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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,961,527 Views)
DMRevolution
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I want Lady Morgan but I'm barely getting blues.
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What's this whole cultural appropriation business with Bruno Mars?
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He steals martian culture.
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:43 pm
What's this whole cultural appropriation business with Bruno Mars?
Right so.

To get into this, we need to discuss the term: Cultural appropriation.
It's not a dirty term, or a negative term. It's truly and utterly neutral. People all over the world have culturally appropriated from the beginning of time. The Japanese took from the Chinese and Koreans, the Chinese from India, ancient Rome from ancient Greece, and so on. Hell, the US is practically built on cultural appropriation- take away everything that's not uniquely American, you're left with... basically nothing except maybe hamburgers and Mothman, lol.

But, cultural appropriation can definitely be a bad thing, and is probably seen mostly when used in negative contexts because it's rare to see it discussed positively outside of academic circles. Such an example of bad cultural appropriation would be, say, Americans using Hinduism's holy symbols without truly understanding their meaning to make themselves appear ~mystical~ or ~special~. The reason such a thing is bad is because it devalues the importance placed on the symbols in their home culture simply to say "look how cool I am". This is commonly done whilst still disrespecting other aspects of the culture seen as just as important- I guarantee you those 'trendy' teens at Coachella putting bindi on their head unapologetically eat beef and think the idea of Hinduism treating cattle as holy is ~wild and crazy~. Similarly, a non-black American using black culture for "cool points" while ignoring the continued plight black Americans face and where many of those elements spring from is negative cultural appropriation.

Now, in this case, supposing we consider Bruno Mars to not be black (he has a wildly varied background that may include African or West Indies diaspora), it's being charged by detractors that he's negatively appropriating from Black American culture because he's a guy who isn't black performing in styles created by Black Americans, thus taking away from non-Black exposure to Black artists.

However this doesn't hold up. There are people such as, say, Miley Cyrus or a number of Kpop stars who use black bodies or culture so as to be seen as cool- but either toss aside Black culture when it's convenient or completely disrespect some other aspects of it. It's clear that Bruno is not looking to speak over Black voices, and that he very much respects his inspirations. He also, iirc, actively promotes a number of black artists. While there may be some who, indeed, substitute Bruno's music in for black music, that is not Bruno's fault, but a fault of our society at large. A number of black artists have even come out in defense of him. So... Yeah.





tl;dr He MIGHT be culturally appropriating but if he is it isn't in any sort of negative fashion that he can be faulted for, and is in fact respectfully helping to bring genres like R&B back to the forefront of popular music out of love for the art form.
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Bruno Mars has long been accepted by the black community, particularly in his music, despite not being black himself. He's more asian and hispanic.

same with Eminem. He's very obviously not black.

it's just the new thing to complain about cause the other issues are starting to run a litle dry.
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I didn't even know Bruno Mars wasn't black until people started defending Mamamoo doing blackface to impersonate him as "but he's fillipino so it's not blackface???"
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i think his father is puerto ricn and his mother is filipino
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Then again, I didn't know Cardi B wasn't black either. I just don't keep up with western celebs lol
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Oh damn..I mean, he's not harming anyone though, did anyone come after Cardi B for that video? Wasn't she using Arabic imagery, IIRC?
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Dammit I just noticed that my work trousers have a rip in them

Curse my thighs being to thick for these constraints!!
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I want to use the D-pad to move in Ultra Sun and auto run so I don't have to hold DS with both hands to breed.
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you dont have to use your hands to breed if you don't want to
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:lewd:
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I really want jaffa cakes
And a 9Muses comeback
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But using your hands is fun
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u rite. u rite.
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So you're gonna have to wait a while before shiny mudsdale
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I probably need to get further into Ultra Sun to trade anyway...I havent played it since getting my starter.
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You just need your pokedex
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I don't even have the ultra ones rip
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For gen 8's global mission. Gamefreak needs to put the GTS one at the start instead of towards the end where everybody wants level 100 crap for route 2 stuff.
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Wonho should use this hair colour again
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Can't wait to take all my shinies online and get called a hacker.
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I mean... Zhang Fei's first response when Xiahouji shows up to help him is to tell her to get lost so :tama:
Just stop talking about or joking its not funny!
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