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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,978,727 Views)
GambitCajun
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The Child of the Moon, the Wolf Slaying Deer Warrior!
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Jäger
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:09 pm
GambitCajun
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:07 pm
Jäger
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:05 pm
it may not be dubbed, ti amy just get a half assed sub job and be out in a month, it may be digital only but its going to be available overseas, koei never misses a chance to make even the most meager amount of bucks.
SW3:XL/Z and Empires would like to have a word with you.
as would the sales of SW2XL and Empires in the west like a word with you
If 2 did so well then riddle me this, why wasn't the rest of 3 released?
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Erminaz
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I might be wrong about WO3U coming to the west since they've now announced it on PS4, but I can clock my own T when I realise I made an incorrect argument in the past.

If they might be bringing out WO3U here, then SW4 definitely is coming.
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GambitCajun
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Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:09 pm
GambitCajun
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:07 pm
Jäger
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:05 pm
it may not be dubbed, ti amy just get a half assed sub job and be out in a month, it may be digital only but its going to be available overseas, koei never misses a chance to make even the most meager amount of bucks.
SW3:XL/Z and Empires would like to have a word with you.
as would the sales of SW2XL and Empires in the west like a word with you
If 2 did so well then riddle me this, why wasn't the rest of 3 released?
Bc 2s spinoffs didn't?!?!?!
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And because 3's sales were pathetic, even in japan.
It sold less than SW2XL did it was a total marketing failure on Koei's part, it was not a series for Koei to take risks on.
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Take your time Sengoku Musou 4 OST. :crazy:

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GambitCajun
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:10 pm
Jäger
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:09 pm
GambitCajun
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:07 pm
Jäger
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:05 pm
it may not be dubbed, ti amy just get a half assed sub job and be out in a month, it may be digital only but its going to be available overseas, koei never misses a chance to make even the most meager amount of bucks.
SW3:XL/Z and Empires would like to have a word with you.
as would the sales of SW2XL and Empires in the west like a word with you
If 2 did so well then riddle me this, why wasn't the rest of 3 released?
Nintendo. Contracts. It's pretty obvious.

SW3 did piss poor in the states due to it being a) not a very good addition to the SW series and b) being Wii exclusive. It's not at all unlikely that Koei gave Nintendo exclusive publishing rights for each part of the SW3 series in the West. Note that it was published by Nintendo in the West. Nintendo didn't see it as a good investment to try again with XL as it was just an expansion, and Koei saw no reason to release SW3E on Wii, so there were no further releases.

SWC was a launch title for the 3DS though, so Koei clearly knows there's still a market for SW in the US/EU/Canada.

Now, it's not unlikely we won't get SW4XL or Empires, as Koei didn't give us Chronicles 2nd, which was basically SWCXL, more or less. But SW4? We're definitely gonna get that.
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poof

he lost so he ran away
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Erminaz
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Haha yeah

I mean we all say silly things occasionally, just admit it and keep it moving but don't argue or go off and feel bitter.
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i say silly things like 95% of the time
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Maybe he just had to leave :o
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Jäger
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:28 pm
i say silly things like 95% of the time
5% off there.
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I'm sorry, your argument was 'koei never misses a chance to make even the most meager amount of bucks' but the fact that they didn't release the expasions to 3 proves otherwise. SW4 is still never being released overseas.
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Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:19 pm
GambitCajun
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:10 pm
Jäger
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:09 pm
GambitCajun
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:07 pm
Jäger
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:05 pm
it may not be dubbed, ti amy just get a half assed sub job and be out in a month, it may be digital only but its going to be available overseas, koei never misses a chance to make even the most meager amount of bucks.
SW3:XL/Z and Empires would like to have a word with you.
as would the sales of SW2XL and Empires in the west like a word with you
If 2 did so well then riddle me this, why wasn't the rest of 3 released?
Nintendo. Contracts. It's pretty obvious.

SW3 did piss poor in the states due to it being a) not a very good addition to the SW series and b) being Wii exclusive. It's not at all unlikely that Koei gave Nintendo exclusive publishing rights for each part of the SW3 series in the West. Note that it was published by Nintendo in the West. Nintendo didn't see it as a good investment to try again with XL as it was just an expansion, and Koei saw no reason to release SW3E on Wii, so there were no further releases.

SWC was a launch title for the 3DS though, so Koei clearly knows there's still a market for SW in the US/EU/Canada.

Now, it's not unlikely we won't get SW4XL or Empires, as Koei didn't give us Chronicles 2nd, which was basically SWCXL, more or less. But SW4? We're definitely gonna get that.


Now I feel kinda stupid for importing it u_u I should just enjoy the game :) What's done is done.

Jäger
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:28 pm
i say silly things like 95% of the time


Same.

Selli
Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:29 pm
Maybe he just had to leave :o


Probably.
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But Gambit, like I said, they didn't have the option. SW3E was PS3 only, and it likely wouldn't recoup any losses from porting it and asking Nintendo to publish it. Moreover, Nintendo likely had no interest in releasing XL. >w>

Like, really. What sense does it make to release WO3 but not SW4?
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On an unrelated note, I really want zebra finches, but I think I have enough people, I mean animals, to take care of
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SW3 sucked so bad and that's why they stopped at the base game. They don't do great overseas anyway and that **** flopped horribly, however, SW4 is nothing like SW3 and KOEI made sure of that, so it's like a new start for them, therefore an overseas release is likely.....but I'm not 100%
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Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:35 pm
SW3 sucked so bad and that's why they stopped at the base game. They don't do great overseas anyway and that **** flopped horribly, however, SW4 is nothing like SW3 and KOEI made sure of that, so it's like a new start for them, therefore an overseas release is likely.....but I'm not 100%
Yeah. I'm sure the game is nothing like SW3.

And I think it'll be released overseas, and I would've waited for it to happen if I had more patience.
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Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:36 pm
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:o You stole my avatar didn't you :shifty:
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GambitCajun
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Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:34 pm
But Gambit, like I said, they didn't have the option. SW3E was PS3 only, and it likely wouldn't recoup any losses from porting it and asking Nintendo to publish it. Moreover, Nintendo likely had no interest in releasing XL. >w>

Like, really. What sense does it make to release WO3 but not SW4?
It's KOEI's game they can do what they damn well please with it, there is no differance bettwen releasing SW3:E and 2:E in the west, if they really do 'do any thing to make a few bucks' they would have released it overseas, Nintendo also has no authority over anything any third-party does on a Sony console anyway.
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Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:31 pm
I'm sorry, your argument was 'koei never misses a chance to make even the most meager amount of bucks' but the fact that they didn't release the expasions to 3 proves otherwise. SW4 is still never being released overseas.
Thats an inductive leap and you know it.
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I don't think you quite understand. It's Koei's creation, but as Nintendo published it, legally speaking, it was their game in Western territories.
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I;m liking this SW3E/XL argument though :popcorn:
Edited by Mr. Crusader, Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:46 pm.
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So is 'koei never misses a chance to make even the most meager amount of bucks' when it's blatantly wrong.
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Yes it is

Bc they're a BUSINESS

they need to make PROFIT

SW4 will make PROFIT

SW3Z wouldn't have as COSTS would've been GREATER than REVENUE
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