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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,978,177 Views)
Mr. Kamikaze
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Spanish dialogue finished. Totally forgot a couple of my line.

But its over with...

now I just gotta get through this damn speech in my speech class and the semester is over, save for finals week (which I only have one test...so it barely counts)
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Kuran
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Okay the Japanese version of Let it Go was totally playing while I was dreaming. o3o
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NaoHonda Kaishosho
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Mr. Kamikaze
Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:50 pm
Spanish dialogue finished. Totally forgot a couple of my line.

But its over with...

now I just gotta get through this damn speech in my speech class and the semester is over, save for finals week (which I only have one test...so it barely counts)
Woo congrats! Gonna chill a bit now or do you have other work to do??
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Mr. Kamikaze
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since my English class was cancelled today, i have a break till Speech. So im just sitting in the library, all nervous in anticipation of the speech. Just want it over with so I can go home and waste away all lazy like...for the whole summer.
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:56 am
Was originally a little bothered by how they made Hisahide this cowardly moron every time Nobunaga approached him, but I think i now see what they're doing with him. If i'm interpreting these cutscenes right, he's the one pushing all these people into betray Nobunaga, including MItsuhide who ends up killing Nobunaga...so I guess he ends up winning in the end.

Sneaky, manipulative, bastard. I like it.
Basically Hisahide hates Nobunaga (I mean HATES, despises.) for causing him shame and dishonor. He doesn't merely want him dead he wants him disgraced, degraded, pissed on and raked over hot coals then dead. (So no trying to shiv him in the back during a clan meeting or any of that) Which is why he tries to dismantle the Oda.
Him licking Nobunaga's boots is simply him doing what he thinks will fool Nobunaga. Meanwhile it's heavily implied if not told somewhere Nobunaga suspects he's not exactly servile, but keeps him around for amusement. It's also why Nobunaga gives Hisahide important jobs in some battles, - because who better to lead your army than the person who is going to try very very hard to win so you'll think they're loyal. But then again there's always the risk of him just turning at any moment, - it's sort of the same situation with Noh. Nobunaga is aware of her charge to kill him and keeps her closeby anyway.

Nobunaga courts death on many fronts in this game, but it's done much more interestingly than in 2 & 3. (it felt really horrible and cliché in those IMO) Hisahide helped that alot I think, because his and Nobunaga's contrast and interaction really gives alot of depth to both characters. Even more for somebody able to understand 100% of the script, I'm sure.
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I figured as much, and that's all very interesting. Never care much about Hisahide when he was announced, and even seeing gameplay of him. But knowing his role in the story, and how crazy he acts sometimes, just made him waaay more interesting to me.
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not sure what to think of kotaro's role, cant tell if he's more like 3 or 2.
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Yeah truthfully I didn't either. Outside of liking his appearance I sort of got the impression he'd end up being another Oda tag along without much purpose or direction in the story.
He ended up being exactly what that story mode needed in addition to having more stages, IMO. He really breaks up the monotony of the Nobunaga loyalists who doubt his harsh methods bandwagon quite nicely.
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Hisahide's betrayal was underwhelming though, i was hoping for somthing much grander and hteatrical and instead we got a chopped up cutscene for him and he got the second half of a stage, was a bit dissapointed, really wanted afull stage dedicated to Shigisan castle, instead of just part of one with the rest of it focused on some....thing...with magoichi i didn't get what was going on there, i assume it was honganji stuff but couldt tell really.
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Kotaro is more like 3. Outside of being a trickster who enjoys discord and havoc he's basically loyal to the Hōjō. Enough so to stay with Kai even after Ujiyasu's death. (and the termination of their contract)
I haven't seen anything to really suggest he's some ruin loving chaos peddler like 2 in this. It might be there but I don't recall ever seeing it.

And the 7th Oda stage isn't Honganji I don't think. It's basically the stage with Nobunaga attacking the Saika from SW2 with Mōri (I guess to act as a prelude to the Chugoku story?)/ Koshosho alliance involvement and Hisahide switching sides. - If Honganji is there he must be one of those super generics because I don't even remember those monks being brought up in that stage.
I think the one flaw was they probably focused a little to much on Magoichi and Koshosho as enemies to the Oda. I think they Nodo Fukushima should have been Odani, the seventh stage should have been the Honganji stuff, and like you mentioned maybe a stage dedicated to Hisahide with some Koshosho and Magoichi involvement on the side (maybe).

I also think Tetorigawa probably should have had a Oda version just for the sake of showing a Nobunaga x Uesugi battle which would have probably rounded out the story a little better.
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OMM: Remember what you've overcome! :heart:
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Mr. Kamikaze
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off to speech class I go. SO long! Wish me luck!
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yeah, Oda was sorely lacking Tetorigawa, i was a bit disappointed with that too
I mean it was still good, i just dont like some of the choices they made for thsoe stages, it could have been better.
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Who the **** is this woman with Ramsay?
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:41 pm
Who the **** is this woman with Ramsay?
????????????????????????????
who knows
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Eni
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I just started watching this goddamn show and Im already confused.
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working 3 days in a row.

ahhhhhhhhhhh :kurokan:
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Eni
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Oh my god what the hell did they just do with Tyrion and Shae.
STANNIS, WHAT.

JESUS I HATE THIS SHOW.
And was Oberyn flirting with Loras? What???
Edited by Eni, Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:16 pm.
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i really dont get why they're making oberyn flirt with loras its really
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Katatonia
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I think she wants to see me in latex :lol:

Ok, Oichi, anything for you
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ahahah omg girl who plays daenerys got botox she looks horrible too ahahahahahaha
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Eni
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Well uh...that was weird.
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Mr. Kamikaze
Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:55 pm
off to speech class I go. SO long! Wish me luck!


LUCK!
OMM: Contemplating drinking some coffee. I still feel tired :kurokan:
Edited by Mr. Crusader, Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:47 pm.
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Katatonia
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:lol: we're going to Maryland Deathfest and we're over here talking about raving instead! A girl after my own heart :heart: hehe
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:46 pm
:lol: we're going to Maryland Deathfest and we're over here talking about raving instead! A girl after my own heart :heart: hehe
You're quite metal Kat.
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