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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,976,276 Views)
Uesugi Kenshin
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I would say I hope he gets a better personality in DW9.
... but we know it won't happen.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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I feel like Fa Zheng forgot he was a vengeful evil untrustworthy dude about half way through the two stages he was featured in.
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The Child of the Moon, the Wolf Slaying Deer Warrior!
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I still think he should just sing 'I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire' for all his lines, it at least be an improvement.
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Eni
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Fa Zheng saving grace for me is that he is as grateful as he is vengeful.

Plus the carpet is a fun moveset.
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Astus
Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:55 pm
Eni
Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:53 pm
Yu Jin in the XL story was crap. He was Zhuge Dan with a bigger stick up his ass.
His design and moveset are great but he deserved a main entry add.
His intro scene at Fan really rubbed me the wrong way.

"I'M TAKING OVER."

And you've got Pang De and Cao Ren practically fawning over him. No no no no no.
same it was really dumb???? fan castle should not be a yu jin circlejerk
that made me really dislike him

and him talking about desertters like lmao
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and the fact that Fa Zheng (IMO) is Aladdin incarnate and it just makes me roflcopter :D

OMM: No you were supposed to be on my side! Did Guan Suo make you lose to Go! or something?!?!
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Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:00 pm
Astus
Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:55 pm
His intro scene at Fan really rubbed me the wrong way.

"I'M TAKING OVER."

And you've got Pang De and Cao Ren practically fawning over him. No no no no no.
same it was really dumb???? fan castle should not be a yu jin circlejerk
that made me really dislike him

and him talking about desertters like lmao
Going into depth with his surrender would have been far more compelling. They could justify it however they wanted. Say he cared for his men or whatever bull****. It would have been more interesting and less jarring then him showing up and essentially lampshading his own historical actions with his monologue.

Hopefully they go that route in 9. It's far more interesting that whatever 8XL was.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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They won't. DW9 will go back to being the Cao Pi/Xiahou Dun show. They will continue to ignore Cao Ren, Pang De, and Xu Huang and Yu Jin will join them.
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I could really see myself liking Yu Jin if they did that but right now hes just like
weird
and i dnont get what they were going for with him
i jsut
i dont know, its really udmb
like i know koei has a history of white washing but thats taking it a bit far imo
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Astus
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That's a ban worthy comment, Kamidogu.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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it's not taking it that far though, considering that version of Fan Castle was a hypothetical. It wasn't a historical version of the battle. (Wu was allied with Guan Yu)
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Astus
Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:46 pm
@Queen - Why did Britney lead me here?

When will you mortals learn there is but Godney at the centre of the world and nothing else (except maybe some cheetos)
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Astus
Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:08 pm
That's a ban worthy comment, Kamidogu.
I won't be silence by this regime! :link:
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Eni
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Well whatever as long as he keeps the awesome moveset.
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Mr. Kamikaze
Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:09 pm
it's not taking it that far though, considering that version of Fan Castle was a hypothetical. It wasn't a historical version of the battle. (Wu was allied with Guan Yu)
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but it is???
its taking his most unique aspect of him, the thing that makes him worth adding in comparison to the other tiger gneerals or whatevery they are called and IGNORES it in his FIRSt game, in a storymode that should be FOCUSED on him and explore his character as deeply as they can, instead you get
that
which is jsut
like
what
the thing i just love about erwin/levi is just the SIZE DIFFERNECe lik LOOK omgf
kinda nsfwish
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Eni
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**** you Car Ren and Peng Duh, Im taking over.

Yu Jin sama you said our names wrong.

Who cares losers lets finish this so I can keep being a cranky asshat.
Oh Yu Jin samaaa.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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All of those stages were hypothetical, you can't focus on something that never has an opportunity to present itself. Not saying your way is not how it should've been, I would've preferred it...but the idea behind those stages didn't really facilitate Yu Jin's surrender ever coming into play.

The hope is DW9, where they will have to do the historical version of things, will show all that stuff. XL has always been rather bare bones in terms of stories. Wang Yi comes to mind, where she became far more interesting in DW8 when she was given more to do than in XL where she had one stage (that wasn't even Tong Gate) and Ma Chao didn't even acknowledge her.
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it doesnt matter because it was their choice for the hypothetical story to go the direction it did? they shouldnt have written themselves into that corner if that were the case, that or they shouldnt have added Yu Jin at that time, since he wasnt the right fit for the hypothetical story they were crafting.

Anyway you slice it it didnt work and theres no excuse
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ReVeluv

Who wants to read a funny joke?

https://twitter.com/TecmoKoeiUS/status/481804958006644736
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I thought it worked, given the story they were trying to tell. Just wasn't the story a lot of people wanted. They did choose to go that route, meaning it was all intentional, so "writing themselves into a corner" is probably a bit much, considering it's likely where they wanted to go with it anyway. You win some, you lose some, I guess.

Hopefully DW9 will showcase him better. I doubt it...cause I still fully expect the love affair with Guan Yu to persist and therefore the focus will be Xiahou Dun so he can go kill Guan Yu. But, here's to hoping.
LittleDragonZ
Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:27 pm
shots fired :link:
Edited by Mr. Kamikaze, Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:29 pm.
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but if that is the direction they wanted to go it just begs the question of why? and why Yu Jin? it doesnt make any sense.
Why does Woodash think literally everything koei does is some reference to basara? even when its not feasibly possible (maria and koshosho)
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My guess its as simple as they wanted Yu Jin added, because he was a highly requested character, and the theme of these hypotheticals were to highlight losing/downhill battles and turn them around and Yu Jin is often associated with Fan Castle...so they just came hand in hand.
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well then its clear they didnt do enough planning
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Probably not. But, I would rather get Yu Jin out of the way in an XL game to have him a little more in depth and thought out in a main numbered title. That way we can finally move away from these predictable, big time adds like Cheng Pu and Liao Hua without them taking up so much time and get people to start yelling for more "obscure"/less talked about additions.
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Nothing will ever beat the weird ass reasoning that Koei made Masamune a Orochi fanboy to spite Capcom and Basara.
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