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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,966,309 Views)
Fräulein
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bubble it's us
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UpInMahBubble
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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Aaaw baby dino :heart:
Karamatsu
Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:34 am
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bubble it's us
Nice :doge:
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dancingswan
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Nuriko
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Uesugi Kenshin
Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:31 am
For the last time.

Yukimura.
Abandoned.
His.
Family.
Not.
Nobuyuki.

At of the end of the Sekigahara conflict, Masayuki and Yukimura were stripped of their lands, partially due to relation to Otani Yoshitsugu and partially for their Western allegiance. So Nobuyuki was now the only true member of the main branch of that family left as the other two were banished and disenfranchised.

Then in 1614 Yukimura left his place of banishment to answer "Hideyori's" call to resist the Tokugawa. Ieyasu, rather than just labeling him a traitor, which he could have done and did do for others such as the Chosokabe, asked Nobuyuki to convince Yukimura to step down from defending Osaka and re-join the Sanada. Yukimura, here, had a second chance, his brother *helping* him.

Yukimura refused that help stubbornly, preferring to put his life on the line for Hideyori. And he did.

The tale of the Sanada brothers is a sad one, but between the two there are no villains.

It's not like Yukimura was still a kid at the time either. He was a grown ass man nearing his 50s. So the whole "you're supposed to defend your brother ALWAYS" doesn't work here.

Really, Nobuyuki had two choices once Yukimura made his decision. He could either try to save Yukimura and have his whole family die... or save his whole family minus Yukimura. He had to do the responsible thing. There would not have been a fairytale ending if Nobuyuki decided to switch sides- the Sanada were not very major players at all on the offensive side of things, especially compared to the close Tokugawa retainers along with the Uesugi and Date.

Lemme put it this way- isn't it more important to defend your wife and children than defend your brother?
I'd kill someone who threatened my husband and Son,what's that got to do with anything ?
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Mr. Kamikaze
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when looking for just normal, friendly gifs and you end up going down a terrible well of porn gifs

you sort of just get distracted and lost for a while...and then wonder how you even got there in the first place...
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Netherrealm just stop. You're embarrassing yourselves at this point.
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Poor Mew, he types up all these facts just for you to barely glance at them

Don't worry Mew, I enjoy your ramblings
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Fräulein
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...I can't believe
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I bet you were looking for the porn gifs in the first place Kami
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Fräulein
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me every day on here
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We MK4 again

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dancingswan
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Me when I log onto KW and see there's no scans
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Mr. Kamikaze
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the game is a whole year away, that is plenty of time to clean things up along the way.
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Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:37 am
Uesugi Kenshin
Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:31 am
For the last time.

Yukimura.
Abandoned.
His.
Family.
Not.
Nobuyuki.

At of the end of the Sekigahara conflict, Masayuki and Yukimura were stripped of their lands, partially due to relation to Otani Yoshitsugu and partially for their Western allegiance. So Nobuyuki was now the only true member of the main branch of that family left as the other two were banished and disenfranchised.

Then in 1614 Yukimura left his place of banishment to answer "Hideyori's" call to resist the Tokugawa. Ieyasu, rather than just labeling him a traitor, which he could have done and did do for others such as the Chosokabe, asked Nobuyuki to convince Yukimura to step down from defending Osaka and re-join the Sanada. Yukimura, here, had a second chance, his brother *helping* him.

Yukimura refused that help stubbornly, preferring to put his life on the line for Hideyori. And he did.

The tale of the Sanada brothers is a sad one, but between the two there are no villains.

It's not like Yukimura was still a kid at the time either. He was a grown ass man nearing his 50s. So the whole "you're supposed to defend your brother ALWAYS" doesn't work here.

Really, Nobuyuki had two choices once Yukimura made his decision. He could either try to save Yukimura and have his whole family die... or save his whole family minus Yukimura. He had to do the responsible thing. There would not have been a fairytale ending if Nobuyuki decided to switch sides- the Sanada were not very major players at all on the offensive side of things, especially compared to the close Tokugawa retainers along with the Uesugi and Date.

Lemme put it this way- isn't it more important to defend your wife and children than defend your brother?
I'd kill someone who threatened my husband and Son,what's that got to do with anything ?
And there IS a Clear Villain: Ieyasu he wanted power that wasn't his he should have left well enough alone and let Hideyori take the throne which is why I call him a hypocrite. Someone who truly wants peace wouldn't Create MORE bloodshed when the conflict was over they'd Lay down their arms and help rebuild the land,help guide the new ruler. Ieyasu was a power Monger nothing more. It's the same reason I get annoyed at people who call Liu Shan a coward
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Thank the nine I wasn't here for that Koshosho bashing or I'd smack a bitch. :sakichi:
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UpInMahBubble
Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:41 am
Me when I log onto KW and see there's no scans
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Fräulein
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every day on here is a huge disappointment
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Wild Lion
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:41 am
the game is a whole year away, that is plenty of time to clean things up along the way.
This is Netherrealm. Come on guy.
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:41 am
the game is a whole year away, that is plenty of time to clean things up along the way.


A year away, and like 50 characters away. Give me 1 character in a scan a week

dancingswan
Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:42 am
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Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:41 am
Me when I log onto KW and see there's no scans
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That's me when there is scans. I'm so happy the tears just flow
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Blue Beetle's face is gold.
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dancingswan
Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:42 am
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Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:41 am
Me when I log onto KW and see there's no scans
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Shogun

There was still a figurehead Emperor so the throne wasn't in danger.
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DMRevolution
Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:42 am
Thank the nine I wasn't here for that Koshosho bashing or I'd smack a bitch. :sakichi:
Just wait another 3-12 hours before it's inevitably brought up again
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