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| Mr. Crusader | Fri Apr 4, 2014 10:54 pm Post #114651 |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Fri Apr 4, 2014 10:55 pm Post #114652 |
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Ah, but the fact that she/he was allowed to become a monk (or ... nun?!) rather than being executed by her/his power-hungry elder brother kind of indicates more towards Kenshin being a woman to me. Harukage wasn't exactly the best of dudes after all... And really, if I were Sadamitsu or the other Nagao retainers, I would've been desperate to get rid of Harukage too, simply given how he was. A civil war without a legitimate heir would've been incredibly costly to Echigo, mostly due to the sheer amount of infighting it would cause... so, simply leaving the service of the Nagao and fighting them wouldn't quite work either. With the two factions just being Harukage or Kagetora, by comparison, it would allow less chances for bloodshed and ruination of farms. True though that Kagetora likely wouldn't have been given such a proper education, though in fairness he/she was only 7 when he/she was sent off to the temple. Would've mostly only had time to learn how to write/read, which several noblewomen were taught, and been introduced to romantic classics... which notably, Kenshin DID prefer to the likes of "the Three Kingdoms" and other military stories. It's all just suppositions though.@swan: Hm, honestly, I was toying with writing Kenshin as a FtM transgender (rather, that he's biologically female but identifies as a male), and the sort of feelings he'd face due to it given his time and place in history- but I think it's ambitious enough that I'm trying to investigate his potentially being a woman. I don't want to get in hot water for portraying something inaccurately; you know, other than Kenshin being not a biological male and the undoubted grouchiness I'd get from academics. On that note, Gods planning for a novel is hard, especially a historical one. Each time I think I got a plot lined up, I have to change it up again because another event flies in my face. I feel like I might have to eventually just say "screw it" and call for more poetic licence than simply making Kenshin a woman. |
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| dancingswan | Fri Apr 4, 2014 10:56 pm Post #114653 |
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Ujimasa is an awful add on his own. Add it to what Hayakawa offers and you instantly get "Ujimasa" just in Hayakawa, but in this instance she's likable and cute. Their relationship in Conquest was perfect. Muneshige was still tossing shade as he usually does, and Ginchiyo is back to her SW2 self telling him to like eat her fist. It was cute. |
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| DMRevolution | Fri Apr 4, 2014 10:59 pm Post #114654 |
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Eat her first..Oh fist. Edited by DMRevolution, Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:00 pm.
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| Deleted User | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:00 pm Post #114655 |
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If she were made the leader Ujimasa could just do what Hayakawa is doing now Problem solved
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| Mr. Crusader | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:00 pm Post #114656 |
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Okay. |
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| Deleted User | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:01 pm Post #114657 |
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BEGIN DUEL WITH LEXIS YAOI o-ok |
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| Katatonia | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:02 pm Post #114658 |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:02 pm Post #114659 |
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Thanks for typing it up like that, that actually... describes my feelings pretty succinctly, to be honest. I'm not the best with describing my personal feelings on a matter, so I thank you for that. And hey, I'm all for Hayakawa representing later-Imagawa and later-Hojo. Ujimasa is kinda boring beyond his conquests, which Hayakawa could easily handle. There's really no need for any more Hojo except maybe Soun and Genan, the former being before the games' time, and the latter of which kinda already having his advisory role taken by Kotaro.
Isn't she just? ;w; Yeah, I noticed that too. It makes me a bit leery though- did Chronicles come out first or WO3? I forget. |
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| Deleted User | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:02 pm Post #114660 |
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b-but hojo tsunashige!!!!! |
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| Katatonia | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:03 pm Post #114661 |
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Good question, Mew. I think Chronicles did. Maybe. Psh. Best Hojo add is Benchiyo Fukushima. Edited by Katatonia, Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:04 pm.
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| LittleDragonZ | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:04 pm Post #114662 |
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Cry baby Kobayakawa for SM5.
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| dancingswan | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:04 pm Post #114663 |
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Basara had the makings of making their Kenshin trans, which with their Kenshin would've been great because of Kasuga, since a common misconception of trans is that it determines your sexual preference, when it really doesn't. Capcom just didn't realize how brilliant that would've been. ![]() Koei's Kenshin, however, I like the idea of being trans more. It just... would be amazing. BUT NOOOOOOO. Too amazing I guess. |
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| Angelic Linca | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:05 pm Post #114664 |
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I see swan is using silly UK slang too. |
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| dancingswan | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:06 pm Post #114665 |
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SHADE IS GLOBAL. |
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| Deleted User | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:06 pm Post #114666 |
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No. we only needed one kobayakawa no need for another |
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| Angelic Linca | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:07 pm Post #114667 |
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Only during eclipses.
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:07 pm Post #114668 |
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Honestly never heard of him until now, but... "He was known for his soldiers' yellow uniforms, along with outstandingly creative banners" I like him. Sengoku Zhang He perhaps? Eugh. I hope the WO3 team was just behind the times then. I'd hate it if Ginchiyo is still Muneshige's lapdog. Though, maybe since they gave us Muneshige's dad, it's a good sign? Since they don't then have to rely on just Ginchiyo to give him character development, they don't have to devolve her into a tsundere yes-man. |
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| Deleted User | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:08 pm Post #114669 |
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we dont need another zhang he **** that |
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| dancingswan | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:09 pm Post #114670 |
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I hereby decree that for as long as Hojo gets adds, they are to be female.
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| DMRevolution | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:10 pm Post #114671 |
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| LittleDragonZ | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:11 pm Post #114672 |
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Hojo needs more awesome like Ujiyasu. |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:12 pm Post #114673 |
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Honestly? Romi Park nor KobaP have ever been up front about Kenshin's gender when asked. It's also come to my attention that they never actually use gender-specific pronouns for him... It could very well be that he's a transgender, they just don't think the Japanese public is ready or Capcom doesn't want them to tell anyone outside of development or something. IDK. Eh, SW Kenshin's fine as he is, if a bit boring (in that we've seen that type of character as a male leader archetype over and over), but the wasted potential is certainly saddening, yes. |
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| dancingswan | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:12 pm Post #114674 |
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Suikeiin. Could function as a temporary Imagawa if need be, could be as awesome as Ujiyasu. Plus she would have to explain how Hayakawa got her black hair and blue eyes. |
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| Angelic Linca | Fri Apr 4, 2014 11:13 pm Post #114675 |
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It's all just suppositions though.
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starting bringing in female leadership, but
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That's asking for a bit too much imho.

Problem solved





I see swan is using silly UK slang too.
Only during eclipses.

6:30 PM Jul 12