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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,976,035 Views)
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Nocon
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:29 pm
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Eh? I'm so not, but thank?? Oh, you've seen it? Coooool, I'll definitely hafta watch it sometime soon. Although, I also need to finish Book 2 of Korra so I can start Book 3... And I gotta finish This is Infinite... SO MANY THINGS TO CATCH UP ON, WHY IS THIS MY LIFE. *rolls into an abyss*
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:29 pm
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I mean I just don't see how you could hate this?
 She couldn't possibly be THAT annoying could she?
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:31 pm
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- Selli
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:01 pm
Swan, do you know what Red Light is about?  Do they want someone to stop doing something? Or is it more like "You can't do this"? Or something completely different? XD The original sample was about giving a guy the "red light". But SM(their company) is infamous for changing the meaning of the song completely.
It's best if you watch the MV to actually understand what the meaning is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-8-EgPEY0
Spoiler: click to toggle The MV begins with a phone ringing, waiting to be answered. Just remember the phone is doing that as it gets important at the end.
Krystal is seen burning a book. I highly doubt it’s a bible as some people suggested since SM Entertainment rarely does anything particularly rebel or risk losing fans with controversial MVs (not to mention South Korea is predominately Protestant & Catholic). It’s most likely just a normal book. Books are seen as old media, something of the past as well as order and conventional rules. Hence, most revolutionaries or demonstrators like burning books and things like that to show they want change. The burning of the book symbolizes that f(x) is trying to break the old and do something new. The phone ringing might also lead us to think they are burning a telephone book, hence breaking contacts of those of the past/people they used to contact with the phone. This is a plausible theory as you will see at the end although I think phone books are usually a lot thicker.
We see a cat with different colored eyes. One is blue and the other is yellow. For people with cats or experts in cats, kittens have blue colored eyes which slowly change to yellow/brown/orange/green/amber between 3-8 weeks of age. Hence it suggests a change in age, a period of becoming mature like the f(x) girls with this more mature concept.
We then hear military march sounds quickly changing between images of the girls as a group (like a squadron) in a red light room in military uniforms to individual images of themselves with individuality. The members all get different lighting and effects while their group shots are all under strong red lights, symbolizing the order & lack of individuality of a regimented past contrasting with the mature new concept that showcases each member differently.
We see the red lights themselves clearly with those police “DO NOT CROSS” tapes, suggesting that the girls are talking about the STOP sort of red lights, showing the the red light most likely symbolizes a force that tells to them to stay the same.
The girls begin dancing in the confines of a room like their old MVs, except there is an acknowledgement of an outside world as seen with the windows with sun light shining through. This suggests that the girls are actually trapped from going further and breaking boundaries (unlike the days when we fans said they were trapped in a room by SM).
Krystal begins singing with a military jacket on but jewelry uniquely placed on her head and face with bright clear lights opposed to the red light. This shows she is slowly changing herself from the army look which is starting to symbolize the old f(x). To further show she is changing, she only has mascara on one eye, similar to the maturing cat with different eye colors.
As if to drive the point further, her lyrics say “Hey wait a minute, the weak gets eaten, under the rule of the jungle” and in this case it is clear the jungle is the entertainment industry, where every idol group must be the best to stay. This sets the stage that the song/MV is indeed about their growth and evolution to come in the world of K-pop.
Sulli continues this point with the attire and lighting, with her lyrics being "Just get pushed ahead, yeah, pushed ahead. Oops, I get stepped on though”, reinforcing the competitive and fast paced nature of their idol lives.
Luna leads the girls through room as if to escape, while red rays shoot at them. She notes the red lights in her lines and wonders "I don’t even know what’s wrong with the situation right now.” Red lights are generally used as warning of sorts which Victoria confirms with her line "Listen carefully to the whoever is trying to warn us.”
This suggests that they are trying to change but whenever they try they are made to stop. While I highly doubt SM would make a song about themselves not letting the girls grow up (which I think some of us fans would agree is true), they are most likely talking about the general public, like people in the K-pop industry or some fans or netizens etc. who did not want them to change their style and play it safe staying in their “LaChaTa”/ “Nu Abo” etc. days forever which may have been why their Pink Tape album was awesome and unique but they opted for the very f(x)-y “Rum Pum Pum Pum” as the title song.
Krystal then sings about trying to breathe and we see her alone in the big empty warehouse set looking longingly at the outside world, as well as a sad looking Amber shot in the warehouse. The pressure on them is building up like the song’s build up itself (also like suffocating them as seen with the breathing line) as they have to decide if they should continue their old style or try something new, weighing it all.
Krystal puts her hat on (I am starting to think SM loves using fedoras as a symbol of stepping up the game since SNSD's “Mr.Mr.”) and we see a light bulb bursting with energy symbolising they made their choice - they are breaking the boundaries with new ideas and concepts (you know like the thinking light bulb…)
The girls drum away like the way we do before a big secret reveal and DROPS THE BASS. They are breaking out, with very fitting fist pumping choreo and lyrics:
Open your eyes wide hun
Stop the collision right now
It’s happening right now
(You’ll be a witness to change that’s happenin’)
In front of that, caterpillar, that got pushed around like you
(When everything sinks in)
Yes, there’s the caterpillar everyone was wondering about. I think it’s very fitting to describe themselves as a caterpillar that has been pushed around since they are about to mature and bloom into beautiful butterflies but aside from that you can picture some little boy pushing a caterpillar with a stick. It’s vulnerable, it’s young. Seriously KBS, it’s not the construction equipment company.
Also note they are no longer hit by red light but a much more neutral and calming blue light. They sing about the growing red light in the chorus as if challenging the haters to come at them because they broke out and they won’t care.
Luna begins her lines about weak excuses a boy (the red light hater people) make about why she can’t change. We see a pinkish red light hitting her as her badass fashion just got up-ed another level. We also see while she has a strong mascara-ed eye, unlike Krystal her other eye is not totally makeup-less but starting to get some eye liner too, showing the change is happening. This contrasts with the red light version of her. Amber also gets a similar moment. This is followed by an explosion of colors - the pinkish red light color along with yellow, the cat eye color of maturity.
Krystal is shown leading a march when the red lights are gone, while saying they and the fans (the “you” in the lyrics) need to find an emergency exit aka let’s escape out of here.
We then a see a big brother TV with the mannequins all programmed to follow along. Victoria sings about why something suddenly stopped them again, suggesting mass media, which controls what people think and perceive of them, again, did not want them to change.
This is followed by an eye focused on by the red light, symbolising their vision was blocked out by the views of others. A flower is then exploded, suggesting something they thought they made which was beautiful was shot down.
The song builds up as before again but this time we see the girls out in the open in black and white, as if they perceive the great escape as something they long for, without the red lights or whatever lights shining on them, just a white backdrop with endless possibilities for them. Luna leads the members to do a hand flick at the lyrics “Try to find what’s important now”, as if to flip open a new page.
We see people with gas masks coming out of the red light chasing the girls as they escape the warehouse. Some people suggested the gas masks were to shield themselves from being influenced by the girls which I guess can make sense in that they don’t want change and they don’t want the girls to influence them into buying it. Aside from that I think it is possible that is symbolizes the critics in the industry and haters online - they never show their faces, hiding under their anonymousness while trying to put down the girls whenever they can.
The background of the next dance scene shows lines that seem to be a part of a complex puzzle, unlocking as they dance on, showing them breaking through and change is occurring. Krystal now has an eye patch on the eye that had full on mascara as if hiding it until she fully changes. Amber’s eye liner/mascara game also gets up-ed as her two eyes begin to become more similar make up wise.
The girls run on but turn their heads back to notice the red light turning into blue. They also continue dancing in blue light scenes. As aforementioned, the blue light symbolizes a softer approach to them, most likely fans and those who will still love them even when they change and mature.
Krystal sings of waiting for such a miracle with her jewelry game up-ed and Amber singing for waiting for the blue light to come. Luna sings they want it now as we see a house blow up backwards.
Some people suggested this was “repairing” the house which is plausible but it might be not exactly repairing but showing that instead of destroying themselves as some people think their change in style/concept would, they will actually make it better.
The girls march gloriously out of the red light as we see that both the cats’ eyes have turned yellow, showing that the change/growing up has been completed. Krystal now has an eyepatch on the other eye, showing both eyes have become the same while in the individual member cuts like Sulli’s, we see the eyeliner and mascara is now on point for both eyes.
The MV ends with the burning book being closed, showing it’s the end of an era. We also hear the phone still ringing, showing they never answered it. They are not going to answer aka meet the expectations of critics or haters or people who want them to stay the same. The poster that shows them like wanted criminals also shows they won’t care about the consequences.
tl;dr: It's about them maturing/metamorphisizing, while simultaneously pointing out the problems with Korea's idol industry or rather the public's view on idols.
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:31 pm
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Arrrgh, yeah, I need to catch up on Korra, too And about 100000 TV shows x_x I don't think I'll be able to XD
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Eni
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:31 pm
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- Mewshuji
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:29 pm
I mean I just don't see how you could hate this?  She couldn't possibly be THAT annoying could she? Ohhhh thats Fi.
Meh.
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:32 pm
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- LittleDragonZ
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:21 pm
Nobody disturb me. Listening to f(x). HEYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Nocon:
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dancingswan
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:34 pm
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- Mewshuji
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:29 pm
I mean I just don't see how you could hate this? She's not from Wind Waker.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:35 pm
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Well. No she's not. But Midna isn't either, and I love her! o:
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Nocon
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:35 pm
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Holy crap, Swan, way to analyze a video. o/ Dat spoiler is all kinds of epic.
Also, anyone up in this piece watch The Walking Dead? 'Cause I somehow randomly watched a good 7 or 8 episodes on Saturday and I don't even know what to do with myself. I don't remember the last time I yelled at a show so loudly and frequently.
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Al Hajjaj ibn Yusuf
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:36 pm
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- LegendaryDragonWarrior
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:28 pm
Zhang Liao's old voice was the same voice of Chirs Redfiled, but his DW5 voice was even better. His new voice is really terrible.
That why i don't like dubs in KOEI. They keep changing the voice actors to worst. bro you must have faith this only just xl they changed or improve it besides there many good eng voice actors like liam o brain and troy baker and matthew mercer so have faith
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:38 pm
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Ohh, wowwww!!! That was really interesting to read!! I've actually watched the MV a couple of times but didn't notice most, or any, of that @_@~ I was wondering why it seemed like they were running away at one point. Wow, that's very impressive!! Kind of makes me like it even more ^^ Thank you, swan
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dancingswan
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:39 pm
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- Mewshuji
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:35 pm
Well. No she's not. But Midna isn't either, and I love her! o: Midna was extremely obvious though in terms of addition, and is totally understandable(I love Midna too). Fi is.... questionable like Agitha.
And there still isn't a Wind Waker rep when there needs to be one.
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Eni
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:41 pm
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Fi looks boring design wise.
I'd rather the creepy tongue dude.
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:48 pm
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SM seems to be giving f(x) all the really deep concepts. Hopefully this becomes their thing. Pink Tape's concept was about virgin/first love(fitting the korean title of Rum Pum Pum Pum). Please don't go back SM, please.
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:51 pm
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I just want dubs cut completely
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:53 pm
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- dancingswan
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:39 pm
Midna was extremely obvious though in terms of addition, and is totally understandable(I love Midna too). Fi is.... questionable like Agitha. And there still isn't a Wind Waker rep when there needs to be one.  Ohh, okay then. I guess I can understand that. And I'm pretty sure we'll get people from WW, unless there really are only 9 characters!
- Eni
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:41 pm
Fi looks boring design wise.
I'd rather the creepy tongue dude. Eeeegghhh, I just don't like Girahim. But again haven't played the game so I don't know. Groose seems awesome though.
- WeaveSnatcher No Mae
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:51 pm
I just want dubs cut completely
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:54 pm
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Just found out my aunt had to euthanize her aged corgi
Don't recall if I ever met this one or not, but she looked/sounded like a fun dog
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:54 pm
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Only good Fi part in Skyward Sword was when she's sealed into the Master Sword for all eternity.
Never before had tears of joy flowed so heavily from my face.
"I'm... I'm free. Free."
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Ahsoka Tano
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:54 pm
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I don't think you can compare fi to agitha, she's definitely one I wouldn't ever been shocked about, agitha is just a complete shock.
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:56 pm
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- WeaveSnatcher No Mae
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:51 pm
I just want dubs cut completely now that not nice bro
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Eni
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:58 pm
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- WeaveSnatcher No Mae
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:51 pm
I just want dubs cut completely "All our future games will have japanese voices with english subtitles. However, we will try to take as long as we can to release the games because we want to have the crappiest font possible in our games.
Thanks for your understanding, Koei"
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:58 pm
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Well, at least Agitha has a personality and doesn't outright harass you/make the game unplayable when your Wiimote battery is low. :I
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:59 pm
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Koei's next font choice is going to Comic Sans.
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:59 pm
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- pang nuan
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:56 pm
- WeaveSnatcher No Mae
- Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:51 pm
I just want dubs cut completely
now that not nice bro Deal with it or leave it boo.
Dubs in these games are so ugly.
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Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:00 pm
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I haven't really heard good things about SM, but I don't know if that was exaggerated?? 
Ahhhh, Nodame Cantabile is getting a Korean remake!! O____O I hope it will be good Can't imagine it yet @_@~
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