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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,963,600 Views)
Mr. Kamikaze
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it was kinda a bummer that during the huge battle at the beginning of Civil War II, Dr. Strange's magic team didn't include Nico.

Or Doom, which is...less shocking. But still would've been cool.

Or Jennifer Kale. I'm convinced Marvel doesnt remember she exists.
they had Hellstrom (I like him), but no Nico.

******* Shaman!! But no Nico (or Doom).
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she would've looked cool with the rest of them.
Edited by Mr. Kamikaze, Thu Mar 2, 2017 4:00 am.
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UpInMahBubble
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magik!!!! :kasugasm:

I mean they included Jennifer Kale in Lego Marvel aa DLC for the doctor strange pack so I dunno
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Mr. Kamikaze
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she is the Ghost Riders' cousin, they could always incorporate her into any stories they try to do with them, but never do. And now there's a new unrelated Ghost Rider.
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French Overlord
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best crossover art

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Edited by French Overlord, Thu Mar 2, 2017 4:38 am.
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UpInMahBubble
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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Mr. Kamikaze
Thu Mar 2, 2017 4:13 am
she is the Ghost Riders' cousin, they could always incorporate her into any stories they try to do with them, but never do. And now there's a new unrelated Ghost Rider.
sounds like they just wanna torment you
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Mr. Kamikaze
Thu Mar 2, 2017 3:28 am
on behalf of mew, I would like to say "go die, ****"


o-oh...oh my....I am never channeling Mew's rage again....that was intense. I'm sorry.
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Katatonia
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destroy.erase.improve

Delete! Delete! Delete! :lol:
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ChibiGingi
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SJW: We want more gay characters in media.
Disney: Here you go, Lafou in the upcoming Beauty and the Beast remake is gay.
SJW: Pffff, we already knew that, we meant NEW or IMPORTANT characters.
Lafou: T~T
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Mockingbird is a fun series

everyone read it.
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ChibiGingi
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No.
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Daikyō
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I'm ready to serve you all

Got my internet back, hooraay! :eeek:
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ChibiGingi
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Welcome back to 2017, Daikyo!
Edited by ChibiGingi, Thu Mar 2, 2017 8:05 am.
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Daikyō
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I'm ready to serve you all

Hahaha thanks Chibi! What a time to be alive :smugracia:
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ChibiGingi
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A wonderful time indeed!

*blatantly ignoring crisis going on outside her office*

A wonderful time!

Edit: I love my jo-

*sees a pretty bad leak on monitor, coming from the 6th floor thanks to idiots clogging up the drain*

Sonofabi----, I HATE my job.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Thu Mar 2, 2017 8:44 am.
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MeowMeow
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ChibiGingi
Thu Mar 2, 2017 7:16 am
SJW: We want more gay characters in media.
Disney: Here you go, Lafou in the upcoming Beauty and the Beast remake is gay.
SJW: Pffff, we already knew that, we meant NEW or IMPORTANT characters.
Lafou: T~T
He liked the Bimbettes though! :XD

Stupid SJWs :sakichi:

Just make your own damn movies and stop remaking everything in your image! :sakichi:
For gays in movies, this is why I prefer Moonlight, at least that's an original picture. Don't just take something else and change it to the SJW FFS :facepalm:
Edited by MeowMeow, Thu Mar 2, 2017 9:44 am.
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Ryō Genken
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Daikyō
Thu Mar 2, 2017 8:09 am
Hahaha thanks Chibi! What a time to be alive :smugracia:
Yay! Time to eat Taichan!
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ChibiGingi
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MeowMeow
Thu Mar 2, 2017 9:42 am
ChibiGingi
Thu Mar 2, 2017 7:16 am
SJW: We want more gay characters in media.
Disney: Here you go, Lafou in the upcoming Beauty and the Beast remake is gay.
SJW: Pffff, we already knew that, we meant NEW or IMPORTANT characters.
Lafou: T~T
He liked the Bimbettes though! :XD

Stupid SJWs :sakichi:

Just make your own damn movies and stop remaking everything in your image! :sakichi:
For gays in movies, this is why I prefer Moonlight, at least that's an original picture. Don't just take something else and change it to the SJW FFS :facepalm:
I'm just not sure why the default sexual orientation HAS to be heterosexual until told gay.

Honestly, every character should be Asexual until told otherwise... save us a lot of trouble if we assume characters aren't already wanting to smack titties or dickies the moment they're introduced on screen.

Also, there's also the other end of the spectrum where those wanting more not-straight, not-White representation are told 'don't like it, then make your own.'

So they do. Only for those naysayers to go back and go 'what is this gay ****? How dare it not cater to MY HETERONORMAL, WHITE PROTAGONIST tastes? Away with ye!'

Clearly, those kind of douchebags don't want it made and don't want people taking them up on their challenge. They tend to get mad. :rolleyes:
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MeowMeow
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I'm perfectly fine with films with LGBT themes as long as they are original.

I do get annoyed if characters in an established franchise are changed for no reason than to cater to SJWs (Ghostbusters remake :XD )

P.S. I don't condone the hate Leslie Jones got over that movie, its not her fault. They should have just made a completely different female-based action comedy instead of reusing the Ghostbusters name IMO.

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ChibiGingi
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I dunno, if it's a franchise that acknowledges it has multiple universes, I can forgive one version of a character being gay... doesn't mean they're ALL gay, just that one universe version of said character. Don't like it? Wait a few years, they'll start another continuity and they might not be gay anymore.

I haven't seen the new Ghostbusters, and honestly, I likely never will just because... I never cared enough for Ghostbusters to begin with? But it was my understanding that they were just completely different characters and not meant to be genderbent versions of the same characters in the original? I could be wrong, though...

Anyways, so long as you're one of those people that say "go make your own" and then actually MEAN it, you're good. It's the others who just use the whole "don't like it, go make your own" as a means of saying "Your complaints annoy me, go piss off and die" instead. Just be honest from the get go and everyone's lives will be all the easier.

It's like apologizing to someone, JUST to shut them up and not because you legit mean it.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Thu Mar 2, 2017 10:29 am.
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MeowMeow
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I dunno, if it's a franchise that acknowledges it has multiple universes, I can forgive one version of a character being gay... doesn't mean they're ALL gay, just that one universe version of said character. Don't like it? Wait a few years, they'll start another continuity and they might not be gay anymore.


I don't think Ghostbusters did that, did they? :P I was slightly annoyed by the remake premise but I'm not alt right so I just didn't care about it. Did they explicitly say it has "multiple universes?" Or just set it in the same outbreak in a different city?

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Anyways, so long as you're one of those people that say "go make your own" and then actually MEAN it, you're good.


That's me. That's why I'm ok with Brokeback Mountain and Moonlight, and I'm sure I'll be good with a lesbian themed film :sakichi: :kasugasm:

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It's like apologizing to someone, JUST to shut them up and not because you legit mean it.


I've done this all the time to people I don't really care about :XD


Its called "tatemae" in Japanese :whistle:
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ChibiGingi
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@MeowMeow

I dunno, as I said, I'll never watch the new Ghostbusters because Ghostbusters as a whole just never stuck with me, outside the theme song. The theme song is perfect in everyway, but I don't care much for the movie.

The whole "multiple universe" thing was actually towards comic books and the such, though with the way that I worded it might've made it sound like I was talking about GB, so my apologies.

And didn't know Japan had a word for that. I myself am guilty of this, especially when I just want to get someone off my back, especially when said person is one of those 'no matter how much you try it's never good enough for them so why ******* bother?' kind of people.

Or when I'm working retail. I'm not sorry that I won't let you leave the store without paying the proper price on an item. I'm not sorry I don't care about you and just want you to move along so I can handle the rest of the people in line. :wacko:
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I just hate people demanding a creator change their creation to please some subset of a group they were never trying to please in the first place, and then they cave in to avoid bad PR

Also don't like how much obvious tokenism is taking place in Western media as a response to it. No it's not cool to try and roll as many minority groups you can squeeze into one character just to tick off your checklist, and then write them with every tired boring stereotype you remember from 80s teen movies

It rarely even turns out well when they hire minority creators, because they seem to throw quality control out the window and hire the first gay/non-white person who claims they can write
Edited by Wild Lion, Thu Mar 2, 2017 11:50 am.
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ChibiGingi
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Thu Mar 2, 2017 11:47 am
I just hate people demanding a creator change their creation to please some subset of a group they were never trying to please in the first place, and then they cave in to avoid bad PR

Also don't like how much obvious tokenism is taking place in Western media as a response to it. No it's not cool to try and roll as many minority groups you can squeeze into one character just to tick off your checklist, and then write them with every tired boring stereotype you remember from 80s teen movies
An understandable complaint. A creator shouldn't have to make such alterations just to appease those that they honestly have no intention of catering to, especially since if they do end up caving in, said group will only nitpick how poorly done it was or will then whine that they're only pandering.

On the one hand, yes, diversity is great to have. There should be more representation in entertainment besides the usual White Male Protagonist, but at the same time, you can sort of tell when a character is made gay/POC/whatever just for the sake of catering to that group, verses them legit being gay/POC/whatever from the very get go.

Then there's the whole issue of targeted audience. There's nothing inherently wrong with catering to a specific audience, and there's nothing wrong with those NOT being catered to to say "this is clearly not targeted towards me, therefor I'm no obligated to watch/participate/comment on it". The audience not being catered to feels like they SHOULD be catered to, even if they're clearly not, instead of just, you know... saying "well, this isn't for me, better look elsewhere or make it myself" and being done with it.

There's nothing wrong with NOT watching a movie because it doesn't cater to you, and you shouldn't really be pressured into watching it or being told there's something wrong with you because you're not part of their targeted audience.

Not sure if ANY OF THAT makes sense because it's nearly 5 in the morning and my concerta's running out, but yeah... it's not the end of the world if you don't watch/like/participate in something that isn't clearly targeted to you.

Edit: Amazingly enough, despite the distractions and the leak, managed to get 1.5k words down tonight. Go me! I'm not entirely useless after all!
Edited by ChibiGingi, Thu Mar 2, 2017 12:10 pm.
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Agreed completely. I'm not mad that romance movies don't have more guns and robots because I am not their intended audience. I'm sure they would like me to join that audience, but I'm also sure romance writers are not wondering how they can attract me to their market share.

Yeah it's pretty easy to tell what is an honest effort to show a different perspective and add something new to a story through a unique character, and what is there to get a pat on the back from certain internet groups

In the case of comic books, no matter how much they bastardize established characters into some new token, sales are still dive-bombing. It's not even making business sense, at least Marvel's movies haven't suffered yet because papa Disney isn't going to put up with franchises hanging themselves financially for the sake of self-righteousness
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I think there's more to the crumbling comic book industry than simply "catering to SJW" though... not sure what, because I only buy trades of Transformers: MTMTE and I'm told I'm helping in its death because I won't buy the flimsy paper comics, but yeah, it's weird that IDW's doing pretty well with their Transformers series, and the writers ARE including catering to those who are begging for more diversity (more female characters that aren't given bull **** backstories like Simon Furman's Arcee, actual couples that are hetero, homosexual, **** even epic bromances where they're not gay for each other but they have their own phrase and ritual for it, like a sworn brother vow, bringing in characters that Hasbro flat out ignores or doesn't WANT to have to include because they're not Optimus Prime or Bumblebee).

Not sure what's going on with DC and Marvel, but as far as Transformers goes, the comics are where it's thriving. Then again, they have the Bayformers and one shitty ass cartoon (and then Rescue Bots, which is perfect in every way) as an alternative, so... I guess those wanting Transformers but not Bayformers/RiD/awesome kiddy show TF at least have the comics to do their beloved franchise justice.

Not saying it's without flaws, but man, I get a kick out of seeing fanwanks cry because there's more females being introduced. But that's just me. I'm a monster in that aspect.
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