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| Deleted User | Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:53 am Post #55476 |
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i know, and the game doesnt even give you a chance to like them, it was so dumb, just big dramatic death after big dramatic death and i was just uNABLE TO CARE |
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| The Outsider | Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:56 am Post #55477 |
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The Demon's Rival
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Historical Liu Bei keeps my interest in him though, him and Cao Cao really are an interesting pair and loved the build up DW8 had between them. Sun Quan is just dull in the game... and a complete twat in history so 'lose lose' for him. I also have no issue with characters dying when supposed too, but Wu's was too much it just became un-emotive. Gonna stop talking about Wu now it's making me angry .
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:57 am Post #55478 |
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most of them lived long enough to care. Sun Jian and Sun Ce die too soon. Lu Meng is just not likable at all anyway...and Zhou Yu is kinda a dick Lu Su though. That man is the best. |
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| Angelic Linca | Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:58 am Post #55479 |
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Shu is lame simply because Liu Bei was super lame at utilizing his strategists. He had both the Sleeping Dragon Zhuge Liang and the Fledgling Phoenix Pang Tong, and yet he still wound up losing everything at Yi Ling cause he let Pang Tong die in Yi and not listen to his advisors because Guan Yu and Zhang Fei were killed. |
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| Erminaz | Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:58 am Post #55480 |
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Koei neglect Wu, we all know it. For Jin too. Nothing against them but they don't really interest me either |
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| ~Spirited Bellflower~ | Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:58 am Post #55481 |
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But Chenny, I thought you liked Wu. ![]() Zhou Yu, a dick? Well, to Xiao Qiao, maybe... |
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| Angelic Linca | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:00 am Post #55482 |
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Sun Quan's DW7 and DW8 VA is so annoying. His pre-DW7 voice was way better. Plus his "Let us all enjoy this" line while holding Lianshi was so creepy. |
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| Erminaz | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:02 am Post #55483 |
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More than anything though it's that scratty dao. WHY did they leave that on him in 8? Out of everyone who used it in 7 he most desperately needed to ditch it given how boring he is already. It's like they WANT Quan to be boring
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| Deleted User | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:02 am Post #55484 |
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"Come, there is some lianhsi for everyone" |
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| ~Spirited Bellflower~ | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:05 am Post #55485 |
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That's why it's all going to be fixed once they declone him with that hot (no pun intended, seriously!) blaze sword! ![]() LOL and yes and I had to burst out laughing/facepalm at that Lianshi line of his. Just poor scriptwriting on Koei's part (or maybe not... maybe it was too awful and obvious to not have been planned )
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| The Outsider | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:08 am Post #55486 |
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Wu used to be my favorite Kingdom, it's true, it's not exactly a secret. Lu Meng was my all-time favorite character for ages and he's saved Wu's story for me at the current point. He actually makes me support them from time to time. But I don't know if it's just Koei, but their overall story sucks because it just jumps about too much with no real build up. I said from day one every faction can have something to itself other than Wu - 1. Wei can, because they seem the most liked faction in the East and West. 2. Shu can, because they're protagonists kind-of and everything favors them in perspective. 3. Jin could, because they're new and in a category of their own being the winners. 4. Others couldn't, yes Lu Bu gets more focus but if a focus on any of them were to be released now, something connecting to 'TTK' is profitable as well for fans of the big 3 who're the main fanbase after all. 5. Wu couldn't, because they're too isolated. A Wu game would push out the fans of the other 4 factions too much to make a remotely decent gaming campaign. Edited by The Outsider, Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:12 am.
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| Erminaz | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:12 am Post #55487 |
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omg I do make myself laugh sometimes, don't care how weird that sounds
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| The Outsider | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:15 am Post #55488 |
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Koei clearly wanted Lianshi out of the way in DW8 . They had so many camp conversations about her rejecting Sun Quan and her not being able to make it to the battle, this was just a clever way of keeping her in the tale for fans but not having to use her in actual battles.
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| Erminaz | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:17 am Post #55489 |
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People were p!$$3d because she replaced Zhou Tai in 7, so they must have felt they had to reduce her role. |
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| ~Spirited Bellflower~ | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:17 am Post #55490 |
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@MCG Ah well, to be honest I actually agree with most of your reasons, I've even felt that way myself from time to time. But I think most of the blame lies with Koei. It's so obvious how Wu-ist they are- although it was Wu that Late-Wei/Jin fought against the most, we haven't even gotten to see anything from Late Wu's perspective; don't even have any Late Wu officers yet (excluding Ding Feng- won't mention Lianshi since she technically shouldn't even be there). It just has so much potential that Koei insists on wasting. Not to mention shunting some characters that had a LOT of relevance towards Wu's internal strife (that could make for great drama and storytelling) from being added The only difference between us for the most part is that despite all this, Wu still remains my favorite kingdom
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| Fräulein | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:19 am Post #55491 |
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That was sad. He was such a nice character, why'd he have to die?
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| The Outsider | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:22 am Post #55492 |
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I agree, it's not entirely Wu's fault, Koei could tell their story a lot better but they don't because of the restriction on stage numbers per faction in 'Story Mode'. However, I think forever Wu should be (and cannot actually not be) used as the faction that aids the story of 'TTK' and not actually as important as Wei and Shu. It's basically the story of Liu Bei and Cao Cao now who seem to have their lives influenced by the Wu. Plus, I dislike how Wu are the most traitorous faction in the game. Cao Cao protects the Emperor, Liu Bei connects to the Emperor, Wu just raised their own lands in independence with no signals of keeping the core of the country intact. In my opinion, they are a major problem in the entire role of things and only prolonged a useless war. EDIT: Hmm, I guess Gan Ji would be one of my favorite characters after all then .
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| Erminaz | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:25 am Post #55493 |
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I've hit that tired high ![]() I'm going to bed (just in the unlikely case anyone actually notices I've gone). Night all
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| Mischievy | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:26 am Post #55494 |
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Ugh I hate the feeling like I'm defending Xingcai all the time. I feel like an obsessiveness fan even though I'm not. Yea, I love her to bits, but it's just when people bring up things that isn't true about her. That's when I start to defend her character. I analyze every character very carefully to make my finally judgement on them. Reason why I dislike no one in the game. I mean some characters can be annoying to me but it doesn't mean I hate them. I actually gave everyone a chance. Hell, I actually like Dong Zhuo, Zhang Jiao and all the unnoticeable characters that isn't popular. |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:26 am Post #55495 |
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People are dumb. Zhou Tai was usually in the cutscenes with her, he just happened to be silent and standing off to the side. You know...as he normally does, even before Lianshi. I guess people were mad because Sun Quan was crushing hard on Lianshi and not Zhou Tai. |
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| The Outsider | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:27 am Post #55496 |
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Night !Yeah Mischievy, I agree. I might slag a few characters off from time to time but the only real time I sigh is when it comes to the Wu, I don't hate any character I just over-analyse them and make a judgement. Edited by The Outsider, Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:28 am.
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:30 am Post #55497 |
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I can fight for any character, and I can rag on all of them as well. No one will truly know where I stand on any characters, cause I can hate them just as easily as I can love them. Well...except a few obvious exceptions, but if I wanted to I could easily come up with reasons why they are terrible characters. Cause I'm that good.
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| The Outsider | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:35 am Post #55498 |
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I could make good and bad points about 90% of them if I wanted to too. Apart from my fabulous characters, the handful of ones I won't budge from regardless or like to put down .The only character though in all honestly not to let me down so far is Wang Yi . She's faultless imo only of course. Maybe even with Chen Gong I might have a few negative things to say depending on the direction Koei take, but still he will never not be my favorite character of all time .
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| Fräulein | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:35 am Post #55499 |
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I hate every character who isn't Dong Zhuo. |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:37 am Post #55500 |
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Wang Yi is such a one dimensional character though. She accomplishes nothing other than showing up wherever Ma Chao is, spewing nonsense about vengeance and how she might want to have sex with him while eating his heart or whatever, and the whole time Ma Chao is ignoring her and dealing with more important things (like screaming Justice at Cao Cao, and how he might want to have sex with him while eating his heart....etc). She is a little girl, screaming obscenities at people trying to get someone to notice her. She...she's basically Miley Cyrus...
Edited by Mr. Kamikaze, Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:38 am.
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