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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,965,378 Views)
Nuriko
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I'd come spend time with you when Anthony Is a bit older n.n
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YEAH BABY ;)
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Nuriko
Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:27 am
I'd come spend time with you when Anthony Is a bit older n.n
https://www.kayak.com/flight-routes/Houston-George-Bush-Intcntl-IAH/Hong-Kong-Intl-HKG

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(Wait... Houston's airport is named "George Bush"???? :XD :OMG: )
Or how about we compromise, we'll all go to Socal and meet Rance IRL as well how about that? ^_^
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Nuriko
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Hell yeah we can do a KW reunion we can bring Bellbell with
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MeowMeow
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Bellbell has to fly from NJ :lol: Well, hopefully.
At least the North Americans from KW, I can hope to meet IRL someday ^_^

Hopefully Lynnie can come from Toronto ^_^
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Nuriko
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Ooh yes and Chibi too she's like a Day's drive away from me XD
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MeowMeow
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But we're meeting in Socal.... :lol:
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Nuriko
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So? I'll drag her ass to my Place the day before I'm ALMOST positive she'll survive the night In the Guest Room with the cats Not 100% sure thou
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Tranquilize the cats ahead of time. If they stir, tranquilize them again :sly:
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Okay I'm not confident at all the cats will be like "who dis bish and why is she in OUR room?"
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Just go to Socal and meet everyone :lol: Meet up with Chibi at a restaurant or something and then drive to Socal if you must. Rance, Uncle Tombo, I, and whoever else wants to join will wait ^_^
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Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:06 am
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Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:59 am
Brother
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@ Rance

For the Qing, yes since they ruled a much larger and much more heterogenous territory than the Tokugawa ever did, yes they faced more rebellions, especially in their western provinces. However, these campaigns were after 1660 or so (why I put the date for "Pax Asiaticus" starting at 1670 or so) far away from China's heartland, and the Manchus were more tolerant of Han Chinese culture than the Yuan were, to the point where they ended up assimilating themselves (!!!!) :XD

Qing China had a mini-golden age, the very last flowering of "traditional" Chinese culture under Kangxi, Yongzheng and Qianlong before events overtook them. Japan went through its own internal development and yes there was some knowledge from Deshima and its impossible for ANY place not to change in 200 years, no matter how isolated.

I'd say the Tokugawa founded Japan as they are today, serious and hard working, conscientious, polite. The Sengoku was known for having a bunch of rascally warlords (Nobunaga was seen as a rascal at the time), the politeness protocols of the Tokugawa, the tight social control and the strict discipline of the Tokugawa overtaking the gaudy ostentatiousness of Hideyoshi and Nobunaga
Yeah, I agree with all of this.

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Or how about we compromise, we'll all go to Socal and meet Rance IRL as well how about that?


:/

I'm not really big on meetups.

I know Randy (from this forum) irl though.
Edited by Rance, Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:02 am.
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Nuriko
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Don't be a Stick in the Mud we can all go for Sushi
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However, one of the reasons the Sengoku remains enduringly popular in the Japanese popular imagination is that the Sengoku people were "larger than life". They held big tea ceremonies, fought big battles, incorporated or rejected newfangled ideas, "the low overthrow the high" (gekokujo)... it was such a massive contrast to the relative stability of the Edo that came after it. The Sengoku was "exciting", but if you were a peasant at the time, I guarantee you would have traded that "excitement" for the "boring" Edo bakufu in a heartbeat, heck if you were a merchant, even if you were the "lowest tier" in society, you would still take the stability of the Edo.

Seen from distant lens of course, the Sengoku is glorified as a "heroic era", much like the ROTK novel in China
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Rance
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"I'll drag my tail in the mud"~badly out of context Zhuangzi quote
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The Tokugawa were very strict on hierarchy, protocol, manners and custom which still affects Japan to this day. They also finally unified Japan into a truly single, unified entity, seeing as previously the Daimyo would split off whenever they sensed weakness in the centre. The Tokugawa ended all that "excitement". To a manga reader of popular history, of course, this is "BORING!" But if you actually lived then, I'd think most people would appreciate the relative peace and stability of the Edo era.
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Yeah the Sengoku period was probably a nightmare to live in. I guess the only upside is that some people of [relatively] low birth could rise in social stature through military service or guile. It was probably harder to do that during the Edo and the samurai landlords were probably rapacious. A lot of them had trouble making ends meet economically and so they likely taxed their subjects heavily.
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Rance
Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:09 am
Yeah the Sengoku period was probably a nightmare to live in. I guess the only upside is that some people of [relatively] low birth could rise in social stature through military service or guile. It was probably harder to do that during the Edo and the samurai landlords were probably rapacious. A lot of them had trouble making ends meet economically and so they likely taxed their subjects heavily.
This is true of any war like vs any peaceful period of historical development anywhere in the world, really.

Would you have wanted the excitement of being a knight in armor leading hordes of Scottish pikemen against the English? Or would you have rather been a monk holed up in a monastery?

Of course, my videogaming self would pick the knight every time for some Mount and Blade action :cool: but IRL I would pick the monk every.single.time :lol:
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Nuriko
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Monk I'd rather be left the hell alone
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Nuriko
Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:14 am
Monk I'd rather be left the hell alone
But you could "lead your clan to glory!" :hey: :hey:

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Naw, I agree with you :hehe: . Monk every time :lol: :XD
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Rance
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I'm gonna be the ******* Pope!
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Nuriko
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People respect the Monks I'd live longer that way
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I'll be a hypocritical and corrupt monk/pope though. None of that chastity or poverty bullshit. I'm gonna have kids and own lots of land and wealth.
I'll also call some cheesy crusade on some fellow christian prince who pisses me off, just to get their land and wealth. It'll be like Albigensian type of nonsense. Deus vult!
Edited by Rance, Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:26 am.
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Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:21 am
I'll be a hypocritical and corrupt monk/pope though. None of that chastity or poverty bullshit. I'm gonna have kids and own lots of land and wealth.
I'll also call some cheesy crusade on some fellow christian prince who pisses me off, just to get their land and wealth. It'll be like Albigensian type of nonsense. Deus vult!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvpZnvPq9Xs

:beard: :hehe:
Fine, I'm going to be the king of a major European faction, and wipe out the Papal states and install my churchmen as pope and cardinals :sly: ....

:lol:
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Sleep ain't happening. *siggggggggh*
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Oh HELL YEAH my Uncle went Gator hunting. I JUST Got Brought A nice sized Gator. That's good eats
At one in the freaking morning thou x.x I swear Manners do not exist to that man
Edited by Nuriko, Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:43 am.
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