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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,979,712 Views)
Uesugi Kenshin
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Crusader13
Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:29 am
Speaking of SB, gawd. Why is it such a good game, yet the people who created Basara didn't pay attention in Japanese History class? Why? WHY GAWD WHY?! Ugh, seriously; when I was reading SB3's website, I was banging my head on the desk every time I read a character profile (literally). The people who develop the game and create the graphics for the game and stuff for SB should be switched to Koei's SW developing team and Koei's SW developing team should be switched to Capcom.
Ah, there's the cleverness of it. They don't try to take it seriously, yet they stay very truthful to the source legends, then blow them up to the full way it could possibly be interpreted.

Tadakatsu's never been injured? Make him so armored he resembles a gundam.

Shingen's famous for deflecting Kenshin's sword with his fan? Make his fan gigantic enough to whip up tornados and boulders.

Kenshin's rumored to be a girl? Make him androgynous and give him a female VA best known for playing little boys AND gruff women.

Really the only design I can't figure out, and still can't figure out to this day, is Motochika's. I have NO idea where they pulled him being a pirate from.

And in fairness, except like maybe Ranmaru and Kenshin, I think it's fair to say that Koei's renditions are just as wacky as their Basara versions. Heck, some of the Basara versions are more subdued- looking at Nouhime, mostly, but Muneshige and Kojuuro to a certain extent as well.

... unless we're counting movesets then, in which case none of it matters, because Nobunaga shoots balls of darkness from his hands in SW anyway. xD
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:34 am
I think I'm missing something Astus. What am I missing the point of?
That they're not hung up on the historical aspect.

It's all about OTT wacky interpretations based on history and OTT exciting action.
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:34 am
Crusader13
Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:30 am
Really? Can you fill me in please? I'm interested in knowing. Not saying it to start an argument; I really want to know.
Basara is about an extremely fantastical interpretation of the Sengoku era. They're not hung up on the historical aspect.
Ok. I get that...hmm, maybe the game isn't for me....
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And making your waifus not playable.
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The difference is that Koei tries to take ridiculous anime characters and stick them into a serious story

While Capcom takes ridiculous anime characters and makes up a ridiculous anime story

Except in SB3... the melodrama was cranked up to 11
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Astus
Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:37 am
Crusader13
Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:34 am
I think I'm missing something Astus. What am I missing the point of?
That they're not hung up on the historical aspect.

It's all about OTT wacky interpretations based on history and OTT exciting action.
Sorry, I didn't mean to post that. Didn't see your post before that one. Thanks though, I get it ^_^
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Eni
Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:38 am
And making your waifus not playable.
... please no. It still injures me to this day.

Kenshin... Kasuga... why? :sad:
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:38 am
The difference is that Koei tries to take ridiculous anime characters and stick them into a serious story

While Capcom takes ridiculous anime characters and makes up a ridiculous anime story

Except in SB3... the melodrama was cranked up to 11
I prefer Koei's idea better. I like how they try to fit in anime with actual history unlike Basara. Basara is good for laughs (I guess), but the game just sucks. That gameplay is sick though, but everything else is just ugh.
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:40 am
Eni
Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:38 am
And making your waifus not playable.
... please no. It still injures me to this day.

Kenshin... Kasuga... why? :sad:
Never forget.

#JUSTICEFORMATSU
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:41 am
Mewshuji
Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:40 am
Eni
Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:38 am
And making your waifus not playable.
... please no. It still injures me to this day.

Kenshin... Kasuga... why? :sad:
Never forget.

#JUSTICEFORMATSU
Matsu being a NPC is why I stopped playing Basara. Posted Image
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why didn't they add Lia huao whatever his name is i dont know three kingdoms stuff give me a break
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The SB3 character drama was better though.

Capcom - Sorry, they'll be a lot character cuts. We're focusing on Sekigahara.

*INTRODUCING SB3'S LATEST CHARACTER - TSURUHIME!*
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Kichou sama was always my lady :cry:
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Replaying DW8 and doing female to male bonds in Ambition Mode Yue Jin just apologized for being clingy.

You just said two lines dude dont be paranoid.
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:44 am
The SB3 character drama was better though.

Capcom - Sorry, they'll be a lot character cuts. We're focusing on Sekigahara.

*INTRODUCING SB3'S LATEST CHARACTER - TSURUHIME!*
and then the secret final character was Nobunaga with a shitter move set

i was so angry with that game
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Never forget best housefrau.
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At least Kenshin and Kasuga play fairly significant roles compared to the Maeda couple, Shingen, and Mitsuhide. Poor Matsu...

Liao Hua not being added yet is an odd choice. You'd think they'd want to give Zhang ???? someone to interact with.

Edit: Did not mean Zhang Liao. I forget what the Yellow Turban leader is called, kick me.
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:48 am.
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YOU'D THINK THEY WOULD ADD ONE OF BEST SHU ADDS.

Its like they literally want to go by the saying about Liao Hua and add him after every single other Shu general is made playable.
Edited by Eni, Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:48 am.
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:26 am
RE: Takakage

His musou is practically magic but if he’s intelligent, who knows he might be able to do magic. Maybe that’s what’s written in the book.

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I was confused with this dialogue..really REALLY confused. It's like asking back the questions.
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:47 am
YOU'D THINK THEY WOULD ADD ONE OF BEST SHU ADDS.
they instead had the great idea of adding guan suo and then they realized, hey, guan suo needs a waifu
and then by that point they HAD to complete the guan family i mean they were halfway there might as well just do it

makes sense
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:46 am
You'd think they'd want to give Zhang Liao someone to interact with.
Or they could use one of the other 19 Wei characters.
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OH MY GOD I BET THEY'RE EVEN GONNA ADD MA SU BEFORE LIAO HUA.

Someone hold me, I might cry.
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I love Guan Yinping and I would not give her up now for anything. Literally best Shu, surprised the Red-faced Fool helped birth her.

... but she was a stupid choice all things considered.
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:49 am
OH MY GOD I BET THEY'RE EVEN GONNA ADD MA SU BEFORE LIAO HUA.

Someone hold me, I might cry.
everyone has been saying the next two shu adds for 9 WILL be Ma Su and Zhou Cang

it really is inevitable

at that point you cannot blame anyone for hating shu i mean come on
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Why do Jager hate this poor kitty? Though i dont like the fact he is serious. GIMME playful Nobuyuki!!

Eh blame Guan Suo and Sanniang then guys? Why did DW team decided to put Suo first before Xing and Zhang Bao???????? And to a lesser extent adding Ping and Xingcai first before xing and Zhang Bao. And as a result we got this mumbo jumbo weird family completion thingy.

Or that i wish KOEI make DW9 - DW11 a Liao Hua trilogy,with Liao Hua as the main character.
Edited by Ryō Genken, Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:51 am.
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:40 am
Eni
Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:38 am
And making your waifus not playable.
... please no. It still injures me to this day.

Kenshin... Kasuga... why? :sad:
I know thoses feels.
Kasuga was my main.

..but Stephanie Sheh does her voice. Ugh.

I just cant ...it doesn't fit her.
Devil King had the best Kenshin and Kasuga voices same as Yukimura.
I'm just sick of hearding the same voice actoring that I always hear from anime or videogame.
Especially if it doesn't fit the main.

...Thank gawd. Eren isn't voice by Vic or Yuri for example.



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