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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,968,902 Views)
Nuriko
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Exactly That's why I want her,to Make Zhang Fei seem a pedophile rapist and villifying one of the big three is a Win in my book
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tmma1869
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I forgot what I was supposed to search.
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Ryō Genken
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LittleMonsterSakura
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:10 am
Ew to that. Just look at backlash DOAX3 got over aging up characters. Though they aged down Liu Bei to make him look similar in age to Sun Shangxiang.
Not just Liu Bei but Sun Quan too.
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ChibiGingi
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Ryō Genken
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:08 am
My ideal scenario for Zhang Fei's death, is they hinted on Zhang Fei's kidnapping on Xiahouji and did "something" to her. Xiahouji knows that, and stated she can help him but choose not to as his punishment. Either Zhang Fei got angered or just accept his death is totally up to Koei.
ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:08 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:06 am
Adding Xiahouji condones pedophilia :tora:
Then age her up.

It's not the first time Koei's altered ages to suit their whims.

Besides, what's in an age with Koei? Lu Meng's 29 but the ************ clearly acts like he's in his 60's (even though historically he only made it to 41 or 42 before meeting death from overexhaustion/ghostigoo of Guan Yu).
I remember Swan said it still didnt help. You may age her up, changes her age and appearance to be mpre legal. But the base design of her being a loli is still there and exist.
I guess you could change her outfit and NOT make her blatant lolita, but that'd mean Koei's design department would actually have to do work and make her a likeable character and not bank on people flocking over to her simply because 'LOLI'. :whistle:

But nah, that'd be effort and why give a character a unique personality and appearance when you can easily slap on lolibait and most of the work is done itself?

Edit: I mean, I know they're NOT going to ever villify Zhang Fei, even though he was a pretty grey character to begin with (to me, he was the most human of the 3 brothers in the fact that he actually had consistent flaws but he usually meant well... sometimes... when he was drunk or too angry to think).

But ****, I just want his death to be in a cut scene and not just some messenger running in to say "oh, btw, he dead".
Edited by ChibiGingi, Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:14 am.
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Ryō Genken
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Agree. Lolibait really works well just like other "bait"(Like "trapbait" or "gaybait" ).
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Nuriko
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THEN WHY THE HELL CAN'T THEY AGE UP THE QIAO SISTERS?!!!!! for crying out loud their blast designs are GORGEOUS they should use them instead of making awesome characters like Zhou Yu and Sun Ce come off as pedophiles x.x
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tmma1869
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But Sun Quan is younger than Sun Ce. Pre-DW6 he looked like he was the eldest with the thick beard.
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Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:13 am
Agree. Lolibait really works well just like other "bait"(Like "trapbait" or "gaybait" ).
:2up:

Pretty much.

Edit: Look, my only complaint with beardless Sun Quan is that the beard was his effin' icon. Purple Beard Green Eyed (rat). Without it, he's just not the same.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:16 am.
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Angelic Linca
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Sun Quan is partying ruler though.
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MeowMeow
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YEAH BABY ;)
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Ryō Genken
Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:37 am
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Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:34 am
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Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:34 am
OMM: It disgusts me, when someone hates SW!Ieyasu because of his appearance compsred to his Basara version. It's not just him, Katsuie got that treatment too. But oh well human beings are always shallow.
Blame the Fujoshis :lol: :XD
Nah, it's just our damn mindset for girls too. I mean i too think, if the girl is fat, i'll think twice for a sec.

But i bet if the Young!SW-Ieyasu appears and a hunk/bishie, the fujoshis would ram up to him. Just like, when seeing ugly girl becomes hottie. Ah human beings..
I know, it applies too the other way

But in fiction, there are rarely any unattractive females... :whistle: :lol:
Japan loves loli, so they'll never age the Qiaos unfortunately :lol:
Edited by MeowMeow, Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:17 am.
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ChibiGingi
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Yeah, unattractive females that aren't either a joke or BG character are pretty rare.
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Ryō Genken
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Many medias follows this..so you cant exactly blame only Koei. I mean everyone didnt even bother with "trapbait" like Nayuta or Ranmaru.
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MeowMeow
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Ryō Genken
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:17 am
Many medias follows this..so you cant exactly blame only Koei. I mean everyone didnt even bother with "trapbait" like Nayuta or Ranmaru.
KOEI is nowhere close to the biggest offender in this regard :XD

(Though Team Ninja and Tecmo are pretty close :P )
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ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:17 am
Yeah, unattractive females that aren't either a joke or BG character are pretty rare.
Mitsuko Nonomura only example I can think of in this category.
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MeowMeow
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I remember I *honestly* thought Ranmaru was a girl in WO1 (because I never played SW at the time) and I was like "...WHHHHAAAAAA.... " :XD :XD :XD :oran: :oran: I thought (s)he was hot as hell :XD at first :P
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ChibiGingi
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Oh yeah, other countries do it too. American Hollywood has their own trophs and traps and they're equally annoying.

Like, how can you tell who's going to die in an action film? Look for Michelle Rodriguez or Sean Bean in the cast and you have your answer (they have survived before, but they usually die in films).
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Ryō Genken
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About Beard Quan, this is practically why i want age system. But truth to be told, i don't really condone it. If that's the case Suo/Yinping despite fictional are aged at min probably 16 by fall of Shu they would have been over 60 yrs old. I'd rather **** the age and just release it as separate costume.
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ChibiGingi
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Silly, pretty boys and girls don't get old!
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ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:23 am
Silly, pretty boys and girls don't get old!
And are all loved by Japanese fanbases.
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ChibiGingi
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TMMA1869
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:24 am
ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:23 am
Silly, pretty boys and girls don't get old!
And are all loved by Japanese fanbases.
And weeaboos.
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MeowMeow
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I'll only use the age feature for the older characters or those who last a long time. (The "younger" folks in Shu and stuff can stay fairly young, maybe a slight mustache or something to represent time passing. )

Ieyasu should have an age system (Switching from Bishounen to Tanuki at Mikatagahara)

Cao Cao (Start beardless, get regular DW Cao Cao at Guandu, get white hair and beard after Chibi)

Liu Bei (Beardless to start, bearded after Chang Ban)

Hell we can even have "young" Huang Zhong :XD (if he appears in the YT scenario in Empires, he can have black hair and beard with less wrinkles)

Qiaos could "grow up" with two models :lol:

Lu Bu should get a 5'o clock shadow after Dong Zhuo dies
Mitsunari could get a mustache or 5 o clock shadow at Sekigahara

And so on...

Don't think the Suns need one...
Edited by MeowMeow, Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:26 am.
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Ryō Genken
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Quan's a pretty boy, and i DARE say without his grey hair and small beard Liao Hua can pass off as one.
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ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:25 am
TMMA1869
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:24 am
ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:23 am
Silly, pretty boys and girls don't get old!
And are all loved by Japanese fanbases.
And weeaboos.
It's so sad Genken is right about shallowness.
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ChibiGingi
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The only "young" character I want is a "Young" Lu Meng skin as DLC.

And that's purely for selfish reasons.
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MeowMeow
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Ryō Genken
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:25 am
Quan's a pretty boy, and i DARE say without his grey hair and small beard Liao Hua can pass off as one.
If he appears, Liao Hua should get two models (black hair, then what it is now in Blast :lol: )
ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:27 am
The only "young" character I want is a "Young" Lu Meng skin as DLC.

And that's purely for selfish reasons.
He can switch over to the current model after Chibi :lol:
Edited by MeowMeow, Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:27 am.
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