi is hot, I'll give him that.
I'm disappointed.

Like I wouldn't be mad if you liked Hayato. Please just like Hayato, he's a thing. Takumi is problematic and the turd of Hoshido.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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What did Takumi do that's so bad? :tora: Or is it spoilers?
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Eni
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Takumi ruins everything.
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Magic is their weakness. Their resistance growths are abysmal. They also have average speed, so it isn't uncommon to double hit them. They are literally the reverse of a Pegasus Knight. Pegasus Knight has exceptional Skill, Speed, Luck, and Resistance whereas Wyvern Riders have great HP, Strength, and Defense.


The reason this doesn't matter to me: If you're playing a wyvern rider, you have the mobility to move in and take out a mage immediately before they can even hit you. Chances are, the mage in question does not have high enough defenses to withstand your assault and is unlikely to ever get in range of you unless you blow it hard.

The combination of their strengths are more effective than the combination of their weaknesses, in my opinion. Pegasus Knights, by contrast, sometimes lack the power to assassinate things as effectively and are paper. Physical types of enemies also seem more common to me than magic ones except on certain maps. In Radiant Dawn it was even worse because the wyverns also had absurd HP and were only weak to specific magic (thunder iirc) so Haar could just laugh off everything and even take a few thunder hits unscathed.

I didn't think archers were good in path of radiance personally, especially with the addition of wind magic, but in Radiant Dawn they were buffed massively. Crossbows were one of the best things they ever added to the series and I'm glad that the concept is basically returning to Fates.

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Galeforce also got nerfed in Fates


That's probably for the better.
Edited by Rance, Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:27 pm.
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On the opposite end of the spectrum, generals and knights have been very strong in certain games due to their ability to wade into the enemy field of vision, draw enemies out and act as an effective frontline.

very retarded in shadow dragon
Edited by Rance, Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:28 pm.
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Depends on what kind of mage. In Awakening, a Dark Knight and a Sorcerer could very well survive a hit, if it's Awakening we're talking about. Especially the latter, since they'll likely activate Vengence, be equipped with Nosferatu, kill you, and heal all their lost HP back.

idk, I always thought the two were balanced. You just have to use them for different purposes. Pegasus Knights have always been fantastic units, though I wasn't the biggest fan in Path of Radiance, mainly because they just came at weird times. They have incredible crit chance, and evasion on top of super high resistance. So they make great Mage killers, even if the Mage has wind magic. I've never really had a problem taking anything out with a PK since they double literally everything, and are probably going to crit on both hits.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Is it because he's a sadboy? If so I get it then, I don't often like sadboys either unless they're more legit sad than grumpy. Otherwise I'm reading his personality and not seeing anything objectionable.
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looked up takumi to see how hot he is

lmao ok...ok :doge:
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Uesugi Kenshin
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If I dislike anyone without having played the game, it's Azama.
Pervert, his entire support with Kagerou is talking about her boobs. Get out of here.
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dancingswan
Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:31 pm
Depends on what kind of mage. In Awakening, a Dark Knight and a Sorcerer could very well survive a hit, if it's Awakening we're talking about. Especially the latter, since they'll likely activate Vengence, be equipped with Nosferatu, kill you, and heal all their lost HP back.

idk, I always thought the two were balanced. You just have to use them for different purposes. Pegasus Knights have always been fantastic units, though I wasn't the biggest fan in Path of Radiance, mainly because they just came at weird times. They have incredible crit chance, and evasion on top of super high resistance. So they make great Mage killers, even if the Mage has wind magic. I've never really had a problem taking anything out with a PK since they double literally everything, and are probably going to crit on both hits.
well I did say that awakening was the least kind to the wyverns and kinder to the pegasus knights, given the pegasus could be mages and get galeforce.

in earlier games it was stacked much more in the other direction imo.
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Was looking up Digimon Cyber Sleuth. I found my favorite new digimon.

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I'm sorry, but something about his mustache made me laugh for bad reasons.

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Uesugi Kenshin
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^^KASUGA IS A DIGIMON PROFESSOR
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:35 pm.
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I still want to save up to buy that Tharja figurine.
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Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:27 pm
On the opposite end of the spectrum, generals and knights have been very strong in certain games due to their ability to wade into the enemy field of vision, draw enemies out and act as an effective frontline.

very stupid in shadow dragon
I agree. Great Knights I think are really underwhelming and kind of overrated, but Paladins and Generals are fantastic units and always will be. General is my favorite reoccuring class along with Soldier/Spearmen.

In Fates, the heirarchy is Paladin > General > Great Knight. The only real purpose Great Knight has right now is giving the Luna skill, and even then Skill% Proc skills have fallen slightly out of favor in Fates. Paladin is fantastic this game, especially if you make your Main Character have a Mag+ asset since Levin Sword is really good this game.

I really like General growths in this game, and the two generals you encounter in Fates show how versatile Generals can be. One excels in Strength which is stat that often gets overlooked when it comes to Generals, and the other has incredible Defense. I really like that they did that.
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Kasugamon best digimon.
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Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:33 pm
well I did say that awakening was the least kind to the wyverns and kinder to the pegasus knights, given the pegasus could be mages and get galeforce.

in earlier games it was stacked much more in the other direction imo.
Oh yeah, most definitely. Jill was broken as hell if you used her right in Path of Radience.
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Hoenn Safari Zone is a troll in ORAS while you're not Champion yet :hmmm:

Hunting for Pokémon that should be male when I capture them. But I caught female ones so I can find them in the DexNav more easily.
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Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:32 pm
Is it because he's a sadboy? If so I get it then, I don't often like sadboys either unless they're more legit sad than grumpy. Otherwise I'm reading his personality and not seeing anything objectionable.
It's because


  • He's ugly
  • He's annoying
  • I like Setsuna more
  • His support with Azura is incredibly uncomfortable
  • He's ugly
  • Oboro loves him, which in turn makes her problematic
  • He's annoying
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^That's too opinionated.
Aslo Gong Xi Fat Cai!
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Well I'm a very opinionated lady! I thought this has been established?
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opinions are problematic
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Uesugi Kenshin
Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:33 pm
If I dislike anyone without having played the game, it's Azama.
Pervert, his entire support with Kagerou is talking about her boobs. Get out of here.
Says him, as he has a Kagerou avatar.

You're just jealous. :doge:
Takumi's son is cute tho.
Edited by Eni, Sun Feb 7, 2016 11:45 pm.
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