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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,974,939 Views)
Benzod
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Isn't he just Emperor Xian with Huang Zhong's face?
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UpInMahBubble
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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Mr.Honda
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:37 pm
Can't wait until I get to the Mystic Realm stages :sly:

Will probably make some Story Mode progress this weekend in co-op :asia:
Mystic Realm stages are beautiful :asia:

(reminder, play as Human Nezha the stage after you unlock him. Koshi castle I think it is. So you can experience the story properly; it even gives you an event! :asia: )


One thing I can't wait to see in English is some optional dialogue from

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Rance
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dancingswan
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:32 pm
K.
I'm not sure what this means. Are you accepting that your argument of "retarded" being a bad word is inherently flawed? I hope that's the case.

I should reiterate, again, that I was not using retarded to describe a person, but the actions of a fictional character. Context is important in determining whether a word is inappropriate or not. There is a big difference between telling somebody to "go to hell" and describing Hell as presented in Dante's Inferno.

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Mr. Crusader
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WeaveSnatcher No Mae
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:35 pm
Who is worthless???

Loving wo3u so much, I'd forgot so much in the English version.
its eys
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Uesugi Kenshin
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it was joke, i knew about that uwu

I'm really conflicted about the use of it as a descriptor for something dumb or stupid. On the one hand I understand the hurt it puts people through, in a similar way to when people use "gay" to describe something negatively. On the other... no legitimate medical practitioner uses that terminology any longer, unlike how "gay" is used for homosexuals still. Similarly, the alternatives- dumb or stupid- also used to refer to those with developmental, mental, or other disabilities, yet they seem to be accepted as okay alternatives. Not to mention it can be used simply to mean "delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment." Like, as in, flame retardant and the like...

Still, I DO see it used by some people- no one here don't worry- as a derogatory way to refer to those with mental disabilities or differences, so like... In that way I guess, for now, it's probably best not to use it? idk
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Most of these side battles are just battles that were in the original game, but on the opposite side.

Im surprisingly not bothered by this, as they are at least very well done.
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Fräulein
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full offense
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oh my god
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Mr.Honda
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UpInMahBubble
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:41 pm
Mr.Honda
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:37 pm
Can't wait until I get to the Mystic Realm stages :sly:

Will probably make some Story Mode progress this weekend in co-op :asia:
Mystic Realm stages are beautiful :asia:

(reminder, play as Human Nezha the stage after you unlock him. Koshi castle I think it is. So you can experience the story properly; it even gives you an event! :asia: )


One thing I can't wait to see in English is some optional dialogue from

Spoiler: click to toggle
:o

I need to see this Kai dialogue :asia:

Knew about the event, but didn't know I needed to actually have him on my team. Thanks, will remember that :asia:
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UpInMahBubble
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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Mr. Kamikaze
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:42 pm
Most of these side battles are just battles that were in the original game, but on the opposite side.

Im surprisingly not bothered by this, as they are at least very well done.
Don't worry, you get new side battles too. I liked the ones that had Gyuki and Dodomeki in the recommended team.

And of course, Yuan Shao, Ginchiyo and Zhurong the dream team :lol:

Yeah Honda, it was done in traditional Kai fashion, a lot of yelling!. I need to play through the game in English anyway cause I forget there's so much optional dialogue between characters.

Like Bao Sanniang and Nohime at Chang Ban. Nohime is doing her usual "fufufufu death is scary is it not? ~wink~" and Bao is just like "yeah whatever old lady, just get out the way" :hehe:
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UpInMahBubble
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:44 pm
And of course, Yuan Shao, Ginchiyo and Zhurong the dream team :lol:
That stage with Yuan Shao reminded me so much of the WO stage where you rescued him and all of the unique dialogue from people wanting to put him back in the cage or beat him up :XD

Yuan Shao - forever a douche :asia:
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Rance
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Mewshuji
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:42 pm
it was joke, i knew about that uwu

I'm really conflicted about the use of it as a descriptor for something dumb or stupid. On the one hand I understand the hurt it puts people through, in a similar way to when people use "gay" to describe something negatively. On the other... no legitimate medical practitioner uses that terminology any longer, unlike how "gay" is used for homosexuals still. Similarly, the alternatives- dumb or stupid- also used to refer to those with developmental, mental, or other disabilities, yet they seem to be accepted as okay alternatives. Not to mention it can be used simply to mean "delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment." Like, as in, flame retardant and the like...

Still, I DO see it used by some people- no one here don't worry- as a derogatory way to refer to those with mental disabilities or differences, so like... In that way I guess, for now, it's probably best not to use it? idk
Nobody should associate the descriptor retarded with the mentally handicapped. It is, in my opinion, inappropriate to call the mentally handicapped "retarded." The mentally handicapped should be called the mentally handicapped.

The word "retarded," on the other hand, is a perfectly viable word to describe something stupid like some "ninja thief" wearing a cannon on his back that would undoubtedly obliterate him from recoil on any occasion of firing.
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UpInMahBubble
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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I found 3 dialogues for Zhenji too I wanna see what she says.

Nagashino, she got mad at Masamune

The Search for Muneshige had her sad emotion in the text box when Ginchiyo gets ambushed in the base.

The stage where you get Yoshimoto, she looked disgusted when he offered them a game of kemari :lol:
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Randy
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ドッカーン
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Something something euphemism treadmill
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Mewshuji
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Oh naturally it's inappropriate to call them as such but it doesn't stop people from doing it. People are mean.

Anyway new subject.
Iguanas are very fitting for one who likes the sun so much. Have you perhaps also considered becoming a certain Okra?
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I really like Kai's Japanese voice. Xu Huang's too. Very shouty. I think they're cute. :asia:
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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Kai's Japanese voice gives me life, especially when she yells at Naotora and it scares her off.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Randy
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:48 pm
Something something euphemism treadmill
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Astus
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LDZ!

How does your search for your personal assistant go?

I hear they have to be a pretty big fan of KOEI games and get to really help out with KW too!

They really have to support you.

And only you.

You have to be their favourite.
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:XD
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Mr. Kamikaze
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I guess big star weapons dont appear in cutscenes. I guess that's the pattern im seeing?

Some characters have the weapons I have equipped, and then some dont.
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Astus
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:50 pm
LDZ!

How does your search for your personal assistant go?

I hear they have to be a pretty big fan of KOEI games and get to really help out with KW too!

They really have to support you.

And only you.

You have to be their favourite.
Wait what?
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LittleDragonZ
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Worthless
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:41 pm
dancingswan
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:32 pm
K.
I'm not sure what this means. Are you accepting that your argument of "retarded" being a bad word is inherently flawed? I hope that's the case.

I should reiterate, again, that I was not using retarded to describe a person, but the actions of a fictional character. Context is important in determining whether a word is inappropriate or not. There is a big difference between telling somebody to "go to hell" and describing Hell as presented in Dante's Inferno.

Worthless, you can understand that it's got this issue with peoples opinions of the word, and that many will think it can be offensive irregardless of your personal opinion? That it's not sensible to avoid such a situation?
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Rance
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Mewshuji
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:48 pm
Oh naturally it's inappropriate to call them as such but it doesn't stop people from doing it. People are mean.

Anyway new subject.
Iguanas are very fitting for one who likes the sun so much. Have you perhaps also considered becoming a certain Okra?
That's exactly why I like iguanas. They enjoy nothing more than sitting on a hot rock and basking in the sun. I know because when I was younger, a neighbor had an iguana who would leap fences and travel distances just to lay on the hot rock nearby my pool and bask in the sun.
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Mewshuji
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:50 pm
Randy
Fri Sep 5, 2014 8:48 pm
Something something euphemism treadmill
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It's that thing you described earlier. How idiot and the ilk used to mean specific things like mental capacities or retardation, but since it was adopted colloquially for insults, people came up with new words like retarded. However, that in turn just makes people use them to insult people too, so the cycle, or the euphemism treadmill, repeats, and people will try to come up with a new descriptor.
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So pathetic and laughable.

I need to eat this chiken fajita salad.
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