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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,968,843 Views)
Mr. Kamikaze
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I mean, she is boring...there is nothing fascinating or interesting about her whatsoever

but that doesn't mean her DW counterpart can't make up for it, either through personality, moveset, how she interacts with other characters, etc.
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ChibiGingi
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Sounds boring.

Add explosions, wild horse chases and a wicked dance number and maybe I'll care about her.

Edit: Yeah, they could take liberties with her and do some amazing stuff, but... hahaha, I won't count on it. They've taken SSX and tamed the hell out of her and she was once fire herself.

But who knows, maybe if they do include her, she'll actually be interesting and fun.

Her moveset should include exploding barrels.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:54 am.
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MeowMeow
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Not much less interesting than Liao Hua novel-wise tbh :lol:

Sorry Ryo :P

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ChibiGingi
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There needs to be more explosions in DW.

Michael Bay it up.

Go nuts.
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Wild Lion
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Give it to Platinum

Lu Bu May Cry
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ChibiGingi
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GOTY
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Well, tbh, even if they did just give her the Bao Sanniang/Cai Wenji treatment and just made her playable and then did nothing at all with her...I don't think I would mind that much.
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Ryō Genken
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I mean yeah, i'm pretty disappointed with Naomasa who i want after Nobuyuki. I wish he looks more like Xu Sheng(Wild imagery). Liao Hua already had good design, but if he is just benevolent shoutbox.. though No.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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There's these two women who, while kinda irrelevant to RotK, were contemporaries of the story and I think would be amazing additions.

There's this one bandit woman who kept giving Cao Cao trouble, but she was eventually caught and killed. She might be a cool addition. I forget her name though.

There's also Trieu Au, a heroine known as the Joan of Arc of Vietnam. She's described as being nine feet tall, with three-foot long breasts, and being an exceedingly striking beauty. Due to Wu's occupation of Vietnam, she raised her countrymen to fight back against Wu. She's said to have worn bright yellow robes and rode on elephant heads into battle. Her most famous quote (and only one I can find in English) is "I'd like to ride storms, kill sharks in the open sea, drive out the aggressors, reconquer the country, undo the ties of serfdom, and never bend my back to be the concubine of whatever man."

Her rebellion was put down by a Lu Yin, though and she only appears in Vietnamese records and later Chinese records- contemporary Chinese records only mention there being a rebellion in southern Wu.
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MeowMeow
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(I only played Naomasa in SW4 Empires) I thought he was alright, his moveset was cool. Made it awkward with Naotora looking so young and innocent though... :lol:

Capcom should really troll KOEI and make a Basara-like game series based on ROTK, spice up everything and anything. It'll be hilarious, it'll piss KOEI off, it'll make their game better too in the long run due to the urgency of COMPETITION.

That said, Japanese entertainment is on a permanent down cycle due to the low birth rate. The only way to make money is to cater to the hard core otakus who buy the seiyuu CDs and the merch and DLCs for their favorite characters. Its not just a KOEI problem. The Japanese economy as a whole is on a long term down spiral, their population will drop by like 30 million in the next few decades. I dunno. They'll either have to *really* expand overseas to survive, or just... try to ply for the otakus in Akihabara.... :lol:

Abe Shinzo's "Abenomics" seems to have failed...

Woah long rant :lol:
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ChibiGingi
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Mr. Kamikaze
Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:57 am
Well, tbh, even if they did just give her the Bao Sanniang/Cai Wenji treatment and just made her playable and then did nothing at all with her...I don't think I would mind that much.
A sad truth of the matter that the more interesting characters are the ones that Koei adds and then proceeds to waste while continuously beating the same dead horses over and over again.

HONESTLY, I have absolutely no real expectations on new characters. Really, I don't. Sure, I'd be alright with Yuan Shu, and the characters I do want are more because I know other people here want them more (I have nothing against Liao Hua but I'll always root for him for Ryo's sake). Even my 'I want Kat's version of Lu Meng's mom' is obviously a joke ;)

I'd rather then utilize the characters they do have that they've been neglecting, but I know that isn't going to happen. Wei doesn't really need anymore new characters after DW8XL, they just need to do more with the ones they constantly neglect (like Cao Ren, Xu Huang, Cai Wenji).

Wei's got a great cast, but dammit is most of them aren't ignored. I'm so bored with Xiahou Dun, it's not even funny. So, you know... can we please give SOME focus to how Xu Huang totally WRECKED the supposedly 'God of War' at Fan castle? No? Just going to keep this whole BS rivalry with Xiahou Dun thing going?

*sigh* FIIIIIIIIINE.
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MeowMeow
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Uesugi Kenshin
Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:59 am
There's also Trieu Au, a heroine known as the Joan of Arc of Vietnam. She's described as being nine feet tall, with three-foot long breasts, and being an exceedingly striking beauty. Due to Wu's occupation of Vietnam, she raised her countrymen to fight back against Wu. She's said to have worn bright yellow robes and rode on elephant heads into battle. Her most famous quote (and only one I can find in English) is "I'd like to ride storms, kill sharks in the open sea, drive out the aggressors, reconquer the country, undo the ties of serfdom, and never bend my back to be the concubine of whatever man."

Her rebellion was put down by a Lu Yin, though and she only appears in Vietnamese records and later Chinese records- contemporary Chinese records only mention there being a rebellion in southern Wu.
This will be amazing but while it will win a lot of Vietnamese fans (who would be happy to have *any* representation at all) it will cause a backlash among the "loyal" Chinese fanbase of DW.... and KOEI will never want that :P

Stupid nationalism on all sides but thats the reality :facepalm:
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MeowMeow
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YEAH BABY ;)
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Wild Lion
Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:04 am
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Yes, Red Hare being a motorcycle will be the start of "Dynasty Basara!" :sly:

And Lu Bu's catchphrase should be in Engrish as well: "I'll kick your ass" or something :lol:

Yes, English, even in the Japanese dub. Hooooo boy :ph43r:
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Uesugi Kenshin
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It would be neat to have Lu Bu cast in a positive light for once- too often he's portrayed as a monster. He was really no worse than anyone else at the time, he just betrayed people a bunch... as did a bunch of others hailed as heroes.

Hmm, game with a noble rebel Lu Bu with his sidekick Diaochan, running rampant across China....
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ChibiGingi
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Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:04 am
Uesugi Kenshin
Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:59 am
There's also Trieu Au, a heroine known as the Joan of Arc of Vietnam. She's described as being nine feet tall, with three-foot long breasts, and being an exceedingly striking beauty. Due to Wu's occupation of Vietnam, she raised her countrymen to fight back against Wu. She's said to have worn bright yellow robes and rode on elephant heads into battle. Her most famous quote (and only one I can find in English) is "I'd like to ride storms, kill sharks in the open sea, drive out the aggressors, reconquer the country, undo the ties of serfdom, and never bend my back to be the concubine of whatever man."

Her rebellion was put down by a Lu Yin, though and she only appears in Vietnamese records and later Chinese records- contemporary Chinese records only mention there being a rebellion in southern Wu.
This will be amazing but while it will win a lot of Vietnamese fans (who would be happy to have *any* representation at all) it will cause a backlash among the "loyal" Chinese fanbase of DW.... and KOEI will never want that :P

Stupid nationalism on all sides but thats the reality :facepalm:
Yeah, I mean, look how long it took China to introduce Lu Meng and the whole thing of Wu's betrayal at Fan Castle in their Three Kingdoms reboots... and he WAS Chinese.

I'll never forget watching that series and being so utterly disappointed that Lu Meng and the whole Jing province thing was glossed over, like they were ashamed that their beloved God of War got too arrogant and was betrayed by his own people whom he treated like garbage when the next guy came and out-benevolenced them.
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Ryō Genken
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@Chibi: There's Wang Ping but his design is SO NOT GOOD in Blast.
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MeowMeow
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And Diao Chan should become like Bayonetta :sly:
Femme Fatale rather than demure girl :sly:

Guan yu's beard goes to the ground
Zhang Fei is a literal ogre 10 feet tall :lol: who smokes cigars :P
Liu Bei being a gay bishounen :lol:


Come on Capcom, Dynasty Basara, do it :sly:
Uesugi Kenshin
Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:07 am
It would be neat to have Lu Bu cast in a positive light for once- too often he's portrayed as a monster. He was really no worse than anyone else at the time, he just betrayed people a bunch... as did a bunch of others hailed as heroes.

Hmm, game with a noble rebel Lu Bu with his sidekick Diaochan, running rampant across China....
That'll be pretty sweet :cool:

Bayonetta Diao Chan and Motorcycle-riding and cigar chomping Engrish-spouting Lu Bu rampaging China in "Dynasty Basara" :cool:
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Ryō Genken
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^ Cao Cao would be the protag then. Pls Capcom pls.
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ChibiGingi
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Zhao Yun can be a ninja.

Because there always has to be a ninja.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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English-speaking Lu Bu would make no sense. Makes a modicum of sense with Masamune due to his Western fetish he shared with Nobunaga... but Lu Bu? Nah.

Maybe give him a pheasant to ride on his shoulder like some kind of a hawk, due to his pheasant feathers on his helmet. IDK.
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MeowMeow
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Zhang Fei is a literal 10 foot stone mountain. His muscles are so granite they're *literally* granite :XD :P

Oh man this is fun :P

If the'yre really pushing the envelope,

ZL and Liu Bei in a seme-uke shown openly :lol: ZL peppers his speech with English words even in the JPN dub to show he's "smart" :P
Uesugi Kenshin
Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:13 am
English-speaking Lu Bu would make no sense. Makes a modicum of sense with Masamune due to his Western fetish he shared with Nobunaga... but Lu Bu? Nah.

Maybe give him a pheasant to ride on his shoulder like some kind of a hawk, due to his pheasant feathers on his helmet. IDK.
Its basara, doesn't have to make sense, its just to troll everyone :XD
Edited by MeowMeow, Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:14 am.
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ChibiGingi
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Yeah, about to say, it doesn't HAVE to make sense, it's BASARA.

Take your logic and leave it at the door, loser!
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MeowMeow
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OMG I'm laughing :lol: :P Dynasty Basara would be pretty awesome tbh I would love an anime for it too :P

A "troll" version of ROTK :lol:

I wonder how the Chinese audience would take it? :P

Though the pheasant sidekick who wears sunglasses would be a cool idea, especially for an anime :sly:
Edited by MeowMeow, Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:17 am.
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ChibiGingi
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SSX can be this musclebound bara chick and every time she sees Liu Bei goes into Kasuga-like monologues of gasping and touching herself while screaming his name.
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