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| Rance | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:37 pm Post #523151 |
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Yuki Oh. No.
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How about hating him because he was brutal to his slaves, who were supposed to be freed prior to him inheriting them? http://fair-use.org/national-anti-slavery-standard/1866/04/14/robert-e-lee-his-brutality-to-his-slaves He was a good general though. There is no doubt about that. As far as being the best general in American history, that's a stretch, especially since the Confederates lost that war. The Union generals weren't anything great either. A lot of them either suffered heavy casualties in arguably Pyrrhic victories or just outright sucked. I'd rank Lee higher than any of them. The Union won because they had more resources to start with. When looking at the whole of American history though, the U.S. produced much better generals during the World Wars and later conflicts. Hell, despite losing in Vietnam the tactics employed there were effective. It was the strategy and war itself that sucked. Ditto with other modern American wars. |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:40 pm Post #523152 |
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I dont know why Robert E Lee reminds me of milk... |
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| Wild Lion | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:42 pm Post #523153 |
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They already tried to politicize milk a few months ago, you're late |
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| Rance | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:47 pm Post #523154 |
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I'm one of those people who think that the statues of him should be kept. Because honestly, there are statues of all kinds of brutal figures around the world, including the biggest monster in history Genghis Khan. But I think people should know that he was not a good guy at all. You can have monuments of history, including of controversial figures, so long as you contextualize them. Lee honestly believed that slavery was the best thing for the black race, that blacks must be subjected to extraordinarily harsh discipline and that they were not on the same level as white people. He is not the hero that some people make him out to be. |
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| Angelic Linca | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:50 pm Post #523155 |
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Blue Sunshine of Wei
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Pamela and Hagel in Atelier Lydie and Suelle
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| Fräulein | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:52 pm Post #523156 |
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I want a chocolate fountain in the shape of Dong Zhuo, with the chocolate running down his soft, round tummy |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:52 pm Post #523157 |
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i miss out on the fun stuff |
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| Rance | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:54 pm Post #523158 |
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Yuki Oh. No.
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Milk causes autism to be honest. |
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| DMRevolution | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:55 pm Post #523159 |
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I posted a link about it but you ignored it. |
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| Angelic Linca | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:56 pm Post #523160 |
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Blue Sunshine of Wei
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| Fräulein | Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:56 pm Post #523161 |
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i thought that was vaccines |
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| UpInMahBubble | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:01 pm Post #523162 |
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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What gets me from an outsider's perspective Didn't he lose the war? Why do so many people want to honor a loser anyway
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| Lu Xun001 | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:01 pm Post #523163 |
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He's a Pirate
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does coffee with milk cause aspergers then |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:02 pm Post #523164 |
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probably untrue he lost the war but he fought for an ideal a lot of people at the time believed in and continue to believe in...however shitty it was. his statues are in the south, to my knowledge he doesnt have any kind of recognition anywhere else in the country on the level of a statue or memorial. |
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| Eni | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:04 pm Post #523165 |
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BOOEH
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I will petition my city to get a statue of Attila |
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| UpInMahBubble | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:09 pm Post #523166 |
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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Yea that's what I mean. Like how Germany doesn't have big statues of Hitler but they at least mention in war museums and such why his ideals were wrong. ![]() We have a statue of this guy and also one of a dragon in my town |
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| DMRevolution | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:15 pm Post #523167 |
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Reading that Naganadel should be banned and junk on smogon. Swan finally has her good poison mon |
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| Fräulein | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:23 pm Post #523168 |
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that looks like daddy |
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| ChibiGingi | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:25 pm Post #523169 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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Shu. |
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| Wild Lion | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:41 pm Post #523170 |
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this
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| Eni | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:44 pm Post #523171 |
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BOOEH
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People really dig green. Obviously. |
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| Fräulein | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:45 pm Post #523172 |
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I mean, it is the best color |
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| Rance | Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:49 pm Post #523173 |
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From a perspective of logic, I agree with you completely. It seems foolish. People do a lot of foolish things though. They often honor historical losers. There are statues of Sanada Yukimura and Saigo Takamori in Japan as well. In the case of the U.S., though, it's because this country has always had a strong degree of regionalism. The divisions that were in place in the Civil War are basically still in place. The Southeast is politically and culturally very different from the rest of the country even today. |
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| UpInMahBubble | Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:01 pm Post #523174 |
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| Angelic Linca | Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:05 pm Post #523175 |
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Finally found link to adorable song I’ve been listening to |
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