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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,974,252 Views)
Uesugi Kenshin
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Ugh, what's so hard about asking a Japanese actress like Rinko Kikuchi (dream live action Motoko) or an American of Japanese descent like Suzy Nakamura to play the role? Or if not that, then at least find like another East Asian descent actress. Frick, Lucy Liu would be AMAZING.

Like yeah Scarlett would probably be a great Motoko. But she's not Japanese. Why is there this odd compulsion to whitewash animated shows with Asian leads? It can't just be "muh money". You'd probably save money hiring a lesser known actress than her that would make up for the profits lost from bigots refusing to see movies with Asians in them. I really don't want to believe it's some ingrained racism in Hollywood, but the more I see **** like this the more I believe it has to be true.

I mean maybe if the rest of the cast is Japanese or at least East Asian in descent then, yeah, you could write it off as Motoko just choosing that as her appearance since she's known to change her appearance on the fly. Comes with being a cyborg and all- ya get to change your shell. But lel you know they won't be.

Like I mean, I'm kind of okay with BH6 changing two of the characters to being white and one to being black since the setting changed too (even if I think that was a dumb choice), especially as the main lead is still Japanese in descent (and Gogo Tomago is a ****ing badass so I can forgive the changes). That and the original comics were American made anyway.

But then this...

I just don't know. Changing a manga/anime made specifically in Japan so that the main character is white...

idek. It feels tacky and stapled on, like in 47 Ronin where they made up a half-white character. I mean I like the idea of a fantasy-based 47 ronin but arbitrarily throwing in a white guy (emphasis is placed on the fact he's a "half-breed", they could have just said he was fully Japanese) as a lead... blech.

Like if you're going to do a movie about a white person interacting with Japanese people, maybe do a film about Commodore Perry or the merchants who washed up on Tanegashima, or Luis Frois, or something.

/rant over, that's what's on my mind.
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Rance
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He's capable of coherent thought. He just isn't very intelligent or great at strategy. He was born and raised a fighting man, a warrior.

In Dynasty Warriors, I honestly feel like half of the kingdom of Shu-Han is more idiotic than Lü Bu is. Ma Chao is pretty much the dumbest character ever, even though he looks cool. At least Lü Bu does have certain values that he actually manifests instead of just blathering about.

lol hard at Scarlet Johansson.
Edited by Rance, Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:15 am.
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Randy
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live action anime adaptations should not exist period
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Hey now, Ruroni Kenshin live action was pretty good!
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GambitCajun
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Ain't it ironic that Koei attempted to make Ma Chao heroic but instead just made him look like an even bigger scum bag?
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Eni
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Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:17 am
Hey now, Ruroni Kenshin live action was pretty good!
He was better in Den-O. :link:
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Ryō Genken
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I facepalmed at Hollywood again for Scarlett as Motoko. How many time they try screw the main charas again? Goku, SF, Avatar,and now this.
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Angelic Linca
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Can't update my Koei games owned list until I get SW4.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Amazon hasnt shipped SW4 yet... :(

makes me nervous
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ChibiGingi
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*is totally going to see GitS live action movie if only for Scarlett Johansson*

I'll be honest and say that while I agree that they could have gone with an Asian actress, my love for Ms. Johansson supercedes all other logical thoughts and desires right now.

So, if I'm part of the problem, I'm sorry that I'm not sorry.

(Besides, it's going to suck, regardless if they got a Japanese or Asian actress on board anyways... come on, you know it to be true. Or in the very least, it won't make enough money in the box office to warrant a sequel or anything...)
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Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:41 am
*is totally going to see GitS live action movie if only for Scarlett Johansson*

I'll be honest and say that while I agree that they could have gone with an Asian actress, my love for Ms. Johansson supercedes all other logical thoughts and desires right now.

So, if I'm part of the problem, I'm sorry that I'm not sorry.

(Besides, it's going to suck, regardless if they got a Japanese or Asian actress on board anyways... come on, you know it to be true. Or in the very least, it won't make enough money in the box office to warrant a sequel or anything...)
Richard Epcar as Batou
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Rance
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Great actress, terrible casting.

I frankly agree with Randy that live-action anime adaptations are a dumb idea to begin with, though.
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Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:13 am
He's capable of coherent thought. He just isn't very intelligent or great at strategy. He was born and raised a fighting man, a warrior.

In Dynasty Warriors, I honestly feel like half of the kingdom of Shu-Han is more idiotic than Lü Bu is. Ma Chao is pretty much the dumbest character ever, even though he looks cool. At least Lü Bu does have certain values that he actually manifests instead of just blathering about.
But he was also a warlord, capable enough in strategy to find the right moment to strike and take what his masters have. How else would he continuously be employed and backstab various lords with an untrustworthy reputation? I don't mean we need to see him as a brilliant tactician, just stop screaming and boasting and chest puffing and I will be happy. A little brains is all I ask.

What values?! He is just a blatherer, just like Shu-Han.
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Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:43 am
ChibiGingi
Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:41 am
*is totally going to see GitS live action movie if only for Scarlett Johansson*

I'll be honest and say that while I agree that they could have gone with an Asian actress, my love for Ms. Johansson supercedes all other logical thoughts and desires right now.

So, if I'm part of the problem, I'm sorry that I'm not sorry.

(Besides, it's going to suck, regardless if they got a Japanese or Asian actress on board anyways... come on, you know it to be true. Or in the very least, it won't make enough money in the box office to warrant a sequel or anything...)
Richard Epcar as Batou
I am absolutely on board with this. 100 % .

In fact, I would actually pitch a bigger fit if Richard Epcar WASN'T Batou.

@Worthless- Agreed. Oh well... at least she'll look hawt.
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Uesugi Kenshin
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Don't get me wrong, if there is gonna be a live action GitS, I'm gonna see it. And as I said, Scarlett could probably play the part of Motoko very, very well. It's just... so ****ing weird and arguably gross they wouldn't cast a Japanese gal. Idk

Especially as Rinko would be PERFECT for the part.
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:07 am.
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Fanfic art is fun :D let's see if I can make the rest look good. Three more characters
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Rance
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Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:46 am
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Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:13 am
He's capable of coherent thought. He just isn't very intelligent or great at strategy. He was born and raised a fighting man, a warrior.

In Dynasty Warriors, I honestly feel like half of the kingdom of Shu-Han is more idiotic than Lü Bu is. Ma Chao is pretty much the dumbest character ever, even though he looks cool. At least Lü Bu does have certain values that he actually manifests instead of just blathering about.
But he was also a warlord, capable enough in strategy to find the right moment to strike and take what his masters have. How else would he continuously be employed and backstab various lords with an untrustworthy reputation? I don't mean we need to see him as a brilliant tactician, just stop screaming and boasting and chest puffing and I will be happy. A little brains is all I ask.

What values?! He is just a blatherer, just like Shu-Han.
Might.

He wants to be really goddamn strong.

And he is. As for Shu-Han, they're a lot more dubious. Zhuge Dan showed more benevolence in one cutscene than Liu Bei has done in the past few games.

Unfortunately, the game insinuates that might is not enough to unite the land, and thus Lü Bu fails.

I do agree with you that the historical Lü Bu was a bit smarter than the one in DW though.
Edited by Rance, Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:03 am.
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Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:26 am
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Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:28 pm
I cant stand the Debates and Discussion thread.

That one annoying opinionated person. Dont shove what YOU think in other people's throat.
Who might that be? :sly:
NAhah hunny it's not you haha.

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YOUR OPINION IS WRONG THEREFORE IM RIGHT!!!
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There. Dishes done, clothes washed, dried, folded and now picked up... not too shabby.
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Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:44 am
Great actress, terrible casting.

I frankly agree with Randy that live-action anime adaptations are a dumb idea to begin with, though.
They say live-action Tekken sucks. So many changes to begin with.
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NOOOOOOOOOoooooo~ Kate Beckinsale won't return for the 5th movie of Underworld.... ;A;

I don't know what my brain's correlation to checking about Underworld is after watching the Matrix o3o

The Matrix had a much better storyline. o3o;
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my mom and sister went to the hospital last night and apparently my mom though the male nurse was yummy
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Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:13 am
In Dynasty Warriors, I honestly feel like half of the kingdom of Shu-Han is more idiotic than Lü Bu is. Ma Chao is pretty much the dumbest character ever, even though he looks cool. At least Lü Bu does have certain values that he actually manifests instead of just blathering about.
It completely baffles and winds me up how two or three characters even have fans.... he's one of them.
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Not going to see GitS if they are just going to whitewash everyone, which I'm 110% sure they are. I can see it now. "Breaking news, Togusa to be played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt!!!! in new GitS live action movie"

Then there's that one(or maybe two) asian character(s) who is(are) going to get like 2 lines. Probably Aramaki, and they'll cast him terribly. Or a villain. Maybe both. idk. Just know this movie is going to be stinky garbage, and I'm not going to stand by it.
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Hopefully getting a new phone today

Any advice on a good one?
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