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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,975,161 Views)
Kuran
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You don't have to make a big deal about it. (just saying)

I am just here to give info when I got the facts.
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Nghet
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No you guys are actually wrong on immigration in Japan. I have tons of friends who migrated here and living and kicking it up. I was sent to study in Japan on a MEXT scholarship that there are hundreds of us here. And every year Nikkei go on recruiting worker outside of the country for the Nikkei 255.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:09 am
No you guys are actually wrong on immigration in Japan. I have tons of friends who migrated here and living and kicking it up. I was sent to study in Japan on a MEXT scholarship that there are hundreds of us here. And every year Nikkei go on recruiting worker outside of the country for the Nikkei 255.
Maybe our standards of living are a little different :hehe:

It's a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there anyway.
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Kuran
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I heard there was visas. I didn't think it was impossible. Just visas are always annoying to get and the process etc.

edit: Smaller living spaces. You better not be claustrophobic.

EDITx2: I may be wrong but generally places with a lot of people (ALOT) have smaller places to live in.
Edited by Kuran, Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:13 am.
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ChibiGingi
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Go back to work in, supposedly, two days.

The mere thought of it makes my stomach hurt.
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Kuran
Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:08 am
You don't have to make a big deal about it. (just saying)

I am just here to give info when I got the facts.
Okay. I understand.

I also appreciate all your input. I'm gonna do what I can to make it :beard:

B--But maybe I should visit there first before I go there. Maybe I can stay for a week. Idk when. Maybe when I'm legal :mellow:
Until then, I need to figure out a backup plan. I may not want to do this. I could always make a video game based off of Koei games :mellow: The only reason why I wanted to go there is to work for Koei. Maybe I'd just be better off creating something similar to Warriors games? Idk
Edited by Mr. Crusader, Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:15 am.
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Wild Lion
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You'd have a lot more success trying to do something in your own country where they speak your language and don't treat you like a leper
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Kuran
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You need to know how to do game programming and game design first. Character design, storyboarding, animation etc.

You still need math you know that right?

EDIT: They're just not used to foreigners. It's like how people treat minorities around the world.
Edited by Kuran, Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:18 am.
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I'm still thinking of getting a Koei community here in Philly, but I don't know what I want, or how to go about it.

Though I do know that I want a back massage.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:17 am
You'd have a lot more success trying to do something in your own country where they speak your language and don't treat you like a leper
:lol:
Kuran
Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:17 am
You need to know how to do game programming and game design first. Character design, storyboarding, animation etc.

You still need math you know that right?

EDIT: They're just not used to foreigners. It's like how people treat minorities around the world.
I see. I guess LW is right then :mori:

But first I'll visit there and then go from there.

Also Kuran, I'm actually planning on just writing the story and giving the orders and calling the shots while everyone else does all the graphics shite.
Edited by Mr. Crusader, Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:22 am.
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What is this... I don't even...
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Kuran
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You obviously don't see how hard it is just to get a team up and running. The story writer doesn't call the shots. The story writer writes the story and occasionally gives input on the design. Unless you have a design preplanned in your head and you're able to tranfer it to paper.

The reality of your plan is absolutely flawed in every way because you only have the goal in mind but not the stepping stones in between. The stepping stones are the skills you need, money, time, people, equipment, etc.

To get skills you still have to go to college of some kind.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:10 am
Nghet
Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:09 am
No you guys are actually wrong on immigration in Japan. I have tons of friends who migrated here and living and kicking it up. I was sent to study in Japan on a MEXT scholarship that there are hundreds of us here. And every year Nikkei go on recruiting worker outside of the country for the Nikkei 255.
Maybe our standards of living are a little different :hehe:

It's a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there anyway.
4 years here is definitely enough for me.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:26 am
You obviously don't see how hard it is just to get a team up and running. The story writer doesn't call the shots. The story writer writes the story and occasionally gives input on the design. Unless you have a design preplanned in your head and you're able to tranfer it to paper.

The reality of your plan is absolutely flawed in every way because you only have the goal in mind but not the stepping stones in between. The stepping stones are the skills you need, money, time, people, equipment, etc.

To get skills you still have to go to college of some kind.
I know I'm gonna have to go to college, and am prepared for that. I was actually planning on writing the designs down and giving it to the artists to make it a reality. I want to be the project manager.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:19 am
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:17 am
You'd have a lot more success trying to do something in your own country where they speak your language and don't treat you like a leper
:lol:
Kuran
Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:17 am
You need to know how to do game programming and game design first. Character design, storyboarding, animation etc.

You still need math you know that right?

EDIT: They're just not used to foreigners. It's like how people treat minorities around the world.
I see. I guess LW is right then :mori:

But first I'll visit there and then go from there.

Also Kuran, I'm actually planning on just writing the story and giving the orders and calling the shots while everyone else does all the graphics shite.
You have to start from the ground as a code monkey before you even get to call a single shot. Got to put in your dues with hard labor and skill, nobody is going to give you a directorial position just because you want it. That's the result of many, many years of hard work and success.
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I think I'll just start out as a character designer and writer then. Le sigh
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Kuran
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You're not getting the big picture. It doesn't work that way. You have to work your way up. Not starting mid way. Unless you have the degrees and experience to prove that you can start at that position it's very highly that you can't start there.
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Okay, then I just have to work for those degrees and that experience to do that, right?
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Well yeah start with the degree, and handling a job at the same time while you're in school. Build your portfolio while you're in college, and that's start out experience.
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Being foreigner doesn't help securing a job for KT japan either as their creative work is mostly handed to Asian as they understand the mentality, the market...
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Alright, then I'll go with that then. So I guess I have to study art right? Would I be able to learn more in depth how to draw in college or what, lol? I already have plenty of experience with writing. I have so many rough drafts of shite I've written that go back to when I was 8 :wacko: (most of which are lost, but I'm pretty sure in the next 4 years I'll have some stuff to prove my experience)
But if the JP would just treat me like that, then I don't see the point in being curious about them if all they think of me is contempt :upset:
Edited by Mr. Crusader, Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:42 am.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:40 am
Alright, then I'll go with that then. So I guess I have to study art right? Would I be able to learn more in depth how to draw in college or what, lol? I already have plenty of experience with writing. I have so many rough drafts of shite I've written that go back to when I was 8 :wacko: (most of which are lost, but I'm pretty sure in the next 4 years I'll have some stuff to prove my experience)
But if the JP would just treat me like that, then I don't see the point in being curious about them if all they think of me is contempt :upset:
It's not so much contempt as it is: What do you offer that they don't already have?

There is no shortage of writers and artists in Japan, and a director is a seniority position. Age and seniority is very important in Japan, even more than skill or talent.
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In college? They expect you to know how to draw already at least with basics like perspective, proportions, shading, value, positive/negative, lighting, shapes etc. They won't teach you how to draw. Besides i'm sure they need like portfolios there or something. You still need to take writing. Don't think you're a hot shot right now with writing you will need to continuously work on it. They teach skills that normally you don't know when you're self taught.

However colleges expect you to already know all of the basics of whatever you're taking. The pre-reqs are always highly recommended. Knowing how to draw, and knowing how to write helps. The proper usage of grammar is much needed in writing however. There's also citations for reports that you're writing and research. For drawing it's as I said above.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:45 am
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Alright, then I'll go with that then. So I guess I have to study art right? Would I be able to learn more in depth how to draw in college or what, lol? I already have plenty of experience with writing. I have so many rough drafts of shite I've written that go back to when I was 8 :wacko: (most of which are lost, but I'm pretty sure in the next 4 years I'll have some stuff to prove my experience)
But if the JP would just treat me like that, then I don't see the point in being curious about them if all they think of me is contempt :upset:
It's not so much contempt as it is: What do you offer that they don't already have?

There is no shortage of writers and artists in Japan, and a director is a seniority position. Age and seniority is very important in Japan, even more than skill or talent.
Oh. I see. Then yeah, I guess you're right. Maybe I should stick to my guns and try to make it in this country. I actually have been working with this game company as a writer (I know, it's hard to believe as I'm only 14). I can't give out too much detail as to what we're planning. I can't spoil it :hehe: So maybe that'll help, huh?
Kuran
Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:46 am
In college? They expect you to know how to draw already at least with basics like perspective, proportions, shading, value, positive/negative, lighting, shapes etc. They won't teach you how to draw. Besides i'm sure they need like portfolios there or something. You still need to take writing. Don't think you're a hot shot right now with writing you will need to continuously work on it. They teach skills that normally you don't know when you're self taught.

However colleges expect you to already know all of the basics of whatever you're taking. The pre-reqs are always highly recommended. Knowing how to draw, and knowing how to write helps. The proper usage of grammar is much needed in writing however. There's also citations for reports that you're writing and research. For drawing it's as I said above.
I'll have to think more about it. Although just in case this game I'm working with for this team doesn't work out, I'll go with what you're suggesting. Which means I need to study more drawing and writing shite. Although I'm sure school will teach me stuff I need to know for a writing course in college, what you're suggesting I think I need to think on deeply and carefully.
Istg idk how people afford photoshop without breaking the bank :crazy:
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Edited by Mr. Crusader, Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:06 am.
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I slightly envy Crusader since he might get Japanese studies when he gets older. I wanted that major but no one in my university teaches at least Nihonggo lately. So I have Southeast Asian studies as my major instead. So yeah, Japan isn't the only country I appreciate. Still hating on China and its cruel ways to take territories they don't own at all.

P.S. I'm glad I don't have Math subjects anymore, but sad truth is whether you like it or not, you're forced to take complicated Math subjects for two school years (since high school, it's my least favorite subject. no, really) in your college life regardless of your course.
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