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| dancingswan | Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:44 pm Post #224651 |
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Never really been into Empires. CAW never really does anything for me since Koei's create-a-character is shallow. Empires is more of a game sold on gameplay, and DW gameplay doesn't really do it for me anymore. I'm more into the story, probably because of nostalgia though. |
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| Angelic Linca | Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:52 pm Post #224652 |
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Blue Sunshine of Wei
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DW4 had best CAW integration into story. |
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| dancingswan | Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:54 pm Post #224653 |
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That was the one with the CAW story right? And you could use Fuxi and Nuwa's weapons? I liked that one. |
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| Rance | Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:54 pm Post #224654 |
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Yuki Oh. No.
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I mostly like Koei's games for the story and setting as well, to be honest. Their gameplay is pretty shallow, let's face it. However, I do like the Empires CAW thing because for whatever reason I've always found it fun to create some goofy characters in games. I actually enjoyed crap like Drawn to Life for that reason, as well as various wrestling games that generally have expansive CAW (different w) systems. I dunno, I'm still kinda hyped about Empires but I do understand where you're coming from. Koei's selling point to me is mostly the characters and story rather than the gameplay. I kinda wish Koei would use their characters and general storytelling but for another genre like RPG or more strategy titles. |
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| dancingswan | Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:06 pm Post #224655 |
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I'd die for a Dynasty Warriors in a Suikoden-like game. It'd make total sense too with the huge cast. |
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| Lil'Richard | Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:12 pm Post #224656 |
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Eternally
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Empires does seem to be implementing some RPG-esque dynamics but they always seem to come short. I like Empires for the reason of forming the game your way, but I do think it could be a lot more interesting if they made it straight-up RPG, tactical or otherwise.
Edited by Lil'Richard, Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:15 pm.
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| Angelic Linca | Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:24 pm Post #224657 |
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Blue Sunshine of Wei
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You mean Destiny Mode? That was in DW5:XL. DW4 had Kingdom Modes but still allowed CAWs to be used instead if wanted to. I always liked playing through DW4 as a CAW with eight Edit Bodyguards. I do know you could use both of their weapons in each game. |
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| dancingswan | Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:36 pm Post #224658 |
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You're right. But you could use Fuxi and Nuwa's weapons right? I just remember really liking the Rapier moveset's musou because it was great for killing officers. @Lil' Richard - That's probably the thing hindering me from really getting into the Empires games. They add really shallow RPG elements, too shallow to actually make the game a true hybrid of RPG and Hack N' Slash. And they rip away the story elements so it's not like that's helping. |
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| Eni | Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:46 pm Post #224659 |
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BOOEH
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I should get a Sharpedo. |
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| Angelic Linca | Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:49 pm Post #224660 |
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Blue Sunshine of Wei
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Yep, I had a few CAWs that use Nuwa's rapier. One used Zhang Liao's and another used Zhao Yun's. @Eni: I have one.
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| Rance | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:08 am Post #224661 |
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Yuki Oh. No.
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Sounds great. I really liked Suikoden III. Ironically, if I remember correctly, I think the premise of Suikoden is based on Outlaws of the March, which was also written by Luo Guanzhong. |
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| dancingswan | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:13 am Post #224662 |
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I don't expect much from Koei lately though. They killed great series like Kessen and Dynasty Tactics and I can't forgive them for that. ![]() What is the worst new Mega? I haven't been playing ORAS that much. #Smash |
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| Katatonia | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:13 am Post #224663 |
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destroy.erase.improve
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Got myself lost in farmland Pennsylvania ![]() Luckily I have photographic memory and I know my way back to Philly. Still, scary stuff |
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| GambitCajun | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:14 am Post #224664 |
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The Child of the Moon, the Wolf Slaying Deer Warrior!
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Ehh...Outlaws of the Water Margin (or All Men Are Brothers as I prefer it) was written by Shi Nai'an. But there is a theory that Nai'an and Guanzhong are the same person. |
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| Rance | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:19 am Post #224665 |
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Yuki Oh. No.
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I thought it was written by Luo Guanzhong for some reason. The stories are kind of similar anyways with their large cast of characters and overall themes. |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:19 am Post #224666 |
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God of War
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They should add the other two Tokugawa guardians in SW4-II |
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| GambitCajun | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:22 am Post #224667 |
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The Child of the Moon, the Wolf Slaying Deer Warrior!
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An we already have half of the necessary weapons! |
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| Magna Lion | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:25 am Post #224668 |
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I love pizza.
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Can't wait to meet up with him again.
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| AstralTempest | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:36 am Post #224669 |
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Drops Of Jupiter
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I like the empires games because i can create some really cool stories of my own ^^ OMM: YAAWWWWWNNNNN! |
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| Ahsoka Tano | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:49 am Post #224670 |
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“I’m no Jedi.”
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Dw8-E is really rushed, please no one get too hyped for it because you'll probably be let down lol. |
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| dancingswan | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:54 am Post #224671 |
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The amount of framerate drops is ludicrous or that might just be me. |
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| Angelic Linca | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:57 am Post #224672 |
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I feel nervous about dialogue translation. |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:59 am Post #224673 |
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God of War
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I bet you i'll enjoy DW8E the same amount I enjoyed DW7E was it rushed or were features just left out? There is a difference. |
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| Ryō Genken | Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:59 am Post #224674 |
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Disciplined Mind
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!!!!!!!!! SWANNIE! You like Suikoden( Konami Rpg) Series!!+
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| Rance | Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:02 am Post #224675 |
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Yuki Oh. No.
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Suikoden IV sucked hard though. |
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