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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,974,568 Views)
Rance
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:58 am
Otomo, Rokkaku, and Ashikaga.
I'm not sure I understand your love of the Rokkaku, but the others would be alright. I'm not thrilled with Ashikaga but I admit they would add some flavor to the game.

I guess I just never really cared about the Rokkaku clan, even though I admit they were of some significance.
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Rokkaku are super cool
them hosokawa miyoshi and mogami are my most wanted clans i think
naoshige is good enough for hizen
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What is so great about the Rokkaku?
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I think the Rokkaku deserve at least one playable clan member, personally. They did factor into the power balance of the Kyoto area quite a bit and were one of the first clans to publish and follow a set of well established clan coda. They also heavily utilized Koga ninja, at least in legends, according to Turnbull's book on ninja.

Now, the Gamou, if I'm not mistaken, were Rokkaku retainers before joining Nobunaga. Ujisato could fulfill a similar role to Yoshitsugu with the Azai then.
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:03 am.
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I need an add on for tumblr that lets you track anons. Know anon doesn't work.

Or even an IP tracer. I just wanna know who sends me these anons so I can destroy them :asia:
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:02 am
I think the Rokkaku deserve at least one playable clan member, personally. They did factor into the power balance of the Kyoto area quite a bit and were one of the first clans to publish and follow a set of well established clan coda. They also heavily utilized Koga ninja, at least in legends, according to Turnbull's book on ninja.

Now, the Gamou, if I'm not mistaken, were Rokkaku retainers before joining Nobunaga. Ujisato could fulfill a similar role to Yoshitsugu with the Azai then.
I just feel that that area of Japan is already well represented, whereas they probably could expand a lot more upon the stories of the Mori, Shimazu, Chosokabe and Date. Possibly the Takeda in of itself as well.
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:01 am
What is so great about the Rokkaku?
as a clan they dont stand out much like some other clans but i think they would add a lot to the game, narrative wise they help complete the kyoto politics which is a serious must for me, they need to finally focus on that ****, give a nice starting point for the Azai, some mroe independance for KAtsuiie, plus a new bow moveset which could be cool, i want like a heavy longbow moveset really badly
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What is so great about the Rokkaku?
Multiple wars against the Azai-Asakura and the Miyoshi, loyal allies of the Ashikaga shogunate, the Gamo...
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:05 am
I just feel that that area of Japan is already well represented, whereas they probably could expand a lot more upon the stories of the Mori, Shimazu and Chosokabe.
i disagree, not with that they need to expand those other regions, but that the kansai region is well repped, its got a ton of holes through it and being the center of japanese politics i think that is a huge mistake
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If she doesn't like this present then too bad. :tora:
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I need an add on for tumblr that lets you track anons. Know anon doesn't work.

Or even an IP tracer. I just wanna know who sends me these anons so I can destroy them :asia:
One reason why I'm not on tumblr anymore. People can hide behind an anon icon to vent their loneliness hate. Plus, tumblr's bitchy in even the most mild of things.

Like dogs? "OMG how can u like silky terriers they r just rats with fancy hair n such."
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I can certainly understand that yeah. The other areas of Japan need more fleshing out first.

But I am interested in Ujisato now. Technically Nobunaga considered him so closely he was like a son, even married him to his daughter Fuyuhime. The Oda certainly don't need many if any more playables, but... if they get any more, I'd want them to be Matsu, Sen, Ujisato, and then solely from a Ranmaru fanboy standpoint like any and all Mori clan members, though I suppose Yoshinari and Nagayoshi have plenty of their own merits besides. I guess they could use Kazumasu and Nagahide too though.

Edit: Though, in retrospect, looking at Jager's post, I guess Kansai in SW really just has the Asai, Magoichi, Hisahide, and Koshosho. There's a huge hole over the area directly surrounding Kyoto.
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:11 am.
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:07 am
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:05 am
I just feel that that area of Japan is already well represented, whereas they probably could expand a lot more upon the stories of the Mori, Shimazu and Chosokabe.
i disagree, not with that they need to expand those other regions, but that the kansai region is well repped, its got a ton of holes through it and being the center of japanese politics i think that is a huge mistake
It's all relative.

In an age where there were dozens of clans competing for control, of course there are holes.

Right now, however, Western Honshu, Shikoku, Kyushu and the far North (Date area) are where Koei needs to focus the most attention imo.

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Multiple wars against the Azai-Asakura and the Miyoshi, loyal allies of the Ashikaga shogunate, the Gamo...


I admit that they're important, but I just don't really see the appeal personally. The Miyoshi and the Ashikaga barely even have a role in the game yet. I don't think the Gamo would be all that important to represent since the Western army has tons of characters already.
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well no one is really saying ADD ROKKAKU NOW
but ideally with a miyoshi story and a hosokawa rep they would be an excellent addition
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I don't think they'd be pointless. I can see what they could do with them, especially in terms of improving the Asai storyline and possibly Katsuie's.

I just would rather see numerous other stuff first, such as Shikanosuke, the Otomo, the Ryuzoji and more adversaries for the Chosokabe. Along with these adversaries, of course, I'd like to see them expand the rosters for clans already in the game. I'd love to see Shimazu Iehisa, Kikkawa Motoharu, Chosokabe Morichika and so forth. Those inclusions would only be warranted from my perspective, however, if they expand upon the enemies of those clans.

edit-morichika*

As an aside, was Tomoe Gozen ever added to Warriors Orochi? If not, what the hell is Koei doing?
Edited by Rance, Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:21 am.
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The character in the background with the leaf is named Aya Shameimaru...
...I thought it was clever...
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The character in the background with the leaf is named Aya Shameimaru...
...I thought it was clever...


She's in the foreground rubbing Momiji's cheek as well, dude.
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:17 am
As an aside, was Tomoe Gozen ever added to Warriors Orochi? If not, what the hell is Koei doing?
I'm wondering why they haven't added the Lucky Seven. I'm sure Kenshin would love to meet his idol in person. Even if it's in a fictional world! :D

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Hmmmm curious, who are some other Shimazu warriors who would make great adds?
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not even gonna get to take out mah Nobuyuki myself :cry:
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:17 am
As an aside, was Tomoe Gozen ever added to Warriors Orochi? If not, what the hell is Koei doing?
no she wasnt, and koei is trying to make WO as boring as possible
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:24 am
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The character in the background with the leaf is named Aya Shameimaru...
...I thought it was clever...


She's in the foreground rubbing Momiji's cheek as well, dude.
Alright then, this gif makes no sense.

Sun Wu, he's the most obvious WO add.
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I want a Shimazu add with Toshihisa's hyakkumon look.

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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:26 am
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:17 am
As an aside, was Tomoe Gozen ever added to Warriors Orochi? If not, what the hell is Koei doing?
I'm wondering why they haven't added the Lucky Seven. I'm sure Kenshin would love to meet his idol in person. Even if it's in a fictional world! :D

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Hmmmm curious, who are some other Shimazu warriors who would make great adds?
Sengoku Rance's Shimazu consisted of Shimazu Yoshihisa, Shimazu Toshihisa, Shimazu Iehisa and Shimazu Katsuhisa.

Shimazu Iehisa makes the most sense to me. He was one of the best generals of the Shimazu and an excellent tactician overall.

Shimazu Yoshihisa would make sense too if they were willing to split up Yoshihiro's character a little bit.

Toshihisa was more minor and Katsuhisa probably wouldn't work well.

The Shimazu also had some interesting vassals such as Niiro Tadamoto and the Iriki-in. The former fought and lost a duel with Kato Kiyomasa, according to Samurai Archives. He was a fairly accomplished general in spite of this. The latter wrote a famous historical text which is partially translated in English and available on the Internet somewhere.
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I kinda want to write a Sho Nei character for Sengoku BASARA but I never finished my last one...
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:41 am
I kinda want to write a Sho Nei character for Sengoku BASARA but I never finished my last one...
Ryukyu best Asian kingdom

You should conquer the world in EU3 with them instead.
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