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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,980,297 Views)
Erminaz
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How high and far Lara Croft could jump in the old TRs is so amusing :lol:
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Eni
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Shame basara 4 newbies are boring.
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dancingswan
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Ii Naotora and Goto Matabei disagree. The rest sure.
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UpInMahBubble
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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Scottie Baby
Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:43 pm
ummm excuse me all a story needs in zhang liao and its already perfect

Diao Chan would just ruin it with all her estrogen
Zhang Liao doesn't need all that time in two separate stories though :nope:
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Erminaz
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to be fair, he didn't get loads in Wei as it was

Although I do agree, as much as I like him, he doesn't need to be in every Lu Bu battle
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LittleDragonZ
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Zhang Liao is amazing and in my top 5. I want more of him. Although agreed with there should have been more spotlight where there was potential time for Diaochan.
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The Outsider
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Why we need Gao Shun pal!

However, compared to DW7 Zhang Liao wasn't in the 8 originally anyhow.
He's still the third most playable guy in the game.
Edited by The Outsider, Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:07 pm.
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Katatonia
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If Diao wasn't irritating, I'd be ok with playing as her. The whip moveset is ok at best, but her personality has taken a huge nosedive as of late. She's simply Lu Bu's fangirl without keeping a shred of her manipulative personality(if it's really still there, haven't seen it)

tr;dr, she's worse than SSX, and she's like nails on a chalkboard
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Erminaz
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I think SSX is worse with her Liu Bei fangirling personally

Although the Wu bit of her story keeps me liking her.

But I agree about the whip. Personally I prefer it to the rattles, but it is very weak.
Edited by Erminaz, Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:13 pm.
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The Outsider
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SSX is worse than Diaochan, easily. She just ups and leaves everything she ever known and even wears green. Diaochan retains her pink colors and would choose her Dad over Lu Bu anytime.
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Maybe I should stop staying up until 1 AM every night so I can actually get out of bed at a decent time.
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Katatonia
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And can she go one second without pathetically whining "Lord Fengxian?!" Seriously, STFU. :lol:

It's so funny how those two were the original DW girls, and how far they had fallen
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Erminaz
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Well SSX is still the poster girl, to in terms of exposure she is still up there. She, Wang Yuanji and whoever this year's new girl (currently Yinping) is are the only important females. The older ones are irrelevant :rolleyes:

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The Outsider
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Wang Yi dude.

She got a fair amount of time in 8 for a woman, and in XL she gets another stage (probably 'cause she's in the top 20 characters).
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Erminaz
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Well yeah I guess so, but in terms of fan overratedness it seems to be all about Yinping DW8 era, in Japan at least

I'm sure come 9 both will start fading as SSX gets even more involved in Shu and some other girl comes along for Japan to crap themselves over.
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Katatonia
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I mean in terms of personality, SSX is still very popular, yes, and Diao is too. But their personalities just make me :facepalm:

Not sure how popular Lingqui is, but she won in the Others category in an unofficial Facebook page poll.
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OMM: How utterly disappointing and predictable. If it wasn't for Chthonic, I'd save my cash.
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The Outsider
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Koei might have Lu Bu, Chen Gong, Diaochan and Lu Lingqi in their top characters for DW9 and if Xun Yu and Cheng Pu get in then Gao Shun might win the inevitable future poll to get him in the game. I relish at the thought :shifty: .
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Erminaz
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I want them to start giving the Others some more attention again, they're very important in the early TK period and I feel like without them there's no context to the TK story.

5 was the last good game for them, since then they've been shafted
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The Outsider
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It's a shame because 'Others' are more popular than Wu. Wu characters rank lower than any other faction and have the most characters at the bottom in terms of popularity. Koei can make an expansion based on any faction they wanted to other than Wu because they're not marketable enough. 'Others' should be fine from here-on, though I wouldn't mind them being highlighted in 'Xtreme Legends' games mainly.
Edited by The Outsider, Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:33 pm.
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GIVE ME YOUR XTC ("ecstasy" written in letters)

Seriously, I can't get over it the moment I listen to XTC by Psychic Lover :P
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Erminaz
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That really surprises me tbh

Going back to like ooold PS2 days, I would have guessed Wu would be in the top 2 popular kingdoms with their young, energetic characters.

But I can see why, they've had hardly any adds recently and they're presented as the backwater kingdom who basically do nothing under Sun Snore Quan while Wei and Shu deck it out.

They are now the peripheral kingdom
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Katatonia
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The early pre-TK era is so interesting though, I'd love to see it featured more. As far as the Nanman go, as much as I love Zhurong, I can't see any hope of them being relevant anymore.
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@Phoe

Oh boy. I don't think Astral approves with what you just said about Sun Quan (though I prefer his brother better than him)
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They could be, if they did the DW5 thing and included more about before they came into contact with Shu. They could also play on them joining Shu and have them actively taking part in Shu battles

It will be mostly hypothetical stuff for them of course, but that's ok, Hypothetical should be used for less important characters.

@Gen - haha I know :lol: Ce is 100 times more interesting than Quan and my position on that isn't budging, not while he has that dao at least. (Sorry Astral)
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Lol, I agree with the above posts. Zhurong is great but Nanman going to how they were before is near impossible.

Wu used to be great, the under-dogs even. But they lack any form of decent story dynamics due to lack of interactions, ever single faction in the game interacts deeply and interestingly with other factions bar Wu. Sun Quan also has no rival unlike Liu Bei and Cao Cao or Cao Cao and Yuan Shao even. Sun Quan is shown as an un-charismatic bloke sat on a throne learning to take responsibility while his officers defend another keep. Never-mind the fact he treated his officers like dirt historically. Wu is out of it, they'll never lead a title again... ever.

EDIT: Oh, and their hypothetical sucked balls.
Edited by The Outsider, Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:46 pm.
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