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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,979,656 Views)
Mr. Kamikaze
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DW6 Diaochan sounded like an insane duck every time she attacked...it was so annoying
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Angelic Linca
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Renbu made playing 6 on Chaos fun. It was a blast trying to get that achievement.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Black Lion
Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:53 am
The point of renbu was pretty flawed from the beginning for the kind of game they were trying to make, so destroying that really wasn't a big loss

What WAS a big loss, was losing the new Meng Huo that 6 gave us

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Oh, yes. DW6's Meng Huo was a bad ass. He went from fat, to muscular, back to fat again. Wish they'd bring that pillar back for him and give the gloves to someone else.

Or they can give the pillar to a new character, but...i'd rather Meng Huo get it back, instead. But, ultimately, as long as it comes back.
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Black Lion
Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:53 am
The point of renbu was pretty flawed from the beginning for the kind of game they were trying to make, so destroying that really wasn't a big loss

What WAS a big loss, was losing the new Meng Huo that 6 gave us

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I want the gorilla man back
I know. Why they went back to fat Meng Huo, just why KOEI.

When he's fat he's basically Goemon with less clothes. I'm not crazy about the claws either.
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DMRevolution
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Kingdom mode from part 4,proper branching skills, 6's graphics, 3's quickyness. Would like all that in a Musou title.
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Fat Meng Huo is better than muscular Meng Huo.
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:48 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:38 am
Renbu was so lame...I wouldn't mind if everything from DW6 came back, from mechanics to graphics (in fact, i'd prefer it. DW6 was pretty), as long as they leave Renbu out (and of course, leave the DW8 movesets in tact)
I would be all for renbu coming back if they try to make it less repetitive and more fun.

At least you can say for 6 it did try to innovate on a lot of things. It actually felt like a PS3 game, more than I can say for 7 and 8 really.

And agreed Black Lion, Lu Xun's DW6 sword slayed so much. I want it back for him, the current sabers suck.
Yes. They actually tried to bring in new things for the games to give it that PS3 feel, but it didn't work out too well with the fans. Personally, I never understood the point of the renbu system, and renbu system was very hard to warm up to. As a result, I dropped the game.

But Lu Xun's sword was not slayin' at all--none of the characters had that slayin' feel to them. The only moveset that I'd say was "slayin' " was Zhou Yu's maybe, but the rest of them stinked. The only good thing about DW6 was its graphics, but the rest was just ugh.

While DW7 and 8 have not brought anything new to the table, they're still enjoyable games.

In summary, the bad totally outweighed the good in DW6.
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Of course all Koei heard was the fact that there were no new characters and characters were cut. To be honest, while I understand the rage, DW6 still had probably the basic important characters that move the story.
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Lil'Richard
Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:00 am
DW6 still had probably the basic important characters that move the story.
Agreed.

The only character I really WTFed at being cut was Jiang Wei, since he's important to later Shu. But really I didn't miss any of the cut characters that much.
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Wild Lion
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DW3 stages, music and difficulty

DW4 costumes, item system, orbs and Kingdom Mode (+ CAW in the main game again)

DW6 graphics + battle mechanics (no invisible walls, sieges, counters, grapples, running charges, hold charges, etc)

DW7 story

DW8 Weapon switch
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Lil'Richard
Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:00 am
Of course all Koei heard was the fact that there were no new characters and characters were cut. To be honest, while I understand the rage, DW6 still had probably the basic important characters that move the story.
I agree that that's all Koei heard, and that it's part of the reason why DW7/8 kinda sucked because the graphics in those two games downgraded a bit compared to DW6.
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At that point, though, they didnt go into later Shu so Jiang Wei was only good for one stage and nothing else. The one who got cut that I was surprised by was actually Daqiao, not cause she is some high level of importance, but because Xiaoqiao wasn't cut...so it just made no sense...
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Honestly 6's cast could have done with some more thinning out too

I saw no need for half the characters in each kingdom, i feel they could have freed up some resources if they just removed most of teh cast from teh beginning and tsarted from scratch

problem is koei prioritizes the popular characters over the necessary ones, case in point, sun jian over quan

quan would be cut before jian despite the fact that jian should never have been added in the first place uneless they planned on expanding on the early era
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Oh, and Pang De.

The others made a certain amount of sense.
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DMRevolution
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Cause Xiao best qiao.
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Black Lion
Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:04 am
DW3 stages, music and difficulty

DW4 costumes, item system, orbs and Kingdom Mode (+ CAW in the main game again)

DW6 graphics + battle mechanics (no invisible walls, sieges, counters, grapples, running charges, hold charges, etc)

DW7 story

DW8 Weapon switch
Well yes, other than how they portray the story in DW7, DW7 didn't bring anything new. DW8...well, I dunno about the weapon switch mechanic. The only new thing DW8 brought in was the weapon affinity stuff and storm rush, which didn't change anything the gameplay had to offer in 8, to be more specific, it didn't give the gameplay any sort of new feel to it.
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:06 am
Cause Xiao best qiao.
Agreed.
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Mr. Kamikaze
Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:05 am
At that point, though, they didnt go into later Shu so Jiang Wei was only good for one stage and nothing else. The one who got cut that I was surprised by was actually Daqiao, not cause she is some high level of importance, but because Xiaoqiao wasn't cut...so it just made no sense...
I personally think it was their intention to merge the Qiaos into one girl.

Da gets cut, then coincidentally Xiao appears in a pink dress, with a less shouty sparkly attitude and not falling over all over the place.

Da was definitely in there. It's like they made Xiao more like her as a compromise.
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DW6 Xiao was best, actulaly liked her in that one

maybe it was the outfit
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:23 am
Can they just make DW3 using DW8 graphics without changing anything else? I would get that.
Oh lord in heaven make it true :kosho:
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I liked DW5 Xiao the most, although actually I did like her in 6 being less screechy. She felt more believable
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Dynasty games need to be split into a trilogy or something. Focus less on the whole time period and shorten it into specific times. Gives them a reason to add in some people who are relevant to the times without having to worry about a character being a teenager when they should be a twinkle in their daddy's eye.
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:08 am
DW6 Xiao was best, actulaly liked her in that one

maybe it was the outfit
Her SF Fury form is one of my favorites.
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:57 am
Fat Meng Huo is better than muscular Meng Huo.
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I wonder why Koei hasn't gotten on the HD Collection bandwagon yet... everyone else is doing it, and Koei are supposed to be the king of rehashes

DMR: I've been saying that exact same thing for years. Reboot the entire series and make it into a continuing story:

DW: Yellow Turban Rebellion to Dong Zhuo's rise

DW2: Dong Zhuo's tyranny to Chi Bi

DW3: Beginning of the Three Kingdoms to unification of the land
Edited by Wild Lion, Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:12 am.
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