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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,967,850 Views)
UpInMahBubble
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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Ah Swan the AoA song previews :kasugasm: :kasugasm:

Good Luck sounds amazing. But I'm really excited to hear 10 Seconds and Cherry Pop
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I picked the cheapest option(because even then, the shipping was like $20) which means, I believe, 10~30 business days. But it's never taken this long......

It's only been two-ish weeks so.... It's still got time I'm just worried.
UpInMahBubble
Thu May 12, 2016 7:14 pm
Ah Swan the AoA song previews :kasugasm: :kasugasm:

Good Luck sounds amazing. But I'm really excited to hear 10 Seconds and Cherry Pop
I know!!!!!!!! :kasugasm:
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UpInMahBubble
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Yeah I know the feeling. I got worried cause my 4Walls poster arrived like a week and a half before the albums.

Still Falls the Rain is really good, I loved it on their newest Japanese single
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I really don't see the problem with having all one gender in a game. I don't need games to have a character who looks like me, or panders to my fetishes to enjoy playing it. Variety is great, which is why I think games shouldn't have to conform to the same generic checklist of diversity for their casts. I think it's cool that some games can have a big ensemble cast, and some other games can have a cohesive, similar cast.

Let creators do what they hell they want.
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UpInMahBubble
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I think games are more fun when there's a variety of characters tbh. Like it's why I love fighting games a lot cause there's always so many different people.

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UpInMahBubble
Thu May 12, 2016 7:17 pm
Yeah I know the feeling. I got worried cause my 4Walls poster arrived like a week and a half before the albums.

That probably would have made me think twice too. A week and a half is a little too much.

To be honest I'm sort of glad I don't use KPOPTOWN in this case then.

How much did it cost for your Page Two?
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The problem isn't one gender parties, the problem is the really ignorant reasons for excluding women. Like Sengoku Basara's reason is incredibly silly. Like we get that you want to pander to a certain audience. Like I would've respected some crap like "we truly wanted to deepen the relationships centered around Yukimura, and we added his father and brother over some significant women around him due to them being popular characters and central to telling Yukimura's tale". Like that would be cool. But that garbage excuse they gave is just... garbage, lol.
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Thu May 12, 2016 7:23 pm
UpInMahBubble
Thu May 12, 2016 7:17 pm
Yeah I know the feeling. I got worried cause my 4Walls poster arrived like a week and a half before the albums.

That probably would have made me think twice too. A week and a half is a little too much.

To be honest I'm sort of glad I don't use KPOPTOWN in this case then.

How much did it cost for your Page Two?
All together? $43.80

Keep in mind, it's two albums, and two posters.
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I don't care what the reason is, if it was a bad decision the sales will show that.

I mean Senran Kagura found a reliable niche audience, maybe Basara is going to start going after the opposite audience.
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Well obviously, I was speaking for the people who are critiquing the creator's reasoning for excluding women.

A niche game, going for even a nicher(?) audience. What brilliant marketing, Capcom steadily knocking it out the park.
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Well seems like I'm gonna have to get my hands a little dirty.
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dancingswan
Thu May 12, 2016 7:24 pm
The problem isn't one gender parties, the problem is the really ignorant reasons for excluding women. Like Sengoku Basara's reason is incredibly silly. Like we get that you want to pander to a certain audience. Like I would've respected some crap like "we truly wanted to deepen the relationships centered around Yukimura, and we added his father and brother over some significant women around him due to them being popular characters and central to telling Yukimura's tale". Like that would be cool. But that garbage excuse they gave is just... garbage, lol.
LittleDragonZ
Thu May 12, 2016 7:23 pm
UpInMahBubble
Thu May 12, 2016 7:17 pm
Yeah I know the feeling. I got worried cause my 4Walls poster arrived like a week and a half before the albums.

That probably would have made me think twice too. A week and a half is a little too much.

To be honest I'm sort of glad I don't use KPOPTOWN in this case then.

How much did it cost for your Page Two?
All together? $43.80

Keep in mind, it's two albums, and two posters.
I think that's good considering the journey is longer for you. My equivalent to dollars came to 40.42. For two albums, two posters. Yet have always had the poster and album together because I get the folded ones.

I just use eBay's Buy It Now and for new KPop albums expect to pay around 20 dollars covering the P&P.

Most of the stores I've used have been extensive with information too. Like listing the packaging type because it's best to be sent a box instead of a plastic package to avoid damage, be it minor or worse.
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Not to mention that "historicity" isn't an issue for this game, as much as they'd like to claim otherwise. Nothing historical about glowing skulls engraved in cliffsides or literal magic tricks sucking up whole armies or summoning moving statues- or more mundanely, the Shibata army helping with the extermination of the Takeda. So saying "it's historical" (even though it isn't) as a reason for excluding characters- women and Shingen alike- is bull****. It's just insulting. At least give a reason that doesn't treat us like idiots. We KNOW Capcom's willing to bend history for this "historical" title if it fits them.

Also I ain't stopping them. I just personally want at least one of the ladies in the game because they're awesome characters. But if they don't want to include them, they don't have to, that's fine. They just lose my support, lol.

Also note that I wasn't expecting many playable characters at all, so I wasn't expecting a playable girl. But the implication KobaP gave, from what I understand, is that there will be no female NPCs involved in the stages or story either. Which is... really bizarre. And dumb, given the reasoning they gave.

I also don't feel they're trying to niche their way into a smaller audience either. If that were they case, they'd be more blatant with the ship teasing in the trailers- but interaction between Masamune and Yukimura is absent in the ones they're both in. I think they're just making poor design decisions for this spinoff title. That's nothing new- the PSP Basara games had substandard gameplay and they based the balancing of the fighting game on loc tests which were DOMINATED not by fighting game fans but by casuals who wanted to play their favorite character- which lead to Oichi being broken to hell and back and Kenshin, Nobunaga and Tadakatsu each having an easy to execute infinite because almost no one tested them.
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I can't believe they're making me suffer Katsuie being in the game and he's with Toshiie when it should be Matsu :xiao:
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Katsuie is a mistake.
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I don't even get Katsuie's presence. Makes no historical sense, he has no connections to Yukimura in the series, and in spite of Capcom's valiant attempts, he's not that popular- IIRC, Sakon, Matabei, and Ashikaga are moreso, but I could be wrong.

Really should have just modeled Nouhime and Ranmaru. Would've made more sense from a characterization perspective and for Ranmaru a historical perspective.
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dancingswan
Thu May 12, 2016 8:01 pm
Katsuie is a mistake.
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Katsuie is a mistake.
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Thu May 12, 2016 8:01 pm
Katsuie is a mistake.
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So proud of all three of you with your good taste :smugracia:
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I just didn't want to be left out.
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Now from this day officially I fear Nayeon.
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Calm Mew lol
Also I like Basara Katsuie much better than Musou Katsuie
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Well we've already established you have poor taste anyway :smugracia:
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