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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,978,137 Views)
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LittleMonsterSakura
Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:42 am
Sadly having seen lame Kojuro, I am sad they didn't add her now.
i mean shes awful and pointless but still better than kojuro :nene:
least she could be sexy librarian
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Saburo is a kawaii potato.

Guys, I like Kojuro. :hey:
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:43 am
you guys deserve it for how unfairly against Mego you guys were
kojuro was my just punishment i accept it
still hate him
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Ooh, they should add one of Masamune's children so all the fangirls can go with it's Kojuro's. :bao:
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I dont see any reason to hate Kojuuro.

Except the supposedly crap moveset.
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I just don't like how he looks like Clark Kent

But I've not seen enough of him in game to know how I feel about him otherwise
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only tohoku adds we need are mogami siblings
anyone else aftert that i literally couldnt give less of a damn, just so long as i get those two
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I want Saburo, Mototada, and Matsu.

Wild Card Want: Saito Yoshitatsu. For no reason other than the idea of a devilishly handsome man, as equally as wicked as his sister going head to head with her and Nobunaga.

Just for the pretty, basically.
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Arminius
Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:45 am
I just don't like how he looks like Clark Kent

But I've not seen enough of him in game to know how I feel about him otherwise
:hehe: My opinions of characters change.

Didn't care for Lu Lingqi at first, but liking her a lot more now. Her air musou helped with that. :mori:
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:48 am
Arminius
Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:45 am
I just don't like how he looks like Clark Kent

But I've not seen enough of him in game to know how I feel about him otherwise
:hehe: My opinions of characters change.

Didn't care for Lu Lingqi at first, but liking her a lot more now. Her air musou helped with that. :mori:
They can do I guess

I really didn't like Zhu Ran when they were releasing his scans. But since I saw his moveset and started playing as him, he's really grown on me
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I wonder though, will KOEI ever decide that important adds are important adds? I mean some of the adds have been rather abstract *coughyinpinglingqiqueenpinkhayakawcough.* Noth that have anything against them of course.
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all female adds are abstract
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Yinping perfect princess.
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You just want more pretty boys. :toyo:
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:45 am
only tohoku adds we need are mogami siblings
anyone else aftert that i literally couldnt give less of a damn, just so long as i get those two
Yes. :mago:

I need creepy Yoshihime, and I haven't decided how I want Yoshiaki because Basara's Yoshiaki can't get out of my heard. Hyakumon had him as the doting big bro, who was creepy into his sister, but that's kind of what Aya is?
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already posted about how i want those two in that ideas thread :toyo:

didn't like their hyakkumon depictions...
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Jäger
Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:52 am
all female adds are abstract
Half true. Some of the male adds are too. I mean all of the Guan Family being put in is like really? Liao Hua would've have been better to be honest.
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While I understand the want for Dosan, unless they add Nobunaga and Nagamasa's fathers he really won't have that much to do. He dies in 1556, IIRC, and his only possible major battle is against his son, and then his son dies due to leprosy or something? I forget. Anyway, I think the mystique of Dosan far outweighs what a game like Samurai Warriors is trying to accomplish. Would he be great for Basara? No. He'd be PERFECT for Basara. I mean, can you not just imagine, a guy using oil or snakes as a moveset? Or perhaps, as someone suggested in the Sengoku Basara section, make him a Yamata-no-Orochi-like kaiju and the explanation for how Nouhime does that beam attack as her Basara. But for Samurai Warriors? Nnnot really. The most he can hope for there is to be a cutscene character.

If they're going to add a Saito, better to be Tatsuoki. Yeah, he's a bit of a ditz, but hey, he'd be better than, say, Ujizane. But better not to add a Saito at all. Nouhime, Hanbei, and Mitsuhide can more than represent the Saito for the sake of the time period the series generally covers, and any of the "Mino Three" would also be better as they did join the Oda and lived for quite some time. In fact, Ando Morinari could potentially be amazing as he DID die as a ronin, Nobunaga having dismissed and exiled him... And it's notable that he lived until RIGHT after the Honnoji incident. Certainly gives Mitsuhide a more fitting ally than Motochika and Magoichi.

Now, you may bring up Yoshimoto as a counter to Dosan, but then I bring up how damn important Yoshimoto is- not only to the Sengoku, but in proving Nobunaga's worth. He was a part of a three-way alliance that was so strong it pretty much ensured either Shingen or Yoshimoto was gonna march on Kyoto. Nobunaga winning at Okehazama, while an indicator of Nobunaga's excellent military leadership, was also extremely dumb luck. Yoshimoto was a very powerful warlord, and had he not been stopped by Nobunaga it's incredibly unlikely he wouldn't have established some form of central power.

Dosan... Not so much. He was powerful, sure, but to the extent that he's as deserving of being in compared to other unrepresented clans like the Ryuzoji or Mogami? Not really. And if they're going to be adding "weaker" warlords, well, let's add to the Takeda or Otomo or Date, I dunno. Hell, Honganji would be a more substantial add than Dosan!

Now he could be added in as an XL character. Given the freedom an XL gives, they could do a "what-if" Saito story, along with maybe what-ifs for other potential powerhouses that never really came to their full fruition, like the Imagawa, Date, Shimazu, Mouri, and even Otomo... yes I realize at one point Sorin had 7 provinces under his sway at one point, but come on, the Ryuzoji, Shimazu, and Mouri very, very quickly took them away. And even then, if Dosan was added in an XL, Koei would feel obligated to keep him in each subsequent title, which I don't see ending well for Dosan's sake as long as Koei continues to focus on the story of the three unifiers with some other battles happening at the same time thrown in. He'd show up maybe for his son's rebellion as the Oda's first stage, die, and then never be seen in the story again.

Long story short- Dosan, while a cool figure, really doesn't have the chops to be a Samurai Warriors character unless he debuts in a what-if story in an XL or something. Honestly I'm shocked the Mouri even got Itsukushima... But that's another story.


... You know, Mototada honestly would be cool, if not for his own sake then definitely for Ieyasu. He could potentially be a good friend to Ieyasu which... Ieyasu kind of needs. Hideyoshi has Kanbei, Hanbei, and Nene, among others; Nobunaga has Ranmaru and Nouhime, and Mitsuhide to a certain extent as well. Ieyasu has... no one. Everyone else in the Tokugawa is just a subordinate. Sure he cares about them, but he doesn't really have someone to call a "friend". They could potentially make Hanzo his buddy, but I dunno, if they haven't ditched the "I'm a shadowwwww" by now, I don't think they'll do it at all.
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Jäger
Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:57 am
already posted about how i want those two in that ideas thread :toyo:

didn't like their hyakkumon depictions...
Yoshihime's was cool though. :okuni:

Link me? I can't find it, and I'm too lazy to actually look for it.
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:54 am
You just want more pretty boys. :toyo:
Please, I have Zhang Bao who has muscles so there! :hmph:
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DMRevolution
Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:54 am
You just want more pretty boys. :toyo:
Please, I have Zhang Bao who has muscles so there! :hmph:
JYB :mori:

Instant ruined Zhang Bao.
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I don't understand the hate for JYB?
Yeah he uses the same voice a lot, but it's a damn good voice.
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Mewshuji
Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:10 am
I don't understand the hate for JYB?
Yeah he uses the same voice a lot, but it's a damn good voice.
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Mewshuji
Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:10 am
I don't understand the hate for JYB?
Yeah he uses the same voice a lot, but it's a damn good voice.
My reason why. :shan:
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Not a fan of monotonous voices either.

Vic Magoogoo for example.
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