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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,978,014 Views)
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dancingswan
Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:18 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/25/cultural-appropriation-katy-perry_n_4337024.html

Speaking another language isn't cultural appropriation. As stupid as she sounded, that isn't cultural appropriation.
May I ask what cultural appropriation is Swan?
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Well, I personally don't find it offensive, just stupid and annoying. So i'll leave it at that.
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Avril you took 3:18 of my admin time. :nope:
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its white people being obnoxious and tumblr social justicelites decided to get upset about it cause they needed new material to blog/complain about cause they were tired of writing and reading the same essay on feminism just with slightly different words
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I couldnt care less what culture shes trying to target. The song is a mess,especially the lyrics. The beat is atrocious, its like shes trying to do electro-pop with rock.

I supposed she did all of this to attract attention like what Miley did when her career nearly went down the drain.
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lets not forget that white people aren't the only people who take part in cultural appropriation guys :kosho:
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From that article
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Cultural appropriation refers to picking and choosing elements of a culture by a member of another culture without permission. This includes traditional knowledge, religious symbols, artifacts or any other unauthorized use of cultural practice or ideation.


Speaking another language, eating food, and wearing traditional clothes with prior consent isn't cultural appropriation.

This is cultural appropriation
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Mr. Crusader
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Oh nvm, I know what it is now :bao: But how does her speaking Japanese and having Japanese background make it offensive?

I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just wanna know why it's so offensive?
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This is now the second time someone has sent me that video of Armin breaking his legs. Maybe I should actually watch it. :dz:
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dancingswan
Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:24 pm
From that article
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Cultural appropriation refers to picking and choosing elements of a culture by a member of another culture without permission. This includes traditional knowledge, religious symbols, artifacts or any other unauthorized use of cultural practice or ideation.


Speaking another language, eating food, and wearing traditional clothes with prior consent isn't cultural appropriation.

This is cultural appropriation
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Thanks Swan for telling me that! :bao: Appreciate it greatly. But again, how does that make her song offensive? :unsure:
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Tbh, I think cultural appropriation is inevitable in the 21st century.

We're living in a world now where I'm sitting here on a forum where there are British, American, European, Asian and all other people. Cultures are becoming more integrated and less defined by political or natural borders.

It's just when it's done in a negative, forced or mocking way it becomes offensive.
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Fräulein
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This is now the second time someone has sent me that video of Armin breaking his legs. Maybe I should actually watch it. :dz:
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if its religion, I can understand and totally agree, it can be offensive. Like what Selena Gomez did in her video. But just the culture...clothes and words and so on, I just can't wrap my head around being fascinated by another culture as being offensive. Unless...you know, you hated the person who took interest.
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so people need permission to talk another language, dress a certain way or eat a certain kind of food?

So I'm being racist by ordering Chinese takeaway then?

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Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:26 pm
It's just when it's done in a negative, forced or mocking way it becomes offensive.
But I don't see how her music video was any of that?
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Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:28 pm
Arminius
Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:26 pm
It's just when it's done in a negative, forced or mocking way it becomes offensive.
But I don't see how her music video was any of that?
I guess it could be interpreted in a mocking way

Idk, I'm not Japanese so I'm not going to finger point and say "that's offensive!". Personally I think it's very borderline and to go off the deep end over it is petty, but I can understand why it might be interpreted as offensive.
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my dad has a sudden and growing fascination with Korean food, mostly noodles and spices which he is using to season chicken with.

I can't decide if I like it or not...it's kinda bitter, but at the same time kinda tasty.
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i cant handle tumblr social justic stuff i cant do it
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Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:27 pm
so people need permission to talk another language, dress a certain way or eat a certain kind of food?

So I'm being racist by ordering Chinese takeaway then?

LMFAO
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Arminius
Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:26 pm
Tbh, I think cultural appropriation is inevitable in the 21st century.

We're living in a world now where I'm sitting here on a forum where there are British, American, European, Asian and all other people. Cultures are becoming more integrated and less defined by political or natural borders.

It's just when it's done in a negative, forced or mocking way it becomes offensive.
That's not necessarily true.

Cultural Appropriation is people wearing other cultures as a costume, throwing away it's meaning, just to appear fun, quirky, and cute, when it may have actual standings and legitimate meanings in that person's culture.

Being fascinated in other cultures is a good thing, and should be encouraged. But when you wear a culture to seem hip, and different, that's when the line is crossed.
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Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:27 pm
so people need permission to talk another language, dress a certain way or eat a certain kind of food?

So I'm being racist by ordering Chinese takeaway then?

I said that isn't cultural appropriation.

The dressing a certain way maybe if it has meaning in that culture.
Edited by dancingswan, Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:31 pm.
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but i dont have prior consent??? So what is it then?
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My question is then- who do you ask for permission from to wear such clothing? Like, who is the authority on such things? And I mean, isn't it possible that authority might not actually speak for the whole culture???

It's just... very very confusing?


Edit: Oh I see then.
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:35 pm.
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I admire Swan's intellect. Swan, how are you so smart?
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maybe im wrong, but im sure they have a different name for Kung Pow Chicken in China than they do in the West. So I don't think you're actually speaking Chinese.
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Speaking another language isn't cultural appropriation.
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