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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,965,160 Views)
MeowMeow
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Nuriko
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:43 am
Korea (in laws),Germany (Aunts and Uncles),Japan (my Aunt by Marriage's family),Brazil (a Cousin,I actually wasn't aware he MOVED to Brazil until last month), Italy (No relatives but a close friend)
For you, Germany. Specifically Berlin, home of the weirdos and artsy types. They'll tolerate you :P
Italy and Brazil have poor infrastructure

Japan and S Korea are much more conservative than Anime/Kpop suggests IRL

Germany is a good mix of good infrastructure, clean air, disciplined society and individual freedom, and in Berlin you'd have less fussy "Haus-Ordnung" to deal with due to so many artists living there who are messy and stuff :lol:

I'd still recommend visiting any and all of those nations (in Brazil though I'd go with a tour and be extra-careful) because they're all cool and interesting in their own right. But living there as an expat is a totally different beast. ;)
Edited by MeowMeow, Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:46 am.
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Ryō Genken
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Well I have Family in Australia too but EVERYTHING even the plants in Australia can kill you. 3 of the Most Deadly Spiders in the World,Poison Dart Frogs,Box Jellyfish,a tree that Spews caustic sap. Yeah no I'd rather put up with Trump XD
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Ryō Genken
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:48 am
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http://hungarianfreepress.com/2016/07/26/zsolt-bayer-throw-all-muslims-into-the-garbage/ :cool:

That's my response to that :whistle:
Nuriko
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:48 am
Well I have Family in Australia too but EVERYTHING even the plants in Australia can kill you. 3 of the Most Deadly Spiders in the World,Poison Dart Frogs,Box Jellyfish,a tree that Spews caustic sap. Yeah no I'd rather put up with Trump XD
Do they live in rural Australia? Then yeah thats a problem :lol: I'm pretty sure cities like Sydney should be fine :lol:
Ryō Genken
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:48 am
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You'd love Hungary. "Magyaroszag!" :cool:
Edited by MeowMeow, Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:51 am.
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*has Muslim friends,a Muslim family goes to my church. Is getting uncomfortable with the topic*
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MeowMeow
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Nuriko
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:51 am
*has Muslim friends,a Muslim family goes to my church. Is getting uncomfortable with the topic*
*Blame Ryo, not me

*In America, Muslims are a tiny minority and mostly harmless. In Indonesia, they're the equivalent of Trump voters :lol:

*Thus, Ryo vents on here because he has nowhere else to vent...
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Nuriko
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Yeah I know brother x.x I stated the first time I was uncomfortable too
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Nuriko
Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:56 am
Yeah I know brother x.x I stated the first time I was uncomfortable too
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Its just a bad situation in many countries about this, either way :kurokan:

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:54 am
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Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:51 am
*has Muslim friends,a Muslim family goes to my church. Is getting uncomfortable with the topic*
*Blame Ryo, not me

*In America, Muslims are a tiny minority and mostly harmless. In Indonesia, they're the equivalent of Trump voters :lol:

*Thus, Ryo vents on here because he has nowhere else to vent...
It's time to stop defending a religion that tries to kill someone who left and can't talk truth about Islam.
Edited by Ryō Genken, Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:00 am.
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Okay Ryo that's Enough :angry:
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In general, countries in which religion is a political force tend to be oppressive in nature, its not limited to Islam :mellow:
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Mr.Honda
Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:04 am
In general, countries in which religion is a political force tend to be oppressive in nature, its not limited to Islam :mellow:
Its that Islam is going through epochal debates about mosque and society now that dragged the European church into the mud circa 1500-1700, just with deadlier weapons :kurokan:
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Ever heard of the Crusades? Christianity has its dark side too
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How about European expansion and colonization of the Americas?

Straight up genocide and ideological warfare. All in the name of religion.
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*is REALLY growing annoyed but trying to keep my cool*
Mr.Honda
Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:10 am
How about European expansion and colonization of the Americas?

Straight up genocide and ideological warfare. All in the name of religion.
Exactly Uncle Tonbo hence why I'm getting annoyed. It's not just Islam ALL religions have Zealots that's why they are called zealots
Edited by Nuriko, Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:13 am.
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Nuriko
Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:07 am
Ever heard of the Crusades? Christianity has its dark side too
Yes, I definitely say yes, Christianity clearly had a dark history as well.

The Crusades were, in a sense though:

1) To get the knights and unruly mercenaries to heel by sending them elsewhere

2) Medieval Europe was weaker than the Seljuk Turks, who were aggressively expanding and would eventually grow to become the Ottoman Empire after fits and starts. Ottoman armies would threaten Europe for centuries and would have done what the west later did, only the west managed to invent better weapons faster and eventually turned the tide...

I'm not defending the behavior of the Crusaders, who were often terrible people and did terrible things in the Siege of Jerusalem in 1099. Its that there was a political reasoning for it all, not just purely religious.

And same with the Muslim conflicts now, its more political than religious per se.
Mr.Honda
Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:10 am
How about European expansion and colonization of the Americas?

Straight up genocide and ideological warfare. All in the name of religion.
That was in the name of gold and nationalism, and only slightly the "ideology" of Christianity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_de_las_Casas

granted he wasn't perfect but not all of them were ********. Feel free to call the Conquistadors ******** though :lol:

The Aztecs weren't really innocent either. They were the "imperialists" locally, capturing foreigners to sacrifice to their sun god. Hence tribes like the Tlaxcala allied with the Spanish to get rid of their hated rivals. If only they knew though...

The Spanish conquest of Latin America was 90% to do with gold and greed, and only like 5-10 % to do with "spreading Catholicism". That said, it wasn't innocent, and the church should acknowledge its role in such atrocities and face it squarely.
Edited by MeowMeow, Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:18 am.
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Point is brother it ain't just Islam and he's pushing my buttons with it
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"Ideological" warfare is always bad huh?

the American Revolution was fought under the banner of "ideological warfare"

The US, in WW2, fought the Nazis and Imperial Japanese with a strong ideology of their own, that of freedom and democracy :whistle: Of course not every soldier believed this, but it was a motivating factor for many of them, and even more so after they started liberating the death camps. Boy, how American troops HATED the Waffen-SS then! This was also "ideological" warfare, in a sense
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I'm studying that right now, so yes you're right it was about gold, but they had a kill or convert mentality that involved converting the natives to their religion in order to produce a cooperative slave labor force to work the mines. They tried to erase any and all traces of existing customs, replacing or integrating remnants within Christianity.
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Nuriko
Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:20 am
Point is brother it ain't just Islam and he's pushing my buttons with it
Its not just Islam, I know :hug:

Heck, even Buddhists, seen as peace lovers in the west, are immune. In the East, where they were "the Establishment", they went to war too.

Japanese Warrior monks, for one, caused so much trouble Nobunaga had to "kill them all" to bring it to heel.

The Burmese persecution of the Rohingya Muslims under Buddhist auspices...

No religion is innocent. Yet, most people try to follow their religion/culture to be decent, so no need to be ******** to anyone of any religion or non-belief. ^_^
Mr.Honda
Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:22 am
I'm studying that right now, so yes you're right it was about gold, but they had a kill or convert mentality that involved converting the natives to their religion in order to produce a cooperative slave labor force to work the mines. They tried to erase any and all traces of existing customs, replacing or integrating remnants within Christianity.
That was more prevalent AFTER the initial conquest, like over a period of several hundred years. The initial conquistadors didn't give a crap who believed what, they just wanted gold, lots of it, that was literally their ONLY objective. (later they found chocolate, tobacco and... wait for it... POTATOES :lol: )

That stuff you refer to came more in the 19th century residential schools in Canada and the US. Those were absolutely horrific. I won't defend them at all :no:
Edited by MeowMeow, Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:26 am.
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Look on the bright side this is proof I'm serious about changing to Nuriko being a new Start: I'm not ripping his head off even thou I REALLY REALLY want to
I AM still a bit gun shy about posting Fanart on here thou XD
Edited by Nuriko, Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:30 am.
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Eh, the information we're considering traces the roots for that much earlier than that, 1500s or so, but in any case, the point is there's no reason to single out Islam as all religions have their hands guilty of politically-motivated oppression.
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Uncle Tonbo can I pm you a Question?
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Good. I thought I'm gonna miss out on Daily Login for Record Keeper AND Mobius. Got internet back just in time for my brother's birthday. Gonna play Alpha Sapphire and get Supreme Wish Poké Puff. :bao:
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Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:30 am
Eh, the information we're considering traces the roots for that much earlier than that, 1500s or so, but in any case, the point is there's no reason to single out Islam as all religions have their hands guilty of politically-motivated oppression.
You could throw in the Turkish-Persian wars (fought ostensibly because Turkey was Sunni and Persia was Shia, but pretty much fought for territory and political positioning)

you could mention the Albigensian Crusades where Catholics from Northern France brutally wiped out the Cathars in the 12-1300s

And remember Taira Kiyomori? The historical Taira got his start as a young samurai who was pissed off at Buddhist warrior monk's constant interference in Kyoto, so he shot an arrow right at the Buddhist statue they were carrying to "intimidate" the townspeople of Kyoto. This dissolved into a mass brawl, but Kiyomori and his men won. So, Buddhism wasn't without its crazies either :lol:
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