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Topic Started: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:16 am (5,973,974 Views)
LittleDragonZ
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I wonder if this defective thing has something to do with it too? There was that Peach with no legs on ebay and that Samus defect with double cannon. There was/is probably more.
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Angelic Linca
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Poison Types need more love.

Dumb screen for Poison Jab.
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Eni
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Poison type doesn't need love.

ICE TYPE DOES.
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Rance
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Vespiquen is really cool. Its stats and skills aren't bad but yeah, that typing holds it back so much. I feel similarly about Scyther.

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ICE TYPE DOES.


I definitely agree with this. Ice type is far and away the worst type in the game. It's also the worst type by a large margin. There is hardly any ice typing combination that is good outside of inverse battles.
Edited by Rance, Sun Dec 7, 2014 9:25 pm.
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Eni
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So glad you can get Adaptability Dragalge in ORAS.
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Angelic Linca
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Eni
Sun Dec 7, 2014 9:23 pm
Poison type doesn't need love.

ICE TYPE DOES.
Dewgong, Eni. May be Water/Ice, but Dewgong.
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Eni
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Emperor Yuan Shu
Sun Dec 7, 2014 9:24 pm
Vespiquen is really cool. Its stats and skills aren't bad but yeah, that typing holds it back so much. I feel similarly about Scyther.

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ICE TYPE DOES.


I definitely agree with this. Ice type is far and away the worst type in the game. It's also the worst type by a large margin. There is hardly any ice typing combination that is good outside of inverse battles.
I think the only legit considered solid for competitive battle is Mamoswine.

Ice type has so many cool pokes, too. So so sad.
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dancingswan
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Ice and Rock are honestly the worst types. Ice is SOOOO good offensively, but the fact that practically every Water type can learn Ice Beam, it makes them redundant on top of how god awful they are defensively.

Then Rock is just a mess.

Bug would be great if they played with typing more. Bug/Fairy would be grand.
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Eni
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Rock will always be **** since the only thing you'll ever need out of the Rock type are the sneaky pebbles.
And Terrakion.
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Angelic Linca
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Ice/Bug or Ice/Fairy or even Ice/Poison
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Rance
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Rock and Ice both have the same problems. They're both good offensively but utter crap defensively (at least as types). To add insult to injury, Gamefreak likes to give every fighting type a rock move and every water type an ice move. I absolutely hate that because it basically makes using actual rock or ice types disadvantageous. The benefit they get from STAB does not outweigh their innumerable weaknesses.

I think they should add an ice/bug type with an ability that inverts its resistances and weaknesses.

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And Terrakion


And Ttar but not because of its typing.
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dancingswan
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Ice/Bug is garbage as long as Stealth Rocks exists. The rest aren't terrible, but Ice needs some sort of balancing to boost its defenses. Like losing the rock weakness, or the fighting weakness. Ice's problem isn't a typing issue as they have some great typings with Froslass, Mamoswine, Jynx, etc. The problem is that their weaknesses are so prevalent and Water makes their offenses redundant.
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LittleDragonZ
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My bro has said go Sapphire for Lugia. At last.
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dancingswan
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Poison was a crap typing to have too until Fairy came along and that makes me sad.
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Katatonia
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destroy.erase.improve

Need fresh air, maybe it'll be good. I still feel like crap
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Poison had the opposite problem of ice and rock. It was a pretty alright type defensively (aside from ground weakness, which admittedly sucked) but was godawful offensively.

Now it's a really good type defensively and is slightly more viable on offense. I definitely appreciate Gen VI's poison buffs and dragon nerfs.
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Angelic Linca
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dancingswan
Sun Dec 7, 2014 9:31 pm
Ice/Bug is garbage as long as Stealth Rocks exists. The rest aren't terrible, but Ice needs some sort of balancing to boost its defenses. Like losing the rock weakness, or the fighting weakness. Ice's problem isn't a typing issue as they have some great typings with Froslass, Mamoswine, Jynx, etc. The problem is that their weaknesses are so prevalent and Water makes their offenses redundant.
Abomasnow comes to mind with bad typing involving Ice being Grass/Ice. Fire being super effective against both.
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Eni
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Dragon nerfs he said, as MegaSalamence came and Mega Rayquaza literally made a new tier for itself.
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It is a pretty bad combo since both typings are terrible defensively, especially with Abomasnow's anti-thesis Talonflame practically ruling the metagame. Pretty okay though offensively, but not really.
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Rance
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They nerfed the dragon type but they gave megas to salamence and rayquaza for arceus knows what reason. They obviously didn't really care about balance when they created both of them. My guess is that they made them as broke as possible deliberately for the delta episode.

The existence of fairy is still a welcome change to the series.
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Yeah, dragons are still ridiculous. So all the more reason to buff Ice types so they can wreck them.
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Rance
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Hell, make ice resist or be immune to dragons and that would already be a huge help. Dragons would still be good even with that change.
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Dragon resistance, lose rock weakness. Already 100x's better.
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Bug/Dragon, Steel/Poison or Fire/Fairy....Good combos id say :P
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Eni
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Bug/Dragon.

One of these days. ;_;
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