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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,979,645 Views)
Katatonia
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I think he's French or Spanish.

OMM: THERES BLUEBERRY MUFFINS, OREOS AND LIFESAVERS GUMMIES IN MY FRIDGE. bye bye six-pack abs.


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Mewshuji
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:15 am
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:09 am
the only thing i like about Tadakatsu is the intelligent/commander side of him shown once in a blue moon

really the man was quite a genius when it came to war its such a shame for him to be so simple in the games
There's also the fact that supposing the whole "Nobunaga used revolving fire at Nagashino" thing was actually true (there are several skeptic academics as it was the debut of revolving fire and without prior training it'd be nigh impossible to pull off), it was likely Tadakatsu who both suggested it to Nobunaga and was the one to lead the Tokugawa's rifle corps at that battle. Really, he should be a featured character there.
uuugghh i know! I dont know about SW3 but in SW2 his whole roll at NAgashino was GRRRRR IM STRONG I WILL KILL KEIJI then tadakatsu theme plays and you are told to run from him and its just like

this is one of japan's greatest commanders and warfare tacticians
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I'm guessing the new guy is using Google translate to translate from his native language. Poor guy.

EDIT: I really don't remember Tadakatsu doing anything much at SW3's Nagashino either. That was really all Oda's stage there. Tadakatsu and Ieyasu just kinda showed up and hung around the main camp.
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:20 am.
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Katatonia
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:17 am
I think he's French or Spanish.

OMM: THERES BLUEBERRY MUFFINS, OREOS AND LIFESAVERS GUMMIES IN MY FRIDGE. bye bye six-pack abs.


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You have a six pack?

I think I am stuck with a permanent flat sheet of a torso :wacko:

How can a guy have zero abs but a giant ass?
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Mewshuji
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:18 am
EDIT: I really don't remember Tadakatsu doing anything much at SW3's Nagashino either. That was really all Oda's stage there. Tadakatsu and Ieyasu just kinda showed up and hung around the main camp.
they are so mean to the tokugawa it hurts my heart
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Can you blame them? By that point of the SW story they're only good for getting trashed at Mikatagahara.

Then for getting slapped at Komaki.

Then for winning in the end. Yay.
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Eni
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:22 am
Can you blame them? By that point of the SW story they're only good for getting trashed at Mikatagahara.

Then for getting slapped at Komaki.

Then for winning in the end. Yay.
slapped at komaki
learn your history nerd the tokugawa shat all over the toyotomi at komaki
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:19 am
Katatonia
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:17 am
I think he's French or Spanish.

OMM: THERES BLUEBERRY MUFFINS, OREOS AND LIFESAVERS GUMMIES IN MY FRIDGE. bye bye six-pack abs.


No.
You have a six pack?

I think I am stuck with a permanent flat sheet of a torso :wacko:

How can a guy have zero abs but a giant ass?
No, I'm working towards a flat stomach, maybe a mini six pack in the near future. I just want to look good in my Chun Li dress
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:24 am
Eni
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:22 am
Can you blame them? By that point of the SW story they're only good for getting trashed at Mikatagahara.

Then for getting slapped at Komaki.

Then for winning in the end. Yay.
slapped at komaki
learn your history nerd the tokugawa shat all over the toyotomi at komaki
Not on Koeiland.

Although its even weirder in SW when you play Komaki and utterly trash the Toyotomi, like, big time.

Yet next stage is "Tokugawa let Hideyoshi win because reasons".
Edited by Eni, Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:26 am.
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in koeiland Mitsunari is aslo a nice guy who is just toodeep for everyone to understand and thats why no one likes him

koeiland is dumb

**** im tired im sleep now
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The Tokugawa deserve way more representation in the game than they are getting imo. I mean, SW2, the Western/Eastern army conflict was sooo one sided, Mitsunari had everyone on his side and Ieyasu had...Ina and Hanzo, because Tadakatsu wasn't at Sekigahara unless you were playing his story. And Masamune would betray everyone because they ran out of stage ideas or something.

SW3 got better with the additions of Kanbei, Kiyomasa, and Masanori...but even then, they aren't hardcore Tokugawa men and still only joined Ieyasu because they hated Mitsunari...which is kinda the same thing as saying its all about Mitsunari.

Tokugawa is my favorite clan...they need some more people.
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:asia: Still waiting to see bum, Kat.
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Katatonia
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:24 am
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:19 am
Katatonia
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:17 am
I think he's French or Spanish.

OMM: THERES BLUEBERRY MUFFINS, OREOS AND LIFESAVERS GUMMIES IN MY FRIDGE. bye bye six-pack abs.


No.
You have a six pack?

I think I am stuck with a permanent flat sheet of a torso :wacko:

How can a guy have zero abs but a giant ass?
No, I'm working towards a flat stomach, maybe a mini six pack in the near future. I just want to look good in my Chun Li dress
Then you're done.

I need to get some washboard going for my Musashi outfit... or Hanzo... if my boy would make up his mind about which series he wants to do this year
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Its fine, because SW4 got hardcore Tokugawa adds like...Naotora(Who will live till Sekigahara apparently?) and Munenori...and............Takatora?
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BUT SHE'S NOT LL NAMOOS, ENI
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Eni
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:22 am
Can you blame them? By that point of the SW story they're only good for getting trashed at Mikatagahara.

Then for getting slapped at Komaki.

Then for winning in the end. Yay.
Umm, the only reason the Tokugawa "lost" at Nagashino was because while they realized that they couldn't beat all the forces loyal to Hideyoshi in the long run... Hideyoshi also couldn't afford to keep losing forces at the rate he was, lest he wished to be content with the holdings he already had for the rest of his life. Dude already had a semi-grand design of uniting Honshu, Shikoku, and Kyushu under himse-... I mean, ahem, under the emperor. R-right, the emperor... :whistle:

Though I suppose going by Koei logic, yeah, Tokugawa were just a bunch of turtling opportunists who only won because Hideyoshi wasn't there anymore. :/
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:28 am
BUT SHE'S NOT LL NAMOOS, ENI
I want Naomasa added so no comment. :asia:
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I'd still like the Tokugawa to at least get Naomasa, Mototada, and Masanobu. Maybe Hidetada, might as well since we have Munenori.
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I only want Masanobu and Naomasa from those three. By Im forced to agree with Motorola because Nolan will bully me otherwise.

And Yasumasa because family name funny to say.
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Tokugawa got short end of stick at Anegawa facing large Asakura Force while Oda had tiny Azai to fight.
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They'll never show Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea in the games.

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Black Lion
Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:27 am
I need to get some washboard going for my Musashi outfit... or Hanzo... if my boy would make up his mind about which series he wants to do this year
Your boy? You have a little kid to cosplay with?

Thats adorable.
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:34 am
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:27 am
I need to get some washboard going for my Musashi outfit... or Hanzo... if my boy would make up his mind about which series he wants to do this year
Your boy? You have a little kid to cosplay with?

Thats adorable.
Haha no, no kids for me, I mean my friend.

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I apologize if I double posted but I feel this deserves its own post since I'm taking a fair few minutes to type it out.

Hey, Naotora has more right to be in SW than basically all the other women. She actually fought a few defensive battles, may have been present at Okehazama with her dad (this one is likely just a legend, but a legend of fighting is more than most other women even get!), and lead her clan as head for over 22 years. Even Ginchiyo only fought one battle, and some think it may have more been her going out in armor with her fellow nuns and visually scaring Kiyomasa and Kanbei than her doing any actual commanding.

Really, if Koei were to go back to SW1 again and exclude most of Western Japan like they did, Naotora should have gotten in alongside Tadakatsu. No, she's not really an IMPORTANT Tokugawa vassal, but the fact that she was a female clan leader for SO LONG and actually maintained power even after Naomasa came of age is amazing, and has no precedent in Japan whatsoever to my knowledge.
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Aw thats less adorable. Still adorable if you pick matching outifts though!

I'd make my kids cosplay as adorable characters.

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