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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,974,897 Views)
Mr. Crusader
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:04 am
mashing triangle instead of x is a rather superficial way of changing things
It's better than being forced to use new movesets that aren't any different than what we got in the PS2 days along with other contrived bull****
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Katatonia
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Hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHlJ2voJHY
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Rance
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Hmm...put a river behind your back and there is nothing left other than to advance. Cut off all other options and it's easier to accomplish a goal.
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Mr. Crusader
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:02 am
Mitsuchika
Sun Sep 7, 2014 3:57 am
Cleaning up my photobucket, I can tell I need to remake things. Some of it I forgot. Like the Magobear sig. What was I on when I made that thing? :XD
If you have enough time to clean out your Photobucket, you could easily move all your shite to http://puush.me/

Because I wasn't getting rid of as much as I thought I would and I'm mainly just looking at them. And I'm not looking at all the folders I have because I have a lot, but I got the program.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:08 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:02 am
missed a message after beating the last stage...I accidentally skipped it, right before it told me I unlocked the officer color edit thing

its bugging me, I dont know what it said...probably something not important and i'd figure it out myself, but I still want to know what it said :tora:
You do the stages where you use Divine Mirror on Kyubi's Tails/Imposters?

You do that after beating main paths.
Im about to start those now

is that what the message said?
Mr. Crusader
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:09 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:04 am
mashing triangle instead of x is a rather superficial way of changing things
It's better than being forced to use new movesets that aren't any different than what we got in the PS2 days along with other contrived bull****
Which is precisely one of the things that needed to change and didn't. Covering it up is not changing it. Not saying I won't have fun with SW4, I will play the hell out of it...but lets not be delusional here.

I hope DW9 is open world like they talked about. That'd be fun and something actually new for the series. That is change.
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Angelic Linca
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:17 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:08 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:02 am
missed a message after beating the last stage...I accidentally skipped it, right before it told me I unlocked the officer color edit thing

its bugging me, I dont know what it said...probably something not important and i'd figure it out myself, but I still want to know what it said :tora:
You do the stages where you use Divine Mirror on Kyubi's Tails/Imposters?

You do that after beating main paths.
Im about to start those now

is that what the message said?
Did a lot of "Mirror Realm" stages messages pop up?

I also know the Edit Color one does.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:19 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:17 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:08 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:02 am
missed a message after beating the last stage...I accidentally skipped it, right before it told me I unlocked the officer color edit thing

its bugging me, I dont know what it said...probably something not important and i'd figure it out myself, but I still want to know what it said :tora:
You do the stages where you use Divine Mirror on Kyubi's Tails/Imposters?

You do that after beating main paths.
Im about to start those now

is that what the message said?
Did a lot of "Mirror Realm" stages messages pop up?

I also know the Edit Color one does.
yeah they popped up afterwards though
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Wild Lion
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:17 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:08 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:02 am
missed a message after beating the last stage...I accidentally skipped it, right before it told me I unlocked the officer color edit thing

its bugging me, I dont know what it said...probably something not important and i'd figure it out myself, but I still want to know what it said :tora:
You do the stages where you use Divine Mirror on Kyubi's Tails/Imposters?

You do that after beating main paths.
Im about to start those now

is that what the message said?
Mr. Crusader
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:09 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:04 am
mashing triangle instead of x is a rather superficial way of changing things
It's better than being forced to use new movesets that aren't any different than what we got in the PS2 days along with other contrived bull****
Which is precisely one of the things that needed to change and didn't. Covering it up is not changing it. Not saying I won't have fun with SW4, I will play the hell out of it...but lets not be delusional here.

I hope DW9 is open world like they talked about. That'd be fun and something actually new for the series. That is change.
Exactly. Godspeed just added a new flashy spam button, it didn't change the actual game at all.
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Xalfrea
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Playing Professor Layton VS Phoenix Wright right now. Awesome stuff.
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Angelic Linca
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:20 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:19 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:17 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:08 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:02 am
missed a message after beating the last stage...I accidentally skipped it, right before it told me I unlocked the officer color edit thing

its bugging me, I dont know what it said...probably something not important and i'd figure it out myself, but I still want to know what it said :tora:
You do the stages where you use Divine Mirror on Kyubi's Tails/Imposters?

You do that after beating main paths.
Im about to start those now

is that what the message said?
Did a lot of "Mirror Realm" stages messages pop up?

I also know the Edit Color one does.
yeah they popped up afterwards though
Trying to recall all of the Post-Main Story messages, but only Edit Color one comes to mind aside from unlocked stages.
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Mr. Crusader
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:17 am
Mr. Crusader
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:09 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:04 am
mashing triangle instead of x is a rather superficial way of changing things
It's better than being forced to use new movesets that aren't any different than what we got in the PS2 days along with other contrived bull****
Which is precisely one of the things that needed to change and didn't. Covering it up is not changing it. Not saying I won't have fun with SW4, I will play the hell out of it...but lets not be delusional here.

I hope DW9 is open world like they talked about. That'd be fun and something actually new for the series. That is change.
It certainly wouldn't be change I would welcome, but whatever.
Wild Lion
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:21 am
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But it was still fun.

Edited by Mr. Crusader, Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:23 am.
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Fräulein
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i like whichever stage had the thing
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Mr. Kamikaze
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LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:22 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:20 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:19 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:17 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:08 am

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Im about to start those now

is that what the message said?
Did a lot of "Mirror Realm" stages messages pop up?

I also know the Edit Color one does.
yeah they popped up afterwards though
Trying to recall all of the Post-Main Story messages, but only Edit Color one comes to mind aside from unlocked stages.
You usually have a crazy good memory. You let me down at this crucial moment. :kurokan:

Oh well, i'll get over it tomorrow.
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Angelic Linca
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:24 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:22 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:20 am
LittleMonsterSakura
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:19 am
Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:17 am

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
Did a lot of "Mirror Realm" stages messages pop up?

I also know the Edit Color one does.
yeah they popped up afterwards though
Trying to recall all of the Post-Main Story messages, but only Edit Color one comes to mind aside from unlocked stages.
You usually have a crazy good memory. You let me down at this crucial moment. :kurokan:

Oh well, i'll get over it tomorrow.
:asia: Pay attention next time.
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Mr. Crusader
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Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:21 am
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After thinking a bit longer, I've more to say now.

The SW series doesn't really need anything to be changed. Everything in the series is fine, unless your pro-Every other Musou game except SW, then touche.

Imo, I don't think SW needs change. They don't need to fix something that's not broken, and even though Godspeed isn't really that much change in and of itself (in a way), it still managed to give us new movesets, which is something the series needed.

And whilst it isn't possible to stun enemies with Godspeed, there are plenty of ways to damage them (see my General Q&A in the SW4 section). And whilst DW has changed their movesets since DW7, it's not really anything different from the PS2 days.

EDIT: I dunno how you can say DW feels better than SW4 when it's literally the same gameplay inspired from the PS2 days, and then accuse Godspeed of not bringing in any change to SW4 when neither game series hasn't really succeeded in bringing in any change.
Edited by Mr. Crusader, Sun Sep 7, 2014 4:59 am.
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Wild Lion
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DW feels better than SW because the gameplay has actually gotten WORSE from the PS2 days.

The old gameplay may not be good, but at least it's not as brainless and spammy as what it's turning into.
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Mr. Crusader
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That's because you prefer a more timed type of gameplay so as to enjoy every animation.

Spammy things in video games aren't necessarily bad, unless there are people who think the same as you, then touche.

Maybe it's because the fanbase in Japan is changing and now they're just going with the times? Idk.
Edited by Mr. Crusader, Sun Sep 7, 2014 5:09 am.
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sun Sep 7, 2014 3:29 am
holy god, I forgot how badly Sanzang sucks. It's like Koei made her terrible on purpose.
I love her!! I find her Moveset really effective. Obviously you're not pro enough :hey:

Motochika feels like hell to use in wo after sw4, the only character that's felt outdated so far.
I'm all for Godspeed being removed from sw, I really don't like it, yes it's flashy and looks cool but it makes the game so damn broken.

Of course you don't have to use it but when you're playing the game and you know there is a simple way of getting something done of course you're gonna use it.

I'd much prefer ex attacks and multiple musous over Godspeed. Sw4 felt like a kids game to me, easy, some ugly cartoon looking special effects and some of the musou finishers are so weak it's pointless using them, most of them just look nice and aren't effective.
Edited by Ahsoka Tano, Sun Sep 7, 2014 5:30 am.
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Sun Sep 7, 2014 5:26 am
I'm all for Godspeed being removed from sw4, I really don't like it, yes it's flashy and looks cool but it makes the game so damn broken.

Of course you don't have to use it but when you're playing the game and you know there is a simple way of getting something done of course you're gonna use it.
Easier said than done. If they remove Godspeed, what can they do to make the game feel like some sort of change has been implemented? Removing Godspeed would not only make it feel like SW3.5, but it would also bring in a whole shiteton of problems along with it, none of which have very simple solutions to, either.

Those problems being how and what would they do to make it feel different from DW7/8 and previous SW games?
Edited by Mr. Crusader, Sun Sep 7, 2014 5:33 am.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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there are a number of things they can do to replace godspeed, the least of which is to just revamp and retool the movesets entirely. You like to speak in hyperbole. There are tons of creative minds working on SW and DW, they can come up with something. Godspeed isn't this end all, be all "innovation".
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Ahsoka Tano
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Godspeed hasn't made it feel like a new game. What they could do is focus on making the characters movesets more indepth, increasing charges and adding more musous.

Even without Godspeed sw4 would have felt upgraded completely from sw3 because of the graphics, better gameplay, new attacks, new musous, new characters, better stages.

Godspeed is one thing amongst so much, it doesn't make sw4 great IMO, it's just 1 feature, 1 feature that could be taken and I wouldn't bat an eyelid.
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Godspeed is SW's version of the weapon switch, instead of two weapons with two movesets, you just get two movesets.

Im actually excited for godspeed, I dont mind it making things super easy...its kinda how I prefer to play my warriors games anyway.
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But see, that's not changing much of anything from what we're seeing in DW7/8. They'd have to do more than just revamp the movesets. They'd also have to change the overall gameplay and possibly the feel too, if they would want it to be successful. I'm not saying Godspeed is the answer to our problems. In fact, to put things in perspective, I've secretly felt that Godspeed has started to make the game feel more drab.

But changing the overall gameplay...it's something that should've been done a while ago imo. Le sigh, I just...idk ┐('~`;)┌"
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The worst bit about sw4 is that I can use level 1 characters on a level 6 stage on chaos.
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DW has been the same overall gameplay since DW2, revamped movesets didn't hinder that at all.
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