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| Mr. Kamikaze | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:13 am Post #197301 |
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Also Zhao stole Yuanji from me. Ass hole. |
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| Deleted User | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:14 am Post #197302 |
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zhao was great in dw8 though |
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| Rance | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:15 am Post #197303 |
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Yuki Oh. No.
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In what way? the story made it seem like he was the cause of all of jin's problems and sima shi was the solution. He was great in DW7. The DW8 story they gave him sucked. I found it highly annoying how DW8's story (including the hypothetical) was all about how Sima Shi would have made everything better. Mits: Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I just felt more embarrassed myself because I guess I failed to convey that joke well.
Edited by Rance, Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:19 am.
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| Mr. Crusader | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:16 am Post #197304 |
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Damn, Mits sig is hot with an extra side of OMGWTF![]() How does she do it
Edited by Mr. Crusader, Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:17 am.
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| Deleted User | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:18 am Post #197305 |
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never played 7 shi wasnt even in half of the stages, zhao was the main focus of 8 and the game never stopped to foxus on his potential, shi was barely even in it |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:19 am Post #197306 |
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Zhao was portrayed as an indecisive puppet for a good amount of the story, Jia Chong was the problem until Zhao grew a pair. The idea behind Shi being admired and what not was that Zhao had to live up to it. Loved Zhao in 8, his moveset was fantastic too. |
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| Mitsuchika | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:20 am Post #197307 |
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I'm gonna eat you, fire. Then I'm going to make you my woman!
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Oh, it's fine, Emperor Yuan Shu, I am afraid I never catch on with joke very well. Don't fell bad. Thinking about it, I should have known you'd have seen him because he was in the first video ![]() Crusader: Thank you. Which sig are you talking about?
Edited by Mitsuchika, Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:22 am.
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| Deleted User | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:21 am Post #197308 |
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which is called character development i know, its a foreign concept to warriors fans |
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| Rance | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:22 am Post #197309 |
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Go play it and you'll see what I mean. The DW8 Jin story, including the hypothetical, makes it seem as if Sima Shi is the blessed solution to all of Jin's problems. If only he was alive, apparently he could have prevented Zhuge Dan's rebellion, conquered Wu and Shu-Han simultaneously in a matter of months and put the Jin house in order. And he wouldn't even shed any blood doing so! Sima Zhao, by contrast, is portrayed as causing a ton of problems. This is pointed out by Jia Chong repeatedly, to my great annoyance. He's shown as being in the shadow of his brother and somehow inferior in every way. DW7 was not like that at all. DW7 made Sima Zhao a true and real hero who deserved to unite the land and create a new era.
Please. Go play DW7. In that game he develops from a lazy slacker shirking his responsibilities into a leader who is willing to put aside the deranged morals of the past and do what is necessary to unite the land. In DW8, he's portrayed as completely incompetent in contrast to his brother, Sima Jesus Christ Shi. Edited by Rance, Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:24 am.
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| Mr. Crusader | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:22 am Post #197310 |
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The one with Mitsunari and Motochika. SO****INGH-O-T |
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| ChibiGingi | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:25 am Post #197311 |
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Am I the only one that likes what I like and doesn't give two bucks about having to validate why I like it or why someone else hates it? |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:27 am Post #197312 |
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I dunno, if someone hates something it'd be nice if they could at least say why, if for no other reason than for the sake of conversation...otherwise i'd just lock myself in a basement and not interact with people, in real life or online or whatever. |
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| Deleted User | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:27 am Post #197313 |
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youre taking the hypotheticals too seriously, theyre literally all nonsense, i dont even pay attention to them he could only preven dan's rebellion cause dan had his ehad so far up shi's ass and was an annoying prick anyway, i dont think having that dumbass on your side is a good thing but idk, thats just me i suppose wailing idiots looking for attention dont get much respect from me again, character development, that is exactly what he becomes by the end of the dw8 story. why would i EVER play 7 |
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| Mitsuchika | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:27 am Post #197314 |
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I was wondering if that was the one you were talking about. I noticed you were a Mitsunari fan too. And a fan of Masamune too Mr. Kamikaze and ChibiGingi: I'm the same way. I don't like having arguments about who is better or what makes them better or stuff like that. I usually don't see eye to eye with them
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| Mr. Crusader | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:32 am Post #197315 |
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Mits: How do you do it? Teach me your godly ways of GFXing
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| Rance | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:34 am Post #197316 |
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The hypothetical scenarios are like 1/3 of the story mode in the game. It is not just Zhuge Dan...DW8 really goes far out of its way to make Sima Shi seem like an intelligent, great, charismatic and amazing leader. I feel that he was definitely a good, charismatic leader, but he had some serious flaws as well. This is not really indicated by DW8 at all. On the other hand, Sima Zhao's flaws stick out like a sore thumb hit repeatedly by a sledgehammer and pulsating with blood and pus. This is what I am trying to say. In DW7, I just personally felt that Sima Zhao was a lot better written. I also feel like they didn't idolize Sima Shi as much, and this actually benefited the story. Sima Zhao felt like the main character of Jin in DW7. In DW8, he wasn't nearly as great and the Battle of Chengdu was also a lot less epic. That is just, like, my opinion mang. I accept it if you disagree. I think if you played DW7, you'd find Jin's story a lot better though. The DW7 ending for Jin was really good. The DW8 historical ending for Jin was...really lackluster. It was Sima Zhao walking through a street and wondering what went wrong in his life. If you compare that to the message of DW7, it's a lot worse in my opinion. Edited by Rance, Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:36 am.
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| Eni | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:35 am Post #197317 |
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Zhuge Dan is great |
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| dancingswan | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:36 am Post #197318 |
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I like all of Jin as of right now.
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| Deleted User | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:38 am Post #197319 |
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im not comparing 7 to 8 though??????????? im just saying zhao is a good character and that i enjoyed him in 8 like, i never mentioned 7 other than the fact that i had never played it, so idk why this is suddenly the focus |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:38 am Post #197320 |
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To piggyback off the great Yuan, I honestly think you'd come to appreciate Lianshi a whole lot more if you played DW7. She was more like Quan's Yuanji in that game than just running around doing whatever. |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:39 am Post #197321 |
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I dont fully like Jin yet. First we need Xin Xianying, Yang Hu, and Chen Tai then we'll be in business. |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:39 am Post #197322 |
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Edit: I think it's because Koei changes how the characters are portrayed from game to game, even in subtle ways. EDIT: KAMI DON'T YOU NINJA ME WHEN I'M TOO LAZY TO USE THE EDIT BUTON Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:40 am.
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| Deleted User | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:39 am Post #197323 |
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i dont like yuanji. |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:41 am Post #197324 |
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Koei changes focus, DW8, for Wu, was a lot more about the relationship between Wu and Shu than it had ever been in previous games. DW7 Wu had a heavy focus on Sun Quan's rise to power, and that's where Lianshi shined the best. When that focus went away entirely, so did Lianshi's purpose. She still does way more than almost every other female character though, so it's all good. |
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| Deleted User | Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:42 am Post #197325 |
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Wu doesnt feel like it has a focus |
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